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FliedLice
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany7494 Posts
March 16 2011 20:33 GMT
#1801
On March 17 2011 05:25 Sandermatt wrote:
How can these koreans participate. I mean they are part of the gsl, does the NASL fit in their schedule? And if it does, why did idra leave korea than.


because theres also mlg, iem and dreamhack


also he'd have to play the online phase of NASL with terrible delay
Kevmeister @ Dota2
HowSoOnIsNow
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada480 Posts
March 16 2011 20:34 GMT
#1802
On March 16 2011 22:40 rO_Or wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 06:21 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
On March 16 2011 01:35 RevRich wrote:
People fail to realize that the GSL has a HUGE barrier to entry for us foreigners. If Joe Starcraft player wants to play in the GSL he needs to make a long-term commitment and turn his entire life upside down to do so. I don't see anyone complaining or accusing GOM of racism for the way they run their tournament (they offer no online qualification/advancement). I feel that it would be a disservice to NAers to have Korean players advancing in the NASL strictly through online play and then only having to commit to a short-term trip to NA to compete and collect the huge prize.

I don't know about you, but watching some code A guys destroy everyone at IEM wasn't fun to spectate. I want to see players that have an even footing battle it out. In my opinion watching Koreans (12hrs+ a day practicing - its their entire life) competing against foreigners not living in Korea (4-6hrs+ a day practicing - its not their entire life) just isn't compelling competition. Like I've said before on this topic - when our culture supports starcraft players the way Korea's culture does - I'll be all for having a true global starcraft tournament. Unfortunately, our cultures are no where near the same in that regard.

I'm new to the community so maybe I don't understand the rabid fanaticism for Korean players. Why do people in NA/Europe respect/root for Korean players almost as much, if not more, than their own countrymen? I suppose people just want to the see the best of the best. I'm still of the opinion that Korean players are better at SC2 because they practice 10x harder than foreigners.
Their culture allows such dedication, ours does not.


So why would i want to watch a bunch of College slackers who take Esports as a hobby, a bunch of self called pros who play for a few hours and call it a good day. Why would i root for a Foreigner? Because he`s not asian? Or because he`s just not from Korea? I feel like i have more in common with a dedicated guy like Boxer or a confident guy like Mc than some of the guys i`ve seen in VoDs.

I root for Huk, because he`s a fellow Quebecer, and so do i for Kiwikaki, but that`s it. Why would i root for some dudes from the States or Sweden? I like Jinro because he`s a skilled guy. I like TlO for the same reasons. If you aint got the skills, im not gonna root for you because of the flag youre born under. And if the foreigner aint from your country, why rooting for the guy? It just doesnt make any sense.

It`s like if english people wouldnt enjoy Ronaldiniho playing or Messi, just because they`re not english and they`re just superior players.

And i might say something controversial here, but Koreans arent better just because they practice harder. They have, generally, the skillset for the game.

And if you didnt like July`s application comparatively to one like AVilo, it just screams bias.


You realize HuK isnt from Quebec right?


Well...he has a Quebecer name though 0__o....Loranger...only Tremblayis more quebecer than that family name!!
Real mens play Zerg.. Startale fighting.
Xain
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada94 Posts
March 16 2011 20:45 GMT
#1803
On March 17 2011 05:34 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 22:40 rO_Or wrote:
On March 16 2011 06:21 HowSoOnIsNow wrote:
On March 16 2011 01:35 RevRich wrote:
People fail to realize that the GSL has a HUGE barrier to entry for us foreigners. If Joe Starcraft player wants to play in the GSL he needs to make a long-term commitment and turn his entire life upside down to do so. I don't see anyone complaining or accusing GOM of racism for the way they run their tournament (they offer no online qualification/advancement). I feel that it would be a disservice to NAers to have Korean players advancing in the NASL strictly through online play and then only having to commit to a short-term trip to NA to compete and collect the huge prize.

I don't know about you, but watching some code A guys destroy everyone at IEM wasn't fun to spectate. I want to see players that have an even footing battle it out. In my opinion watching Koreans (12hrs+ a day practicing - its their entire life) competing against foreigners not living in Korea (4-6hrs+ a day practicing - its not their entire life) just isn't compelling competition. Like I've said before on this topic - when our culture supports starcraft players the way Korea's culture does - I'll be all for having a true global starcraft tournament. Unfortunately, our cultures are no where near the same in that regard.

I'm new to the community so maybe I don't understand the rabid fanaticism for Korean players. Why do people in NA/Europe respect/root for Korean players almost as much, if not more, than their own countrymen? I suppose people just want to the see the best of the best. I'm still of the opinion that Korean players are better at SC2 because they practice 10x harder than foreigners.
Their culture allows such dedication, ours does not.


So why would i want to watch a bunch of College slackers who take Esports as a hobby, a bunch of self called pros who play for a few hours and call it a good day. Why would i root for a Foreigner? Because he`s not asian? Or because he`s just not from Korea? I feel like i have more in common with a dedicated guy like Boxer or a confident guy like Mc than some of the guys i`ve seen in VoDs.

