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Coolwhip
Profile Joined March 2011
927 Posts
April 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#3161
On April 24 2011 02:37 kapistar wrote:
Why Grubby didn't end this game with his first push when he killed 20 SCVs? Can someone tell me?


I was thinking that too.
n00b3rt
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria890 Posts
April 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#3162
Kas has this perfect macro that players will have in a year. But when they catch up to him he'll still be amongst the top players, because his decision making and micro are also brilliant
Yeah, whatever
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
April 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#3163
On April 24 2011 02:35 Benjef wrote:
Kas is sooo goood and this is fun to watch unlike when MC FFs everything and rolls his opponent.


I don't really see how it can be better to see a bioball rolls over a toss, than MC placing any forfefield in perfect position and rolls over morrow.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3164
Yeah Grubby was just behind after the 4 gate since he had 32 SCVs to Grubby's 28 probes. Which is a HUGE advantage for the terran. To be ahead after a 4 gate you need to get terran down to 15-20 SCV
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RedDragon571
Profile Joined March 2011
United States633 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3165
Well, MC can sit and watch Kas's P v T, big advantage imo...
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3166
On April 24 2011 02:37 mdma-_- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:36 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:35 gentile wrote:
outclassed..totally outclassed, gogo kas `!

Microwise and strategy wise kas got outplayed, period, but sc2 is all about macro and grubby's macro is not nearly as good as the top players.

Grubbys macro looked completly fine vs tlo.

TLO is losing a lot once the games get past the 10 minute mark, I wonder why.
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3167
Yeah Grubby is being outclassed right now, but just imagine how good he's going to become in the future. He's only been playing the game for a few months and he's in the semi-finals already here!
Lennon
Profile Joined February 2010
United Kingdom2275 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3168
On April 24 2011 02:37 Yaotzin wrote:
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On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck.


At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly.

Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro.

Nada was getting supply blocked and stuff. Kas does have really good macro, but let's not compare it to that and a WC3 player who clearly needs to work on his macro..


Kas was a WC3 player.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3169
On April 24 2011 02:39 ffdestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:37 Lann555 wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck.


At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly.

Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro.


Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure


I don't think so--Kas isn't ready for MC, although he has solid mechanics, so does IdrA or Jinro and they both lost to MC. I'd give it 30%.


I think Kas is a much better player than Jinro and Idra -- Naniwa considers him the best player in Europe by far -- but that's just me I guess..
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3170
On April 24 2011 02:39 Coolwhip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:37 kapistar wrote:
Why Grubby didn't end this game with his first push when he killed 20 SCVs? Can someone tell me?


I was thinking that too.


Because grubby had to cut probes to do that push.
He killed almost no army of Kas.

Kas had double orbital pumping out SCVS and mules.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3171
On April 24 2011 02:39 Coolwhip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:37 kapistar wrote:
Why Grubby didn't end this game with his first push when he killed 20 SCVs? Can someone tell me?


I was thinking that too.

Kas was actually even on supply (at most he dropped below 5 of Grubby) during that entire attack, he had enough marines that it wouldn't be cost efficient for Grubby (who probably thought he did enough damage).
the farm ends here
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3172
On April 24 2011 02:38 Azarkon wrote:
My guess is that MC will punish Kas for his macro opening. Grubby could've done a lot more damage than he did with his run in. MC is usually a lot better at these sorts of early pressure.

exactly, ppl think MC was cheesy with 4 gates or 6 gates but this guy won't let you have a chance to turtle up easily.
Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3173
On April 24 2011 02:39 ffdestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:37 Lann555 wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck.


At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly.

Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro.


Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure


I don't think so--Kas isn't ready for MC, although he has solid mechanics, so does IdrA or Jinro and they both lost to MC. I'd give it 30%.


I don't think Kas will win either, but he might take a map and put up a good fight in the games he loses. Unless MC decides to 4-gate or 3gate-void or something as Kas is vulnerable to things like that
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omegan
Profile Joined April 2011
76 Posts
April 23 2011 17:40 GMT
#3174
On April 24 2011 01:41 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 01:40 Dante08 wrote:
Although Morrow lost, was anyone impressed with his macro? Especially in game 2 I felt he macroed so well, just that the strategy he chose was wrong.

Well he used to play bw so it isn't too surprising.

According to tyler everything morrow did was bad, he knows, right?


haha, tyler probably has best 3 prediction in the world.
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
April 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#3175
On April 24 2011 02:38 Azarkon wrote:
My guess is that MC will punish Kas for his macro opening. Grubby could've done a lot more damage than he did with his run in. MC is usually a lot better at these sorts of early pressure.

Na, mc would just attack his bunkers and either win or fail, grubby played alot more gracefully there.
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HappyZerGling
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Ukraine161 Posts
April 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#3176
Yeah, MC giving advice to Grubby :D
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MechKing
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States3004 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-23 17:42:16
April 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#3177
Kas, you beast!!!!!!!!! What's the current score?!?! oh ok, 2-0. :D Kas vs MC possible?
OnlineHero
Profile Joined February 2011
Denmark647 Posts
April 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#3178
On April 24 2011 02:40 Skillz_Man wrote:
Yeah Grubby was just behind after the 4 gate since he had 32 SCVs to Grubby's 28 probes. Which is a HUGE advantage for the terran. To be ahead after a 4 gate you need to get terran down to 15-20 SCV


The amazing part is that he had that SCV advantage AFTER losing like 19 SCVs to the 4 gate.
<3
MattRz
Profile Joined April 2011
Chile1680 Posts
April 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#3179
Cmon Grubby show us what MC just told you
Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake ♞
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
April 23 2011 17:41 GMT
#3180
Well i also remember how we were bashing nada for playing bad, but if it always happen against Kas. Isn't it possible he forces that?
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