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[GOM] 2011 GSL World Championship - Page 7

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FXOpen
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia1844 Posts
March 08 2011 17:18 GMT
#121
Idra is playing at MLG.. Why is this question still being asked?
www.twitter.com/FXOpenESports
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
March 08 2011 17:19 GMT
#122
On March 09 2011 01:22 nam nam wrote:
Without the NASL (and such events) the gap would grow even wider. You don't narrow the gap without investing anything. If the NASL is a success it will probably mean more sponsors, bigger interest and more dedicated players. If we ever want to have a chance to compete with the Korean scene now is the time to do it but we can't expect it to happen over night.


I completely agree. All I'm saying is that you need players that can compete on a truly 'global' level when it comes to making starcraft 2 a succesful e-sport, and that that's partially 'our' (the viewers) fault. The GSL has proven that there is a (small) audience for paid SC2 events, but it's going to be the viewers that make or break the NASL.

I was just commenting on trying to set up a new sports division in an age where the audience is wired in and geographical location doesn't play a role anymore.
bearhug
Profile Joined September 2010
United States999 Posts
March 08 2011 17:34 GMT
#123
On March 09 2011 02:07 ptbl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 01:56 Saiwa wrote:
"Replays will be broadcasted instead of live broadcasts."
Where are the Haters ?

THIS IS DESTROYING E-SPORT !!!
Oh no, its not.


Only the qualifiers will be casted from replays. The actual tournament will be live in Korea.


Great. Thanks
We are dusts in the vast cosmic arena. Need to make the most out of life when we still have it.
Kinky
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States4126 Posts
March 08 2011 17:57 GMT
#124
I like how the whole basis of this tournament is "Korea vs. The World".Sounds interesting
warcralft
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore609 Posts
March 08 2011 18:01 GMT
#125
Revenant and Oxygen GOGOGO. SG FIGHTING!
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 08 2011 18:01 GMT
#126
Hmmm if jinro and huk skip mlg dallas won't they lose their mlg seeding and that seems pretty important with the new mlg format? Too bad GOM couldn't have scheduled this like april 5th or so to avoid the MLG conflict. Hoping huk makes it!!

And I wonder how the qualifiers will be. I hope it's a group stage bo 3 format instead of a mini elimination tourney as that would be the most fair. Though seeing as how there's 7 players from EU and Asia in qualifiers, you can't even do a tourney with an odd number without someone getting a bye, so gives me hope of a group stage format! Huk is going to 3-0 his group!
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
Nifel
Profile Joined June 2010
706 Posts
March 08 2011 18:05 GMT
#127
This'll be an awesome show. But to be quite honest, it wouldn't surprise me the slightest if the Korean team 8-0'd this. And while the foreigners are amazingly good and way above what I'll ever be able to comprehend, the chances of any of them taking a single game vs a Korean player are slim at best.

Hope this'll be a yearly event. :D
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
March 08 2011 18:06 GMT
#128
I think like in the tsl the koreans going to crush everyone. Maybe huk/jinro have a chance to advance a little bit but they are the only ones. This tournament just will clarify the gap betweens koreans and the rest of the world.
As a european/american player i would prefer to play mlg with actual chances to win something.
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-08 18:14:34
March 08 2011 18:10 GMT
#129
On March 09 2011 02:19 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 01:22 nam nam wrote:
Without the NASL (and such events) the gap would grow even wider. You don't narrow the gap without investing anything. If the NASL is a success it will probably mean more sponsors, bigger interest and more dedicated players. If we ever want to have a chance to compete with the Korean scene now is the time to do it but we can't expect it to happen over night.


I completely agree. All I'm saying is that you need players that can compete on a truly 'global' level when it comes to making starcraft 2 a succesful e-sport, and that that's partially 'our' (the viewers) fault. The GSL has proven that there is a (small) audience for paid SC2 events, but it's going to be the viewers that make or break the NASL.

I was just commenting on trying to set up a new sports division in an age where the audience is wired in and geographical location doesn't play a role anymore.


Culture plays a huge role in this. It's not just the team houses or training facilities or anything else. If anything, I think Sweden, with its deep rooted gamer culture, has the biggest chance of replicating S.K.'s success. I don't have any hopes for NA, even with its huge population and financial resources, given the current state of society here. Not a positive or negative value judgment, just different priorities, cultural values and attitudes of the general public. Same thing with China. Look at its HUGE population, and the overwhelming amount of gamers there. Unfortunately, the culture dictates everything, and "pro-gaming" is frowned upon there, even more so than NA. I don't want to be such a pessimist, but unless some paradigm shift happens in cultural values, shit isn't going to change.

Look at WC3. S.K. was still relatively dominant, winning or placing in the top 3 of most championships. Yet, WC3 was held to a distant secondary status to BW in S.K. If the full force of that nation goes behind SC2, I don't even want to think about what would happen...
CursedFeanor
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada539 Posts
March 08 2011 18:13 GMT
#130
On March 09 2011 03:05 Nifel wrote:
This'll be an awesome show. But to be quite honest, it wouldn't surprise me the slightest if the Korean team 8-0'd this. And while the foreigners are amazingly good and way above what I'll ever be able to comprehend, the chances of any of them taking a single game vs a Korean player are slim at best.

Hope this'll be a yearly event. :D


Yeah I suppose that's how Jinro got so far in 3 GSL code S... He probably didnt get a single game vs koreans right?

