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HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
March 12 2011 07:42 GMT
#1801
On March 12 2011 16:37 Mailing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 16:31 tdt wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:28 red4ce wrote:
Lol all these people complaining about July playing 'cheesy' and not playing zerg 'the right way.' You play to win the game. July is now guaranteed $17,000 richer because he plays to his strengths and didn't care that all the other zergs are stubbornly sticking to passive macro.

People are lame. That's the way the swarm is supposed to be played. just wait and watch people copy July from now on.


Do you really want this to happen?

Zergs were the main race that forced macro games before.

If we all just stopped at 2-3 base roach builds, protoss/terran would never need to pass 2 base builds to counter it.......

It will make the game much more 1 dimensional.


Im not with you on this. Aggressivity will have Terrans and protoss on their toes, and its gonna give more options to us ZErgs. We can let some pros dictate to us that Zerg is to be played defensively.
All of the races can be played to different style, there is no optimal way to play any of them. We should Celebrate July for having the Zerg contemplate new builds for aggression. It was of primordial importance that a player find a way or we`d have zergs getting abused all the time.
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
raga4ka
Profile Joined February 2008
Bulgaria5679 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 07:53:15
March 12 2011 07:45 GMT
#1802
On March 12 2011 16:40 Goibon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 16:38 reprise wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:35 Goibon wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:35 raga4ka wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:32 Louuster wrote:
[image loading]

Fear the SauronZerg!

Unfortunately, as much as I like july, I dont see him beating MC anytime soon


Problem in SC2 is with Hydra and Roach being 2 supply you can't Sauron , because you need at least 70 supply worth of drones to macro up like that .

SauronZerg?

Could someone give me a history lesson please?




Description has everything you need to know.

Ooh thanks!

Gonna watch this now.

I presume the gif is from this match?




Watch this . It's a much more impressive showing and has good english commentary . If you have time i recommend watching the whole OSL finals . It could be a preview of what we are about to see in the GSL finals .
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4128 Posts
March 12 2011 07:46 GMT
#1803
July 4-0 MC calling it here now. He'll rape MC like he raped best
Kantutan
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1319 Posts
March 12 2011 07:49 GMT
#1804
As I predicted, absolutely no contest. MC will now defeat July to be the first dual champion. San and Anypro never stood a chance against these beasts.
Namu
Profile Joined February 2011
United States826 Posts
March 12 2011 07:58 GMT
#1805
Are people really whining about how July played?
He played great. The whiners are obviously not looking into the mind games involved in a series, which is a HUGE deal. I hope he can play as great as he did today vs MC, although MC will be a much tougher opponent than anypro.
smileyyy
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany1816 Posts
March 12 2011 08:00 GMT
#1806
JULYZERG HWAITING !!!
Fruitseller: I feel like it's a good strategy[6Pool]. I had a lot of strategies, but I thought about it a lot and decided to 6 pool. Other people told me to 6 pool too
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
March 12 2011 08:02 GMT
#1807
mc vs july come on MC!!!!
Live and Let Die!
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 12 2011 08:02 GMT
#1808
On March 12 2011 16:45 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 16:40 Goibon wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:38 reprise wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:35 Goibon wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:35 raga4ka wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:32 Louuster wrote:
[image loading]

Fear the SauronZerg!

Unfortunately, as much as I like july, I dont see him beating MC anytime soon


Problem in SC2 is with Hydra and Roach being 2 supply you can't Sauron , because you need at least 70 supply worth of drones to macro up like that .

SauronZerg?

Could someone give me a history lesson please?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gcBqcstXV8

Description has everything you need to know.

Ooh thanks!

Gonna watch this now.

I presume the gif is from this match?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKFthNcxTZ8

Watch this . It's a much more impressive showing and has good english commentary . If you have time i recommend watching the whole OSL finals . It could be a preview of what we are about to see in the GSL finals .


Will do!

Still funny for me watching SC1 not really knowing how any of the 'new' brood war units work.
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
Goibon
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand8185 Posts
March 12 2011 08:05 GMT
#1809
I just did my Liquibet and obviously i picked + Show Spoiler +
July
.

Can't wait LOL!
Leenock =^_^= Ryung =^_^= Parting =^_^= herO =^_^= Guilty
westhebest
Profile Joined December 2010
United States6 Posts
March 12 2011 08:06 GMT
#1810
On March 12 2011 16:25 Rayansaki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 16:20 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:14 ffadicted wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:11 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:10 ffadicted wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:09 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:08 ffadicted wrote:
lol July is gonna get torn apart by MC man, he's such a cheese player and relies so much on luck

MC 4 - 1 or 4 - 0


Lmao yeah cuz a zergling run-by is cheese.


Keep drinking the cool-aid man, he was gonna bane bust and lose, the ling run-by = luck


Obviously that's why he's made it to the semi-finals and will most likely make it to the finals. Hater gonna hate.


All his matchups were a joke pretty much, and he cheesed MVP out. He was massacred in the only legit game he played, against MC. The Nada games showed that basically July can't do late game, and he only won cuz Nada made so many silly mistakes.

4 - X MC, where X is the number of games July manages to successfully cheese MC


Is this a joke? July sure did play aggressively against NaDa but did that not pay off? Also game 5 vs NaDa was actually quite standard and he won that quite handily. Also he showed his macro today by completely overwhelming Anypro even after getting harassed heavily by phoenixes.

