On March 17 2011 05:25 Sandermatt wrote: How can these koreans participate. I mean they are part of the gsl, does the NASL fit in their schedule? And if it does, why did idra leave korea than.
because theres also mlg, iem and dreamhack
also he'd have to play the online phase of NASL with terrible delay
On March 16 2011 01:35 RevRich wrote: People fail to realize that the GSL has a HUGE barrier to entry for us foreigners. If Joe Starcraft player wants to play in the GSL he needs to make a long-term commitment and turn his entire life upside down to do so. I don't see anyone complaining or accusing GOM of racism for the way they run their tournament (they offer no online qualification/advancement). I feel that it would be a disservice to NAers to have Korean players advancing in the NASL strictly through online play and then only having to commit to a short-term trip to NA to compete and collect the huge prize.
I don't know about you, but watching some code A guys destroy everyone at IEM wasn't fun to spectate. I want to see players that have an even footing battle it out. In my opinion watching Koreans (12hrs+ a day practicing - its their entire life) competing against foreigners not living in Korea (4-6hrs+ a day practicing - its not their entire life) just isn't compelling competition. Like I've said before on this topic - when our culture supports starcraft players the way Korea's culture does - I'll be all for having a true global starcraft tournament. Unfortunately, our cultures are no where near the same in that regard.
I'm new to the community so maybe I don't understand the rabid fanaticism for Korean players. Why do people in NA/Europe respect/root for Korean players almost as much, if not more, than their own countrymen? I suppose people just want to the see the best of the best. I'm still of the opinion that Korean players are better at SC2 because they practice 10x harder than foreigners. Their culture allows such dedication, ours does not.
So why would i want to watch a bunch of College slackers who take Esports as a hobby, a bunch of self called pros who play for a few hours and call it a good day. Why would i root for a Foreigner? Because he`s not asian? Or because he`s just not from Korea? I feel like i have more in common with a dedicated guy like Boxer or a confident guy like Mc than some of the guys i`ve seen in VoDs.
I root for Huk, because he`s a fellow Quebecer, and so do i for Kiwikaki, but that`s it. Why would i root for some dudes from the States or Sweden? I like Jinro because he`s a skilled guy. I like TlO for the same reasons. If you aint got the skills, im not gonna root for you because of the flag youre born under. And if the foreigner aint from your country, why rooting for the guy? It just doesnt make any sense.
It`s like if english people wouldnt enjoy Ronaldiniho playing or Messi, just because they`re not english and they`re just superior players.
And i might say something controversial here, but Koreans arent better just because they practice harder. They have, generally, the skillset for the game.
And if you didnt like July`s application comparatively to one like AVilo, it just screams bias.
You realize HuK isnt from Quebec right?
Well...he has a Quebecer name though 0__o....Loranger...only Tremblayis more quebecer than that family name!!
On March 16 2011 01:35 RevRich wrote: People fail to realize that the GSL has a HUGE barrier to entry for us foreigners. If Joe Starcraft player wants to play in the GSL he needs to make a long-term commitment and turn his entire life upside down to do so. I don't see anyone complaining or accusing GOM of racism for the way they run their tournament (they offer no online qualification/advancement). I feel that it would be a disservice to NAers to have Korean players advancing in the NASL strictly through online play and then only having to commit to a short-term trip to NA to compete and collect the huge prize.
I don't know about you, but watching some code A guys destroy everyone at IEM wasn't fun to spectate. I want to see players that have an even footing battle it out. In my opinion watching Koreans (12hrs+ a day practicing - its their entire life) competing against foreigners not living in Korea (4-6hrs+ a day practicing - its not their entire life) just isn't compelling competition. Like I've said before on this topic - when our culture supports starcraft players the way Korea's culture does - I'll be all for having a true global starcraft tournament. Unfortunately, our cultures are no where near the same in that regard.
I'm new to the community so maybe I don't understand the rabid fanaticism for Korean players. Why do people in NA/Europe respect/root for Korean players almost as much, if not more, than their own countrymen? I suppose people just want to the see the best of the best. I'm still of the opinion that Korean players are better at SC2 because they practice 10x harder than foreigners. Their culture allows such dedication, ours does not.
So why would i want to watch a bunch of College slackers who take Esports as a hobby, a bunch of self called pros who play for a few hours and call it a good day. Why would i root for a Foreigner? Because he`s not asian? Or because he`s just not from Korea? I feel like i have more in common with a dedicated guy like Boxer or a confident guy like Mc than some of the guys i`ve seen in VoDs.
I root for Huk, because he`s a fellow Quebecer, and so do i for Kiwikaki, but that`s it. Why would i root for some dudes from the States or Sweden? I like Jinro because he`s a skilled guy. I like TlO for the same reasons. If you aint got the skills, im not gonna root for you because of the flag youre born under. And if the foreigner aint from your country, why rooting for the guy? It just doesnt make any sense.
It`s like if english people wouldnt enjoy Ronaldiniho playing or Messi, just because they`re not english and they`re just superior players.
And i might say something controversial here, but Koreans arent better just because they practice harder. They have, generally, the skillset for the game.
And if you didnt like July`s application comparatively to one like AVilo, it just screams bias.
You realize HuK isnt from Quebec right?
Well...he has a Quebecer name though 0__o....Loranger...only Tremblayis more quebecer than that family name!!
Loranger isn't that much of a quebecer name actually... just a somewhat common french name. Also he said in a interview that he has francophone origins (France or Quebec I don't remember, anyway to a certain point it's pretty much the same), but doesn't actually speak french, and he lives in Ontario.
Damn oGs...I feel bad for NASL organizers... whichever 50 players they choose, whatever they do, there are going to be a lot of players left out...the backlash will be huge...
Hahaha. MC's attitude is quite entertaining, although I suppose it was expected. edit: also, all of them have better English than I would have expected.
Btw, I saw some comments for the startale vods about how its just their managers preparing this etc, and I cant speak for Startale but all of oGs did this on their own - yeah, they asked for help when they needed it but nobody here wrote it for them.
Inca basically soloed his completely. So the idiots saying the Koreans arent making an effort to interact with the non-Kor scene or whatever... just dont even start.
MC did no preparation at all and just answered Qs as they came.
On March 17 2011 06:17 Doraemon.doraemon wrote: Damn oGs...I feel bad for NASL organizers... whichever 50 players they choose, whatever they do, there are going to be a lot of players left out...the backlash will be huge...
You're kinda asking for it with an invite league though
On March 17 2011 06:17 Doraemon.doraemon wrote: Damn oGs...I feel bad for NASL organizers... whichever 50 players they choose, whatever they do, there are going to be a lot of players left out...the backlash will be huge...
Yeah, I think I'll evade TL for a week or so after they've announced the line-up
OMG Nada's video is actually better than many NA/EU player videos in... EVERYTHING. So impressed, I never thought I could respect the guy any more than I already did, but that was mindblowingly beautiful.
And HuK manages to be awesome even behind the camera. =D
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