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On March 05 2011 15:21 Zarahtra wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:17 DeltruS wrote: Imagine if TheWind had 10 queens in the last battle.. it would have been rape lol. Even though san ignored those 3 queens, I'm pretty sure 10 queens would make san warp in hts to feedback. no way he could have matched thewind for every queen.
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On March 05 2011 15:19 Tokadub wrote: This seems to be a recurring theme. The zerg is in a position to absolutely crush the protoss but then builds either the wrong unit compositions, stops harassing, or just sends tiny streams of units at the protoss instead of building up the proper reinforcements.
It's probably due to zerg having the highest skill cap. Most these zergs just aren't quite good enough to defeat the protoss death ball in these critical tournament games.
People don't mention the DT. The DT was so fricking critical. TheWind's defense was spine-based, and a DT killed them all.
On March 05 2011 15:21 redviper wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:19 Phats wrote:god i hate when zerg do not counter unit compositions... reswitch to hydra? or like 3 corrupters....... its so disappointing...I hope san is gonna get rolled next round, taking out my favourite zerg and now thewind  why would u ask moon to emulate thewind? did you see his hydra drops in his IEM semi final against squirtle... game 3 was amazing he was hydra dropping all over the place and even repicking them up and saving them as tho they were marines! killed one nexus like 4 times. Yeah I am so pissed at SanZenith I'd support a terran over him right now. I hate anyone who beats FD!
That was anypro.
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On March 05 2011 15:22 ooni wrote: Tester (Trickers), Sangho (Killer) and Jinro Imba Chin Triangle Naw, epic chin triangle would include Stats + Mind + Jinro.
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i think, if Tester beats sC, he can do it trough the san and mc/hongun, tester's pvp is preeeeettty good (as well as pvz)
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On March 05 2011 15:13 cordlc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:12 SiguR wrote: Thewind is badass. He certainly played better. This series is a pretty good showcase of the state of the matchup. Indeed. I was hoping TheWind would just attack him earlier, don't see why Zerg passively macro against Protoss, just asking to get rolled by a deathball.
Well, TheWind was waiting for the protoss to move out to do that drop and, laugh because protoss takes forever to get back with their ball. It's actually the perfect move, and it gives you all the time you need to remax after losing that force and doing really good damage.
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I just don't like Trickster for some reason. sC MUST win.
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All the palm readers watching this are gonna be so pissed.
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On March 05 2011 15:19 inamorato wrote: AHHH They started 4 hours early. These results are not fucking pleasant thus far. Every saturday for a long time they start early. Week days : they start at 18h korea time, because people are working. Weekend days : they start at 14h korea time, because people are NOT working :p
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Zerg and Terran having a ton of trouble vs Protoss on these maps it seems.
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hahah artosis "Marketing works"
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On March 05 2011 15:23 Cyanocyst wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:19 Tokadub wrote: This seems to be a recurring theme. The zerg is in a position to absolutely crush the protoss but then builds either the wrong unit compositions, stops harassing, or just sends tiny streams of units at the protoss instead of building up the proper reinforcements.
It's probably due to zerg having the highest skill cap. Most these zergs just aren't quite good enough to defeat the protoss death ball in these critical tournament games. Its very hard to break the neck of the other races as Zerg. I think thats why it seems like some of these Zerg have trouble closing out the game.
I don't know if people noticed, but TheWind ran out of resources. He was mined out in both main and nat and his gold wasn't that saturated. He probably had resources banked to do the kinds of continuous streaming that he did during the mid-game, but once those resources were spent he was not able to collect enough to stop the medium-sized force that SanZenith had pushing down.
Also, no one seems to mention that the drop cost TheWind a lot of resources. It wasn't like he did a lot of damage and then got back out. He lost his entire army there and SanZenith kept most of his (except for his colossi). Protoss had much better unit retention and this ultimately ran TheWind dry.
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SC please make it so we get to watch less of PvPs ....
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i want all the protoss to advance so everyone can see the terrible state of pvp.
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For those people saying why Player X didn't make this or that, you realize that both players had the entire tech tree, minus ultralisks, carriers, and mothership available.
TheWind's decision to mass roaches at the end was the safe decision, and what a high level player would do. You guys are assuming TheWind knew what San was building. He didn't. San had shown both Colossi and HT, which own hydras, plus the lack of mobility off creep make hydras way too risky. Roaches are cost effective against stalkers and are mobile, so it made sense to make them.
At the end of the day, San's micro and decision making won him the game.
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On March 05 2011 15:23 GDbushido wrote:Show nested quote +On March 05 2011 15:21 Zarahtra wrote:On March 05 2011 15:17 DeltruS wrote: Imagine if TheWind had 10 queens in the last battle.. it would have been rape lol. Even though san ignored those 3 queens, I'm pretty sure 10 queens would make san warp in hts to feedback. no way he could matched thewind for every queen. True, but at the same time, 7 queens more would be 48 zerglings less, so just feedbacking the highest energy queens and it shouldn't be that bad for the stalkers to deal with the queens, since there wouldn't really be anything else on the field.
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soggy soup is going to have some tricks up his sleeves
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On March 05 2011 15:17 DeltruS wrote: Imagine if TheWind had 10 queens in the last battle.. it would have been rape lol. yea rofl but imagine if sanszenith had 35 carriers in the last battle. that would have been serious rape lol.
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