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haruk
216 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:19 Zane wrote: MKP's unit control is slightly better, but MVP is superior in every other aspect IMO. Yep. But he's young. Give him time yet. In a few years he'd be a monster. | ||
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HQuality
2682 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:42 exterminatus wrote: Dimaga, White-Ra +1 Huk,Moonglade,Jinro -1 huk and moonglade have already -5 at least then :D :D funny that people continuing to put them inda their World Team. soooooo overhyped really Kas, GoOdy instead of this two would be a huge difference *not trollin, srsly | ||
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ABOOMAN
Burma156 Posts
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cordlc
United States360 Posts
My personal top 8 Korean team: MC Alicia Losira July NesTea MVP (Ryung / MMA / MarineKing / Bomber), any two | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:46 cordlc wrote: Kind of off topic, but people keep bringing up how MVP would have lost his game against Ryung had he not been caught off-guard or the patch came out... It's important to keep in mind that MVP was aiming to get Battlecruisers the entire game, which is why he started air upgrades early, and why he was losing the ground war so badly. My personal top 8 Korean team: MC Alicia Losira July NesTea MVP (Ryung / MMA / MarineKing / Bomber), any two I do think people are underrating SuperNova here. He did almost beat LosirA, and he won the recent FXOpen. I'd probably have SuperNova as a strong contendor for the last spot as well. | ||
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Reasonable
Ukraine1432 Posts
The REAL championship will unveil itself tomorrow! WhiteRa and Dimaga better not get relaxed as stakes considerably rise and Koreans still have most of their aces under sleeves. | ||
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:39 zerious wrote: MVP had to cut a lot of tanks to get to BCs quicker, so it may have seem like Ryung was winning, but MVP planned had it planned out from the start. Ryung won most of the engagements irregardless of his bigger army (just better positioning and timings). From my perspective, Ryung outplayed Mvp even with a bigger army from Mvp cutting production. The BC's took it over the top, but I don't think Mvp would have won that game even if he wanted to go toe to toe with Ryung tank battles. Just pure speculation of course, but what Mvp showed against MMA I think points to a few weaknesses (mainly strategical). Either way, all three are about equal in skill I think. | ||
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:48 Reasonable wrote: So, everyone except for July managed to hide their primary strategies. That sucks for the world players so immensely that it cannot be overexaggerated The REAL championship will unveil itself tomorrow! WhiteRa and Dimaga better not get relaxed as stakes considerably rise and Koreans still have most of their aces under sleeves. A friend of mine pointed that out. He was like "Well, it looks like July is the sacrifice for Korea's honor. He's showing his actual important strategies before the main tournament to pull out wins." | ||
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HQuality
2682 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:48 HolyArrow wrote: I do think people are underrating SuperNova here. He did almost beat LosirA, and he won the recent FXOpen. I'd probably have SuperNova as a strong contendor for the last spot as well. all in oGs house incl even MC saying that SuperNova is one of the best terrans and players in Korea, sooo and his TvP is sooo good, really nice to terran has such a sick TvP | ||
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spacebarbarian
United States70 Posts
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HolyArrow
United States7116 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:50 spacebarbarian wrote: Whoa this is really interesting, the 3 of the 4 players that failed to get a single win on the all stars side have been playing in Korea full time (huk moonglade jinro). Do you think that the other foreigners were at an advantage because their play style was somewhat unknown to the Koreans ? That could definitely factor into what we saw today. I'm pretty sure MVP was pretty surprised by Dimaga's heavy infestor play, and MC surprised by WhiteRa's warp prism play. On the other hand, July seemed to know Huk and Jinro's playstyles pretty well, and exploited that knowledge beautifully. | ||
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xerurg
Ukraine56 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:45 HQuality wrote: funny that people continuing to put them inda their World Team. soooooo overhyped really Kas, GoOdy instead of this two would be a huge difference *not trollin, srsly agree 100% with you on that | ||
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dizzy101
Netherlands2066 Posts
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Qaatar
1409 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:39 flodeskum wrote: His playstyle isn't sustainable? He's played like this for years. And idra =/= many progamers. He's just one angry zerg that dislikes every style but his own BW and this game are two different beasts. In BW, July's mechanics provided the edge that he needed to overpower opponents with aggression (for crappier mechanics in July's predecessor, Yellow, we see the difference - same style, different results in an easier era). In this game, you can't overpower people with superior mechanics, and when strategy is all that's left, no it's not sustainable. I love July, don't get me wrong. I was arguing with some other dude who thought July plays like garbage the other day, and got temp banned for calling him a troll, and now, I'm doing the opposite. :D Tyler, Incontrol, and a few Koreans I've read on playxp have criticized him as well. It's not just Mr. Fields.  | ||
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rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:20 nihlon wrote: People have been saying the same thing ever since he started winning. Not sure how July can prove his doubters wrong really. Nothing much, he just has to turn into Idra, snailing it out into mega untouchable P or T balls. | ||
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SushilS
2115 Posts
Lovely torney. Thanks SOOOO much guys for participating. Also GOM is now officially my fav company in the whole world! | ||
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haylmfao
124 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:48 Reasonable wrote: So, everyone except for July managed to hide their primary strategies. That sucks for the world players so immensely that it cannot be overexaggerated The REAL championship will unveil itself tomorrow! WhiteRa and Dimaga better not get relaxed as stakes considerably rise and Koreans still have most of their aces under sleeves. I like how you named yourself "Reasonable". | ||
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red4ce
United States7313 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:46 cordlc wrote: Kind of off topic, but people keep bringing up how MVP would have lost his game against Ryung had he not been caught off-guard or the patch came out... It's important to keep in mind that MVP was aiming to get Battlecruisers the entire game, which is why he started air upgrades early, and why he was losing the ground war so badly. My personal top 8 Korean team: MC Alicia Losira July NesTea MVP (Ryung / MMA / MarineKing / Bomber), any two No MKP for sure. With larger maps and the new patch his signature style is officially outdated. In the current mappool and metagame he's definitely a step below the other elite terrans. I'd leave out Ryung also simply because he's relatively more untested in non TvT's compared to the other 2. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On March 29 2011 22:49 HolyArrow wrote: A friend of mine pointed that out. He was like "Well, it looks like July is the sacrifice for Korea's honor. He's showing his actual important strategies before the main tournament to pull out wins." He's July, though. He's had the same style for years and people haven't figured it out yet. Or people have figured it out but still lose to it. | ||
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