Not saying July will definitely beat MC but your hating is getting ridiculous.



Nada could've won that game 5, way earlier when he pushed through the secret tunnel if he wasn't so terrible at sieging his tanks in a timely fashion. In fact the siege fail was a constant through all the games. July didn't win because of his impressive macro, he won because of nada's impressive miscontrol.

I agree with everything ffadicted said



I think it seems like Nada miscontrolled his siege tanks quite a bit by forgetting to siege in time. Rather July plays a style that has more units than most zergs so that he can deny favorable positioning for his opponent. Like IdrA for instance, he would usually drone heavily and start producing units massively when the push comes. He would give up positioning in exchange for delaying the push as much as possible, picking off reinforcements and waiting for additional production cycles before attacking into the sieged position.

July's aggressive style has a lot more units so that when the Terran pushes, he can force engagements earlier than a Terran wants. You can't honestly expect Nada to start leapfrog sieging all the way at the start of the secret tunnel (or Tasteless secret hallway). Nada, however, no doubt did make some mistakes as I feel a scan ahead would have allowed him to siege in time and eliminate the need for a very slow leapfrog pushing.
Scorch
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Austria3371 Posts
March 12 2011 08:09 GMT
#1811
What, it's over already? Why do the semifinals take place earlier than normal?
Did I miss much? July's games seem to be recommended a lot, but that could be fanboyism.
iGX
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia414 Posts
March 12 2011 08:09 GMT
#1812
love both july and MC but definitely rooting for a protoss + 2x champion, MC!!

protoss fighting!!
When your bases are ashes...then you have my permission to "GG".
tek_ger
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany140 Posts
March 12 2011 08:10 GMT
#1813
are both games over yet?

vod for ogsmc and san zenith are up, but whats with the second game?
Zinbiel
Profile Joined October 2008
Sweden878 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-12 08:12:54
March 12 2011 08:10 GMT
#1814
It's pretty funny reading about people saying that July is getting lucky/his opponent makes mistakes and he is no good.

Why does every single player facing july this far in this GSL do these mistakes? For the same reason he won a golden mouse in broodwar defeating an at the time playing-out-of-his-mind Best 3-0 while everyone was thinking July was a has-been.

July is calling your every bluff, he is constantly changing the game asking you to handle new situations you're not really used to. Playing against July, you get thrown out of your comfort zone, no matter if your style is aggressive or passive. This makes people do mistakes no matter if their name is MC, MVP or xxloRdofUndeadxX.

Edit: It's alot like playing the player rather than the game that can be present in for example chess too. Why would I try to make the objectively best move if I can just play the move you least of all want to see?
Backho fan since 080416. Favourite terran: Mind. Favourite Zerg: Jaedong.
Ayush_SCtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
India3050 Posts
March 12 2011 08:11 GMT
#1815
Aww, at 6:10 in the morning. fml
Anyways, sad to see San go
July won so no PvP :D
With that being said, go JulyZerg!
First time I want a P to lose lol
End my suffering
Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
March 12 2011 08:12 GMT
#1816
ZvP will be tough for July, i don't know if he can beat the best protoss in the game, but if any zerg can do it its JulyZerg. Can't believe some of the hate he has gotten. The guy has done this GSL I think 2 blind allins, 1 of the MVP games and the 6 pool, all the rest of his aggression has been reactionary to his opponents mistakes. July has shown harassment, long reactionary macro, aggressive style macro, etc. He has done it all. He can baneling bust you or he can max supply and roll you or he can endlessly attack you until you break, impossible to know what the guy is going to throw at you because he can do it all. Only really serious weakness I have seen is vs a meching terran and his creep spread isn't very good.
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
March 12 2011 08:14 GMT
#1817
July picks MC to get his revenge in groups but ends up getting the match in the finals, kind of bitter sweat
vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
March 12 2011 08:18 GMT
#1818
On March 12 2011 16:45 raga4ka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2011 16:40 Goibon wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:38 reprise wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:35 Goibon wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:35 raga4ka wrote:
On March 12 2011 16:32 Louuster wrote:
[image loading]

Fear the SauronZerg!

Unfortunately, as much as I like july, I dont see him beating MC anytime soon


Problem in SC2 is with Hydra and Roach being 2 supply you can't Sauron , because you need at least 70 supply worth of drones to macro up like that .

SauronZerg?

Could someone give me a history lesson please?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gcBqcstXV8

Description has everything you need to know.

Ooh thanks!

Gonna watch this now.

I presume the gif is from this match?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKFthNcxTZ8

Watch this . It's a much more impressive showing and has good english commentary . If you have time i recommend watching the whole OSL finals . It could be a preview of what we are about to see in the GSL finals .


ahh good ol' Klazart. Miss that guy. I wish he could return to commentating again haha
Aka XephyR/Shaneyesss
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
March 12 2011 08:20 GMT
#1819
Without a doubt July is the underdog, but I am 100% confident that he will win.
usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
March 12 2011 08:26 GMT
#1820
I knew it was probably a long shot but I still hoped for the best for SanZenith. I have never been a fan of MC (both in-game and outside the game) San still left me the most beautiful/strongest memory since FD's GSL 1 run, and I will not forget his games.
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