I root for Huk, because he`s a fellow Quebecer, and so do i for Kiwikaki, but that`s it. Why would i root for some dudes from the States or Sweden? I like Jinro because he`s a skilled guy. I like TlO for the same reasons. If you aint got the skills, im not gonna root for you because of the flag youre born under. And if the foreigner aint from your country, why rooting for the guy? It just doesnt make any sense.

It`s like if english people wouldnt enjoy Ronaldiniho playing or Messi, just because they`re not english and they`re just superior players.

And i might say something controversial here, but Koreans arent better just because they practice harder. They have, generally, the skillset for the game.

And if you didnt like July`s application comparatively to one like AVilo, it just screams bias.


You realize HuK isnt from Quebec right?


Well...he has a Quebecer name though 0__o....Loranger...only Tremblayis more quebecer than that family name!!


Loranger isn't that much of a quebecer name actually... just a somewhat common french name. Also he said in a interview that he has francophone origins (France or Quebec I don't remember, anyway to a certain point it's pretty much the same), but doesn't actually speak french, and he lives in Ontario.
Liquid`HayprO
Profile Joined March 2003
Iraq1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 21:11:13
March 16 2011 21:10 GMT
#1804
Team oGs NASL video applications.

Zenio



TOP



TheWinD



SuperNoVa



NaDa



MC



InCa



Ensnare



Cezzane

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oursblanc
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1450 Posts
March 16 2011 21:12 GMT
#1805
NaDa. <3
An oasis of horror in a desert of boredom!
Synystyr
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1446 Posts
March 16 2011 21:13 GMT
#1806
Nada's english is fucking BALLER.
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stalife
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada1222 Posts
March 16 2011 21:17 GMT
#1807
would love to have the entire oGs teams participate as well as the ST guys ! I just wish IM would make their videos soon :D
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Doraemon.doraemon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States335 Posts
March 16 2011 21:17 GMT
#1808
Damn oGs...I feel bad for NASL organizers... whichever 50 players they choose, whatever they do, there are going to be a lot of players left out...the backlash will be huge...
alexhard
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden317 Posts
March 16 2011 21:21 GMT
#1809
NaDa and MC...wow.
fatalities
Profile Joined November 2010
United States91 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 21:24:23
March 16 2011 21:22 GMT
#1810
Hahaha.
MC's attitude is quite entertaining, although I suppose it was expected.
edit: also, all of them have better English than I would have expected.
Deekin[
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia1713 Posts
March 16 2011 21:22 GMT
#1811
OMG Nada!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My heart just started beating very fast!!

I'd truly go homo for that guy <3!
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ CJ Entus fighting! I am a Leta, Hydra, Mind and (ofcourse) Firebathero fan. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
March 16 2011 21:25 GMT
#1812
oGs guys have pretty good english. and Zenio and Idra!!
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 21:59:48
March 16 2011 21:25 GMT
#1813
Btw, I saw some comments for the startale vods about how its just their managers preparing this etc, and I cant speak for Startale but all of oGs did this on their own - yeah, they asked for help when they needed it but nobody here wrote it for them.

Inca basically soloed his completely. So the idiots saying the Koreans arent making an effort to interact with the non-Kor scene or whatever... just dont even start.

MC did no preparation at all and just answered Qs as they came.
Moderatortell the guy that interplanatar interaction is pivotal to terrans variety of optionitudals in the pre-midgame preperatories as well as the protosstinal deterriggation of elite zergling strikes - Stimey n | Formerly FrozenArbiter
Bobster
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany3075 Posts
March 16 2011 21:25 GMT
#1814
oh snap!

That's tough competition incoming.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 16 2011 21:25 GMT
#1815
Nada has nice English.
floor exercise
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada5847 Posts
March 16 2011 21:27 GMT
#1816
On March 17 2011 06:17 Doraemon.doraemon wrote:
Damn oGs...I feel bad for NASL organizers... whichever 50 players they choose, whatever they do, there are going to be a lot of players left out...the backlash will be huge...

You're kinda asking for it with an invite league though
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
March 16 2011 21:30 GMT
#1817
And some people would rather see a NASL without someone like Nada. Unbelievable.
GP
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1056 Posts
March 16 2011 21:30 GMT
#1818
Ha ha I love these.
Wesso
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands1245 Posts
March 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#1819
On March 17 2011 06:17 Doraemon.doraemon wrote:
Damn oGs...I feel bad for NASL organizers... whichever 50 players they choose, whatever they do, there are going to be a lot of players left out...the backlash will be huge...


Yeah, I think I'll evade TL for a week or so after they've announced the line-up
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 21:33:03
March 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#1820
OMG Nada's video is actually better than many NA/EU player videos in... EVERYTHING. So impressed, I never thought I could respect the guy any more than I already did, but that was mindblowingly beautiful.

And HuK manages to be awesome even behind the camera. =D
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