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tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 01 2011 11:32 GMT
#1441
On March 01 2011 20:31 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:29 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:24 Belha wrote:
And that's why Blizz nerf early stim.


The problem with stim certainly isn't the timing, it's far more than that.


*beats head against wall*

Aren't there rules against this kind of stuff in LR threads? You might as well have just said 'stim OP' and left it at that.


If it's bothering you so much just report it and move on. :/
emc
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3088 Posts
March 01 2011 11:33 GMT
#1442
On March 01 2011 20:29 Psychopomp wrote:
What's everyone talking about that being too risky?

That was the standard KCDC FE as far as I can tell


may be standard against certain builds, but is SO risky against 4 rax I mean come on, as Tasteless said it's simple math, 4 rax > 1 gate/robo. Just scout, react to your opponent and react properly and you can win, Inca obviously didn't react well enough or didn't scout well enough to see it coming, thus the build he did was risky for the build SC did, plain and simple.
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
March 01 2011 11:33 GMT
#1443
On March 01 2011 20:30 lachy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


It may be boring, but zerg losing so easily over and over is also somewhat boring.



Maybe try watching the games and not just looking what race lost and complaining about it.

We get it. Lots of people don't like zerg right now. Well that's not an excuse to go on and on about it every time a zerg loses, whether it was their fault or not. Because 90% of the time, I guarentee you it is their fault.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-01 11:33:47
March 01 2011 11:33 GMT
#1444
On March 01 2011 20:29 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:26 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:22 Tyree wrote:
First infant child on TeamLiquid.net!


Now this I seriously doubt. Just read every comment made here and you will understand.


no shit, I mean seriously.

The people winning are just out playing and out thinking their opponents it has nothing to do with balance.


Your understanding of the game seems to be very narrow.
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
March 01 2011 11:34 GMT
#1445
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


I then remember GSL 1 when Z were vastly underpowered and disadvantaged (according to popular belief) and suddenly FruitDealer won. Then GSL 2 where Z were strongly disadvantaged... until Nestea won. Then... then well, nobody stepped on our Zerg throne

That's why we need a dominant player. But well, seeing the GSL advancing, it seems there is none. One by one they get raped, be it because they got outclassed, or just because they got a bad day. The other problem is that in you only have 4 zergs in code S...
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
March 01 2011 11:35 GMT
#1446
what is the little avatar on the left of my username??

im new to this forum :/
Irrelevant
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2364 Posts
March 01 2011 11:35 GMT
#1447
On March 01 2011 20:30 lachy89 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


It may be boring, but zerg losing so easily over and over is also somewhat boring.


Name one zerg that lost this season without getting completely outplayed or making huge mistakes
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
March 01 2011 11:36 GMT
#1448
On March 01 2011 20:27 emc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:24 Belha wrote:
And that's why Blizz nerf early stim.


uh.. Inca did an extremely risky build, he teched and expanded, SC punished him, so how the hell does nerfing stim have anything to do with that?

You can't go 1 gate robo, expand and cry imba are you serious?

Let's see progamer.
1) Check any Fe toss build, includes the nexus, then 2 gates AND a ROBO.
2) Did u notice? Blizz is trying to make the game more atracting, longer games, bigger maps, bw style. Stim is fine,not imba, blizz just delayed the early stim for better games porpose, not his sheer power. My complain was about the beauty of the match. Not all the balances are just for "imba qq" reasons.

And please learn to read between the lines, inform yourself, then talk.
Chicken gank op
lachy89
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia264 Posts
March 01 2011 11:36 GMT
#1449
On March 01 2011 20:33 The KY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:30 lachy89 wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


It may be boring, but zerg losing so easily over and over is also somewhat boring.



Maybe try watching the games and not just looking what race lost and complaining about it.

We get it. Lots of people don't like zerg right now. Well that's not an excuse to go on and on about it every time a zerg loses, whether it was their fault or not. Because 90% of the time, I guarentee you it is their fault.


Yes I went on and on about it... I have watched all GSL games since season 3, and to me it has become boring watching zerg's lose so easily. I won't go into the balance side here but I don't think your 90% stats are correct...
Cabinet Sanchez
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia1097 Posts
March 01 2011 11:36 GMT
#1450
On March 01 2011 20:35 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
what is the little avatar on the left of my username??

im new to this forum :/


SC1 SCV
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
March 01 2011 11:36 GMT
#1451
On March 01 2011 20:35 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
what is the little avatar on the left of my username??

im new to this forum :/


It's an SCV! As you post more, it'll become a marine, and then higher and higher tech SC1 units! You can change what race's units you display in the profile settings!