I really wish the foreigners win this to hopefully put an end to such comments!
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
March 08 2011 18:24 GMT
#131
On March 09 2011 03:13 CursedFeanor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 03:05 Nifel wrote:
This'll be an awesome show. But to be quite honest, it wouldn't surprise me the slightest if the Korean team 8-0'd this. And while the foreigners are amazingly good and way above what I'll ever be able to comprehend, the chances of any of them taking a single game vs a Korean player are slim at best.

Hope this'll be a yearly event. :D


Yeah I suppose that's how Jinro got so far in 3 GSL code S... He probably didnt get a single game vs koreans right?

I really wish the foreigners win this to hopefully put an end to such comments!


I think he's talking about foreigners who haven't trained for half a year in Korea. But yeah, even then, SC2 is a volatile enough game that anyone within the same ballpark of skill can take games off of one another. That says more about the state of the game than anything else, but that's a different story.
JesusOurSaviour
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United Arab Emirates1141 Posts
March 08 2011 18:28 GMT
#132
Anyone think GOM is trying to prove the ultimate "Eliteness" of the regular GSL, by putting up players from all servers whom people recognise as top of their servers, against GSL's best players...

and when GSL players smash through, people will be shocked.... and realise that in fact, there is no more argument as to whether GSL is the premier competition or not
Zlasher
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States9129 Posts
March 08 2011 18:28 GMT
#133
Thats odd considering PainUser's been out of the spotlight for....MONTHS since MLG in NOVEMBER lol. Wonder why he was tagged before so many others.
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PaladiN_23
Profile Joined August 2010
84 Posts
March 08 2011 18:38 GMT
#134
Ret should be there forsuree, I would also like to see ROOTCatZ as his games would be fun to watch
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
March 08 2011 18:44 GMT
#135
On March 09 2011 03:28 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Thats odd considering PainUser's been out of the spotlight for....MONTHS since MLG in NOVEMBER lol. Wonder why he was tagged before so many others.

Maybe cause most NA pros declined invite puting MLG higher?
I believe HuK and Jinro could skip one MLG and still get a high ranking in MLG final
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
March 08 2011 18:46 GMT
#136
On March 09 2011 03:28 ZlaSHeR wrote:
Thats odd considering PainUser's been out of the spotlight for....MONTHS since MLG in NOVEMBER lol. Wonder why he was tagged before so many others.


I think most NA American pros are going to MLG. I know Painuser has been practicing on the Korean server lately.
Don't mind me
ptbl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6074 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-08 18:47:23
March 08 2011 18:47 GMT
#137
On March 09 2011 03:38 PaladiN_23 wrote:
Ret should be there forsuree, I would also like to see ROOTCatZ as his games would be fun to watch


Ret left the GSL and Korea. It would be pretty weird for him to participate when he just left. Anyway, I think he said he's going to MLG.
Don't mind me
mdma-_-
Profile Joined October 2010
Nauru1213 Posts
March 08 2011 18:47 GMT
#138
On March 09 2011 03:10 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 09 2011 02:19 Derez wrote:
On March 09 2011 01:22 nam nam wrote:
Without the NASL (and such events) the gap would grow even wider. You don't narrow the gap without investing anything. If the NASL is a success it will probably mean more sponsors, bigger interest and more dedicated players. If we ever want to have a chance to compete with the Korean scene now is the time to do it but we can't expect it to happen over night.


I completely agree. All I'm saying is that you need players that can compete on a truly 'global' level when it comes to making starcraft 2 a succesful e-sport, and that that's partially 'our' (the viewers) fault. The GSL has proven that there is a (small) audience for paid SC2 events, but it's going to be the viewers that make or break the NASL.

I was just commenting on trying to set up a new sports division in an age where the audience is wired in and geographical location doesn't play a role anymore.


Culture plays a huge role in this. It's not just the team houses or training facilities or anything else. If anything, I think Sweden, with its deep rooted gamer culture, has the biggest chance of replicating S.K.'s success. I don't have any hopes for NA, even with its huge population and financial resources, given the current state of society here. Not a positive or negative value judgment, just different priorities, cultural values and attitudes of the general public. Same thing with China. Look at its HUGE population, and the overwhelming amount of gamers there. Unfortunately, the culture dictates everything, and "pro-gaming" is frowned upon there, even more so than NA. I don't want to be such a pessimist, but unless some paradigm shift happens in cultural values, shit isn't going to change.

Look at WC3. S.K. was still relatively dominant, winning or placing in the top 3 of most championships. Yet, WC3 was held to a distant secondary status to BW in S.K. If the full force of that nation goes behind SC2, I don't even want to think about what would happen...

If the chinese actually played sc2 instead of wc3/bw they would certainly become the 2nd strongest nation quiet fast. China has a much bigger potential than any european/american country. Why should progaming be frowned upon in china? The govenment is even sponsoring it and warcraft is gonna run on national tv this year. (http://www.sk-gaming.com/content/31415-Chinas_government_sponsors_CEPL) Or look at WCG 2009. They had HUGE crowds in Chengdu. (http://www.youtube.com/user/WorldCyberGames#p/search/22/rrTXLG5XxmQ)
As Sc2 will be on Sale in china soon, i imagine more ppl will pick it up and sc2 will grow rapidly over there. (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=192975)
Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
March 08 2011 18:47 GMT
#139
I am so hyped for this. I especially can't wait for the little Team league thing they got going. Foreigners vs Koreans!
<3 | Dota 2 | DayZ | <3
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
March 08 2011 18:49 GMT
#140
Yeah the team league is exciting. However, there is no prize money announced for that, so is it just an exhibition with no prize money? I can see it being just an exhibition since the main event is the 16 player tournament. Can you imagine if they sent out mvp first and he 8-0 the world team?
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
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