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On April 24 2011 02:42 ffdestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:40 s4life wrote:On April 24 2011 02:39 ffdestiny wrote:On April 24 2011 02:37 Lann555 wrote:On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck. At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly. Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro. Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure I don't think so--Kas isn't ready for MC, although he has solid mechanics, so does IdrA or Jinro and they both lost to MC. I'd give it 30%. I think Kas is a much better player than Jinro and Idra -- Naniwa considers him the best player in Europe by far -- but that's just me I guess.. Both Naniwa and Kas are similar--young, sort of newcomers to being showcased in tournaments, but Idra and Jinro are aged vets who have played/play in Korea--you can't beat that kind of experience. Idra also has better macro than Kas.
Both Naniwa and Kas are former WC 3 pros. I don't think they're really newcomers to RTS games.
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Mmm Kas playing smart. Expecting Grubby to go fast expo because he did it as well in the previous games but he's going on the aggression now.
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On April 24 2011 02:42 ffdestiny wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:40 s4life wrote:On April 24 2011 02:39 ffdestiny wrote:On April 24 2011 02:37 Lann555 wrote:On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck. At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly. Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro. Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure I don't think so--Kas isn't ready for MC, although he has solid mechanics, so does IdrA or Jinro and they both lost to MC. I'd give it 30%. I think Kas is a much better player than Jinro and Idra -- Naniwa considers him the best player in Europe by far -- but that's just me I guess.. Both Naniwa and Kas are similar--young, sort of newcomers to being showcased in tournaments, but Idra and Jinro are aged vets who have played/play in Korea--you can't beat that kind of experience. Idra also has better macro than Kas.
At the moment I would both favor Kas in a Bo5 vs jinro as I would favor Naniwa in a Bo5 vs Idra.
They aren't newcomers they've been playing Sc2 since start of beta and both already have lots of achievements.
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grubbster getting bo countered :<
doubt he'll keep that expo
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On April 24 2011 02:43 s4life wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:42 Milvus wrote:On April 24 2011 02:40 RedDragon571 wrote:
Well, MC can sit and watch Kas's P v T, big advantage imo... THIS I don't see any advantage really.. Kas plays pretty solid, risk-averse, standard game. MC can still cheese his way through the series thanks to maps and stuff, but he will have to win a macro game against Kas... and I really don't see that happening, unless Kas gets nervous.
I want to see a standard game between Kas and MC. It'll be amazing.
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On April 24 2011 02:44 Aristodemus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:42 ffdestiny wrote:On April 24 2011 02:40 s4life wrote:On April 24 2011 02:39 ffdestiny wrote:On April 24 2011 02:37 Lann555 wrote:On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck. At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly. Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro. Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure I don't think so--Kas isn't ready for MC, although he has solid mechanics, so does IdrA or Jinro and they both lost to MC. I'd give it 30%. I think Kas is a much better player than Jinro and Idra -- Naniwa considers him the best player in Europe by far -- but that's just me I guess.. Both Naniwa and Kas are similar--young, sort of newcomers to being showcased in tournaments, but Idra and Jinro are aged vets who have played/play in Korea--you can't beat that kind of experience. Idra also has better macro than Kas. No way, id love to see them play. Idra is vastly over-rated whereas Kas is vastly under-rated (well on your side of the pond anyway).
Kas, underrated?
I can't imagine Europeans talking any MORE about him.
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yeah Nexus cancel is the wrong decision here. Just pull probes and fight it off.
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On April 24 2011 02:40 Lennon wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:37 Yaotzin wrote:On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck. At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly. Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro. Nada was getting supply blocked and stuff. Kas does have really good macro, but let's not compare it to that and a WC3 player who clearly needs to work on his macro.. Kas was a WC3 player.
I should've said recently a WC3 player. I don't think they're inherently bad macroers or anything, but obviously WC3 is a much lower econ game so they aren't used to it. Grubby clearly still isn't, Kas has far more games under his belt and is.
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I desperately want Grubby to win, but at the same time I really want to see how the best in the EU (Kas/Naniwa) fair up against MC. 
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On April 24 2011 02:41 StUfF wrote:
Xel Naga Caverns
Grubby vs Kas Game 3 (0-2)
Grubby spawns south as Blue Toss.
Kas spawns north as Red Terran.
5:00
Grubby goes early Nexus into 3gate/robo.
Kas goes early two rax into CC
Kas pushes out with MM army.
Grubby cancels Nexus.
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Omg that MaNa is retarded. Seriously, the worst commentator ever why dont they just kick him out
User was warned for this post
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Khaldor with the Tillerman reference!
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On April 24 2011 02:47 OGCRape wrote:
Omg that MaNa is retarded. Seriously, the worst commentator ever why dont they just kick him out
Do you want Fuzer back?
Mana is doing a great job imho :
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On April 24 2011 02:46 StUfF wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:41 StUfF wrote:
Xel Naga Caverns
Grubby vs Kas Game 3 (0-2)
Grubby spawns south as Blue Toss.
Kas spawns north as Red Terran. 5:00 Grubby goes early Nexus into 3gate/robo. Kas goes early two rax into CC Kas pushes out with MM army. Grubby cancels Nexus.
8:00
Grubby builds up army destroys the Bunker at his nat and rebuilds nexus.
Kas is landing his expansion CC. Is up to 4 rax.
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Grubby has to chorno probes out constantly now.
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On April 24 2011 02:47 OGCRape wrote:
Omg that MaNa is retarded. Seriously, the worst commentator ever why dont they just kick him out
Get banned, seriously.
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On April 24 2011 02:45 Mailing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2011 02:44 Aristodemus wrote:On April 24 2011 02:42 ffdestiny wrote:On April 24 2011 02:40 s4life wrote:On April 24 2011 02:39 ffdestiny wrote:On April 24 2011 02:37 Lann555 wrote:On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck. At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly. Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro. Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure I don't think so--Kas isn't ready for MC, although he has solid mechanics, so does IdrA or Jinro and they both lost to MC. I'd give it 30%. I think Kas is a much better player than Jinro and Idra -- Naniwa considers him the best player in Europe by far -- but that's just me I guess.. Both Naniwa and Kas are similar--young, sort of newcomers to being showcased in tournaments, but Idra and Jinro are aged vets who have played/play in Korea--you can't beat that kind of experience. Idra also has better macro than Kas. No way, id love to see them play. Idra is vastly over-rated whereas Kas is vastly under-rated (well on your side of the pond anyway). Kas, underrated? I can't imagine Europeans talking any MORE about him.
I was going to post something similar. If anything he's starting to be overhyped. I've seen posters claim he could win GSL code s at his current skill level. I mean, he's very good but come on...
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EPT