As you post more, try to stay on topic :D
FakeDouble
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia676 Posts
March 01 2011 11:36 GMT
#1452
On March 01 2011 20:29 Psychopomp wrote:
What's everyone talking about that being too risky?

That was the standard KCDC FE as far as I can tell


With kcdc fe though, don't you have to adapt to what the terran is doing?

On August 10 2010 21:22 kcdc wrote:

Your WG research should finish just before your nexus completes, so use this as a timing cue that you'll need to transfer workers shortly. This is also when a 2-rax expo or 3-rax all-in will hit. If there isn't MM attacking your nexus, you want to send one of your transfer probes to camp T's natural. THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. Terran players LOVE to do late all-ins vs 1 gate FE, and this scout probe will tell you whether an all-in is coming. If there's no expo when your probe arrives, you need to get 2 more gateways (5 total) ASAP.


Inca scouted marauders and no expo, yet insisted on going 1 gate robo after FE and got punished.
Formerly known as carbonaceous
EviL.sc
Profile Joined November 2010
Portugal82 Posts
March 01 2011 11:36 GMT
#1453
Are you guys also listening to someone browsing the menu or something?
"I left in love, in laughter, and in truth and wherever truth, love and laughter abide, I am there in spirit." - Bill Hicks
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
March 01 2011 11:36 GMT
#1454
On March 01 2011 20:35 Irrelevant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:30 lachy89 wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


It may be boring, but zerg losing so easily over and over is also somewhat boring.


Name one zerg that lost this season without getting completely outplayed or making huge mistakes



san vs. NesTea, NesTea vs. Ensnare
the game is the game
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
March 01 2011 11:37 GMT
#1455
On March 01 2011 20:36 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:35 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
what is the little avatar on the left of my username??

im new to this forum :/


SC1 SCV

can i change it to a probe ?? i am a toss player
bbQ4Aiur
Profile Joined March 2011
Hong Kong2752 Posts
March 01 2011 11:38 GMT
#1456
On March 01 2011 20:36 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:35 Irrelevant wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:30 lachy89 wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


It may be boring, but zerg losing so easily over and over is also somewhat boring.


Name one zerg that lost this season without getting completely outplayed or making huge mistakes



san vs. NesTea, NesTea vs. Ensnare

i think san played well and thats why he won.
i am sad about ret's loss tho, he played great...
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
March 01 2011 11:39 GMT
#1457
On March 01 2011 20:37 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:36 Cabinet Sanchez wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:35 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
what is the little avatar on the left of my username??

im new to this forum :/


SC1 SCV

can i change it to a probe ?? i am a toss player


Go to profile in top right, you can change your race there.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
March 01 2011 11:39 GMT
#1458
On March 01 2011 20:38 bbQ4Aiur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:36 kusto wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:35 Irrelevant wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:30 lachy89 wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


It may be boring, but zerg losing so easily over and over is also somewhat boring.


Name one zerg that lost this season without getting completely outplayed or making huge mistakes



san vs. NesTea, NesTea vs. Ensnare

i think san played well and thats why he won.
i am sad about ret's loss tho, he played great...



read his post again. thank you.
the game is the game
Weemoed
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands741 Posts
March 01 2011 11:40 GMT
#1459
MKP <3
Bring me to space, and let me wander there forever
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
March 01 2011 11:40 GMT
#1460
On March 01 2011 20:36 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 01 2011 20:35 Irrelevant wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:30 lachy89 wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:28 The KY wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:25 ItsMeDomLee wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:21 sleepingdog wrote:
On March 01 2011 20:19 BuzZoo wrote:
I'm actually happy with the Zerg holocaust that is March GSL. I figure it should mean that Blizzard withdraw the "1.3 April fools a month early" patch and actually fix this completely broken game.


The sheer quantity of zerg-QQ even when the opponent was just way better makes all the justified complaints about the zerg-race seem annoying and ridiculous as well.

Keep going.


No, you're right. All the zerg players in the world suck. Ignore us while we learn to play.


That's not even vaguely what he said, wtf are you talking about. He said that the justified complaints about zerg are undermined by the fact that every time a zerg loses anything some ass has to come out and go 'omg blizzard, nice balancing' or some bollocks. Apart from anything else, it's very boring.


It may be boring, but zerg losing so easily over and over is also somewhat boring.


Name one zerg that lost this season without getting completely outplayed or making huge mistakes



san vs. NesTea, NesTea vs. Ensnare

I disagree. I thought that SanZenith completely outplayed Nestea, weakening him during the early game and consistently outplaying him in the late game. Nestea also played slightly poorly against Ensnare, which is evident by the fact that Nestea had bad baneling micro against an MMM composition, which outmaneuvered Nestea's forces and took down his extra expansions all the time. Nestea played very strongly, but not perfectly.
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