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Lann555
Profile Joined February 2010
Netherlands5173 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3141
On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck.


At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly.

Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro.


Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure
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Feridan
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark33 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3142
Damn, MC vs Kas will give TSL a run for its money!
AimForTheBushes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1760 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3143
probes n pylons, Grubby!!!! >:O
hitman133
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1425 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3144
Grubby should have started his nexus way earlier and back to probes, get robot bay faster than that. Just bad macro...
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3145
gg Kas, but those 2 dropshipcrews will await you in hell xD
TYJ.Aoy
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil1265 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3146
On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck.


At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly.

Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro.

Nah, NaDa supply blocked himself multiple times in every single game in that series, his play was very far from his optimal.
Jman5
Profile Joined September 2010
United States745 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3147
Part of the food disparity has to do with unit composition. Kas had a much heavier focus on tier 1 barracks units while Grubby was more focused on tech. This means that even if their macro is identical Kas will have a higher food count.
sinii
Profile Joined August 2010
England989 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3148
Grubby's macro isn't normally bad, he just majorly slipped on building propes, Grubby will learn and move on.
kapistar
Profile Joined February 2011
Poland17 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3149
Why Grubby didn't end this game with his first push when he killed 20 SCVs? Can someone tell me?
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
April 23 2011 17:37 GMT
#3150
On April 24 2011 02:36 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
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On April 24 2011 02:35 gentile wrote:
outclassed..totally outclassed, gogo kas `!

Microwise and strategy wise kas got outplayed, period, but sc2 is all about macro and grubby's macro is not nearly as good as the top players.

Grubbys macro looked completly fine vs tlo.
Mailing
Profile Joined March 2011
United States3087 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3151
On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck.


At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly.

Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro.


I didn't say Kas was bad, but Grubby should not be 110 supply when Kas hits 170, even zerg shouldn't be THAT far ahead in supply.
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AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3152
I remember an interview with Kas where he said his macro was kind of bad because he didn't play brood war. It looks insane right now, in all games i've seen him recently
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3153
On April 24 2011 02:36 TYJ.Aoy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:35 gentile wrote:
outclassed..totally outclassed, gogo kas `!

Microwise and strategy wise kas got outplayed, period, but sc2 is all about macro and grubby's macro is not nearly as good as the top players.

no

im saying this as a protoss.

amazing spread of the units by kas.

he failed a little at the beginning, but i think this was his nervousity.
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3154
Grubby played fine, i don't think his macro was lacking. His 4gate didn't do enough damage and thus he was behind macrowise. Yes he killed a lot of SCV, but Kas had his expansion running already and was always ahead after that point.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3155
Will there be a 3rd/4th place decision match after this (for Morrow and probably Grubby?)
the farm ends here
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3156
Grubby needs a short break.
Grubby rushes to MC.
????
Grubby comes back 3-2.

Would be hilarious :D
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Blix
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands873 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3157
During the first attack where grubby bypassed the bunker by killing the rocks.. kas build a supply depot at the natural of grubby; i think that move might have won him the game
Conquer yourself not the world. - Descartes
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
April 23 2011 17:38 GMT
#3158
My guess is that MC will punish Kas for his macro opening. Grubby could've done a lot more damage than he did with his run in. MC is usually a lot better at these sorts of early pressure.
ffdestiny
Profile Joined September 2010
United States773 Posts
April 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#3159
On April 24 2011 02:37 Lann555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 24 2011 02:36 manicshock wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:34 Mailing wrote:
On April 24 2011 02:33 DamnCats wrote:
Lose 2 completely full medivacs while doing zero damage, still up 40 supply. Kas macro = beastly as fuck.


At top level, macro level should not be this far apart, its' grubby that is macroing poorly as opposed to kas macroing amazingly.

Maybe you didn't see Kas vs Nada? Kas basically beasted through with macro, and Nada is known for his macro. Kas has really amazing macro.


Definitely the best macro Terran in Europe. Him vs MC will give alot more insight into how good Kas has actually become. I think he might give MC a run for his money...although not sure Kas can handle the insane MC pressure


I don't think so--Kas isn't ready for MC, although he has solid mechanics, so does IdrA or Jinro and they both lost to MC. I'd give it 30%.
Vorlik
Profile Joined October 2010
1522 Posts
April 23 2011 17:39 GMT
#3160
I can't believe kas is not in the nasl ><
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