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Klaent
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden374 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4041
On April 03 2011 05:40 Pebbz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:40 lettle wrote:
I guess that's why you get colossus over HTs....


Yep, Colossus with double forge is so much better.

i think he chose HTs cuz he scouted reactor starport
"On a scale from 1 to Idra, how mad are you right now?" -ROOTDestiny
KotaOnCue
Profile Joined September 2010
United States180 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4042
Now we know, don't get HTs anymore because they are awful now haha. Not worth the investment because you can't even kill anything but marines with it. So sad to see the once powerful HT reduced to a LOLTemplar while the Terran just stims past the threat and melts with his marauders.

Well played by both but Grubby needs to let go of the Templar and realize that colossus is the only way now haha.
"They say ignorance is bliss. Is it true?"
blooblooblahblah
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4163 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4043
On April 03 2011 05:42 gnutz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2011 05:40 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:39 Risen wrote:
On April 03 2011 05:38 Funkatron wrote:
should have gone for colossi, not templar


This. 2base templar is very weak. Don't go HT until your third is already established and running on full


2base templar is just not playable without the amulet. Before, u could defend with warp-in storms but now it's impossible to defend without Colossi or a shit ton of units.

It actually wasn't really playable with amulett either. lol


lol it was playable but kinda risky. Opening colossi has always been safer.
Ganzi beat me without stim. Ostojiy beat me with a nydus. Siphonn beat me with probes. Revival beat my sentry-immortal all-in.
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4044
Aww, sucks that HuK has to go into the pvp group.
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4045
It was a bad build. +2/+3 attack ups are /really/ expensive and don't do a hell of a lot with only gateway units.

Add DT and HT tech to that, off two base???
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4046
On April 03 2011 05:42 Vaeila wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:41 MasterKush wrote:
DDE's macro is pretty terrible but otherwise he seem pretty good.


obvious troll is obvious? his macro is what won him the game.


The game was more Grubby's loss than DDE's win, Grubby's bad unit comp lost him the game


Give me a break, DDE had better production and had his third before Grubby and kept it up, while killing Grubby's off. DDE played great
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mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4047
On April 03 2011 05:42 starcraft2leverage wrote:
Two base high templar is pretty inneffectve if the terran makes zero vikings. Unfortunate read for Grubby. Only way 2 base high templar works is if the terran blind pumps out 10-20 vikings.


He was on 3 base when he went templar.

Somehow, his late game plan didn't include him losing his 3rd!
We talkin about PRACTICE
NoXious90
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom160 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4048
whats the map pool for mlg?
zyglrox
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1168 Posts
April 02 2011 20:43 GMT
#4049
got some food, stream is going well, matches are good. life be good.
champagne for my real friends, and real pain for my sham friends.
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4050
On April 03 2011 05:42 DonaldLee wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:39 Crying wrote:
Another example game that u die in the long run without colosi.
Templars are so bad.


Yeah, it's so weird that even with all the great storms Grubby had on that army, I found myself thinking, "Man, Templars are so useless now." They feel like DTs, now. If the first wave doesn't get you ahead, you lose.


wtf? Templars are useless if you don't have a ground army supporting them. Hey guess what 2base templar leaves you with (especially going for double upgrades)? No ground force to clean up those marauders which have more hp than storm does damage.

Two base templar has never been viable, and will never be viable.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
chonkyfire
Profile Joined December 2010
United States451 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-02 20:44:50
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4051
Grubby def should of just went for immortals or robo,

3-4, 3/3 immortals or 2 collossi would of wiped dde's army
Just when I thought that I saw I ghost, I realized that it was the endo smoke
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4052
On April 03 2011 05:40 Corvi wrote:
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On April 03 2011 05:38 Baby_Seal wrote:
I'm shocked that DDE was able to win that despite his massive upgrade disadvantage.


well those upgrades came at the cost of having a way smaller army and no 3rd.

Losing 3 warpgates also contributed to having a smaller army he was already pretty dead by that point thats why dde backed off and waited till he could go effing kill him.
petro[void]
Profile Joined April 2010
United States43 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4053
You've got to admire DJ Wheat and JP's endurance for creating reasonably interesting conversation on air without any awkwardness. Those guys are becoming consummate pros.
Negative, I am a meat popsicle.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4054
On April 03 2011 05:39 Logros wrote:
I think DDE got his 3rd a lot faster but I'm not sure.


Well, Protoss can't outexpand Terran. You have to take your expansions after Terran or you are very vulnerable. Grubby teched a bit fast though, he should have taken it a bit slower and get more Zealots and Stalkers out before getting both templer techs going off 3 full mining bases.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
provrorsbarn
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden766 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4055
Socke and HasuObs has the sickest pvp ive ever seen......even sicker then MC.....so i pick Socke in that group
Im just a zerg
JediGamer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States656 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4056
If you plan on eventually going HT's you upgrade armor. If collosus or immortals u can get either.
http://www.z33k.com/starcraft2/coach/sc2coaching Tastosis Approved Coaching
Hatorade
Profile Joined July 2010
299 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4057
Double forge with colossus follow up is so much stronger than the temp version on 2 base
sixfour
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
England11061 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4058
dde 6
grubby 12
metal
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4059
On April 03 2011 05:43 KotaOnCue wrote:
Now we know, don't get HTs anymore because they are awful now haha. Not worth the investment because you can't even kill anything but marines with it. So sad to see the once powerful HT reduced to a LOLTemplar while the Terran just stims past the threat and melts with his marauders.

Well played by both but Grubby needs to let go of the Templar and realize that colossus is the only way now haha.


Hahahahahaha templar r bad hahahahaha I don't know what I'm talking about hahahahaha.

Grubby needs to get better. Blame the player, not the game.

User was temp banned for this post.
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
April 02 2011 20:44 GMT
#4060
On April 03 2011 05:43 KotaOnCue wrote:
Now we know, don't get HTs anymore because they are awful now haha. Not worth the investment because you can't even kill anything but marines with it.


You're meant to have at least a few chargelots left to kill the 1HP mauraders left. Grubby had nothing; HTs aren't weak.
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