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On March 05 2011 15:25 Azarkon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:23 Cyanocyst wrote:On March 05 2011 15:19 Tokadub wrote:
This seems to be a recurring theme. The zerg is in a position to absolutely crush the protoss but then builds either the wrong unit compositions, stops harassing, or just sends tiny streams of units at the protoss instead of building up the proper reinforcements.
It's probably due to zerg having the highest skill cap. Most these zergs just aren't quite good enough to defeat the protoss death ball in these critical tournament games. Its very hard to break the neck of the other races as Zerg. I think thats why it seems like some of these Zerg have trouble closing out the game. I don't know if people noticed, but TheWind ran out of resources. He was mined out in both main and nat and his gold wasn't that saturated. He probably had resources banked to do the kinds of continuous streaming that he did during the mid-game, but once those resources were spent he was not able to collect enough to stop the medium-sized force that SanZenith had pushing down.
He also lost like 1000 minerals worth of Static D to a single DT. That really angered me to see. The Wind!
Anyway, Trickster (Top Left) vs. Sc (Bottom Left) on Tal'Darim.
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On March 05 2011 15:21 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:19 Phats wrote:god i hate when zerg do not counter unit compositions... reswitch to hydra? or like 3 corrupters....... its so disappointing...I hope san is gonna get rolled next round, taking out my favourite zerg and now thewind  why would u ask moon to emulate thewind? did you see his hydra drops in his IEM semi final against squirtle... game 3 was amazing he was hydra dropping all over the place and even repicking them up and saving them as tho they were marines! killed one nexus like 4 times. Yeah I am so pissed at SanZenith I'd support a terran over him right now. I hate anyone who beats FD! Anypro beat FD, not San he beat NesTea.
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On March 05 2011 15:23 Moonwrath wrote:
People need to quit bitching about balance. That match was SO close, it could have gone either way. Wind made a mistake by not dealing with the void rays and it cost him the game. CASE FUCKING CLOSED.
How does the match being close equate to the game being balanced? People bitching obviously think the Wind deserved to win by a significant margin.
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Lets go trickster :D Protoss fighting!
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Obviously, Tastosis hasn't heard of 4 Port Banshee ~_~
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Artosis says Seige Tanks are the late game against Protoss? They get absolutely wrecked by Collosus and Blink it's not even funny and not even close to an option.
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GO SCFOU! We need more terrans in the ro8!
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On March 05 2011 15:26 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:23 GDbushido wrote:On March 05 2011 15:21 Zarahtra wrote:On March 05 2011 15:17 DeltruS wrote:
Imagine if TheWind had 10 queens in the last battle.. it would have been rape lol. Even though san ignored those 3 queens, I'm pretty sure 10 queens would make san warp in hts to feedback. no way he could matched thewind for every queen. True, but at the same time, 7 queens more would be 48 zerglings less, so just feedbacking the highest energy queens and it shouldn't be that bad for the stalkers to deal with the queens, since there wouldn't really be anything else on the field. 4 queens (for a total of 6) and however many lings to keep the stalkers off them wins.
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On March 05 2011 15:27 mindspike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:23 Moonwrath wrote:
People need to quit bitching about balance. That match was SO close, it could have gone either way. Wind made a mistake by not dealing with the void rays and it cost him the game. CASE FUCKING CLOSED. How does the match being close equate to the game being balanced? People bitching obviously think the Wind deserved to win by a significant margin.
Because the match was close, skill decided the win, not any kind of imbalance.
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On March 05 2011 15:27 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:25 Azarkon wrote:On March 05 2011 15:23 Cyanocyst wrote:On March 05 2011 15:19 Tokadub wrote:
This seems to be a recurring theme. The zerg is in a position to absolutely crush the protoss but then builds either the wrong unit compositions, stops harassing, or just sends tiny streams of units at the protoss instead of building up the proper reinforcements.
It's probably due to zerg having the highest skill cap. Most these zergs just aren't quite good enough to defeat the protoss death ball in these critical tournament games. Its very hard to break the neck of the other races as Zerg. I think thats why it seems like some of these Zerg have trouble closing out the game. I don't know if people noticed, but TheWind ran out of resources. He was mined out in both main and nat and his gold wasn't that saturated. He probably had resources banked to do the kinds of continuous streaming that he did during the mid-game, but once those resources were spent he was not able to collect enough to stop the medium-sized force that SanZenith had pushing down. He also lost like 1000 minerals worth of Static D to a single DT. That really angered me to see. The Wind! Anyway, Trickster (Top Left) vs. Sc (Bottom Left) on Tal'Darim.
Right, he also lost 7-8 broodlords to 3 void rays. Things like that take a toll on your ability to put up a resistance even if you do manage to kill the Protoss's nexuses.
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LOL dont fear the reaper reference.
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Was is it just me who saw San's micro on those blink stalkers when theWind countered with roaches?
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Stalkers are fallen DTs right? not zealots.
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On March 05 2011 15:27 mindspike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:23 Moonwrath wrote:
People need to quit bitching about balance. That match was SO close, it could have gone either way. Wind made a mistake by not dealing with the void rays and it cost him the game. CASE FUCKING CLOSED. How does the match being close equate to the game being balanced? People bitching obviously think the Wind deserved to win by a significant margin.
They're wrong. The wind made a lot of mistakes, and he lost a ton of corrupters needless by flying them by stalkers.
Stalker rush inbound! And fails!
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On March 05 2011 15:27 mindspike wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:23 Moonwrath wrote:
People need to quit bitching about balance. That match was SO close, it could have gone either way. Wind made a mistake by not dealing with the void rays and it cost him the game. CASE FUCKING CLOSED. How does the match being close equate to the game being balanced? People bitching obviously think the Wind deserved to win by a significant margin.
So make a post in the strategy section if you need to. Play by play threads aren't for balance crying.
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On March 05 2011 15:27 Mise wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:21 redviper wrote:On March 05 2011 15:19 Phats wrote:god i hate when zerg do not counter unit compositions... reswitch to hydra? or like 3 corrupters....... its so disappointing...I hope san is gonna get rolled next round, taking out my favourite zerg and now thewind why would u ask moon to emulate thewind? did you see his hydra drops in his IEM semi final against squirtle... game 3 was amazing he was hydra dropping all over the place and even repicking them up and saving them as tho they were marines! killed one nexus like 4 times. Yeah I am so pissed at SanZenith I'd support a terran over him right now. I hate anyone who beats FD! Anypro beat FD, not San he beat NesTea.
Oh true. In that case good that he went through.
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no detection makes me cringe
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Trickster getting Charge (?), but he has no robo or forge, and cloak banshees are on the was for sC
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On March 05 2011 15:30 Telcontar wrote:
Stalkers are fallen DTs right? not zealots.
Correct.
Looked it up, had no idea.
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EPT
