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This thread is for commenting on the games. Not for balance discussions and not for commentator bashing.
RoboBob
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States798 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 13:06:16
February 23 2011 12:48 GMT
#1941
This was my first time watching Kelly cast...and she did very good. Her accent didn't bother me much at all; yeah it could be better but its not nearly as bad as half the youtube casters out there. It was clear that she actually did some prep work, and as a result brought a lot of great insider knowledge and analysis. Tasteless, as usual, came across as a frat guy that just rolled out of bed. In fact I would go so far that Kelly's analysis was better than Tasteless'. (Which is not saying much, but still surprising) She's no Day9, iNcontrol, or Artosis, however I think GOM made a good choice with her.

Watching Haypro's games was almost physically painful. I don't know why Huk hyped up GanZi so much, he made sooo many mistakes. The first game especially. GanZi basically gave Haypro like 4 medivacs full of marines for free along with 8-9 free tanks...and yet Haypro still managed to lose quite handily. As for the second game on Terminus...well after seeing Jinro vs. Idra on the same map yesterday it's clear that neither of them are anywhere near code S material.

I gotta say though, I love the new maps. I think maybe terminus is still a bit too big, because you can really alt-tab out the first 10 minutes of the game without missing much. That last ZvZ on Crossfire was awesome though; there was a lot of very cool positional play there.

Edit: Err terminus, not crevasse
macattacc
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden15 Posts
February 23 2011 12:49 GMT
#1942
Came in late for work because i really wanted to see Haypros games and i gotta say it sucks he cant seem to catch a break.

imo he has alot more skill and potential then getting knocked out in round one of code A.

Im thinking korea isnt the place to be (atleast tourny wise) atm in sc2 if you're not already code S. Cosidering thers so many foreign tournaments going on all the time you dont have that huge downtime you have in korea if you lose a single bo3
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
February 23 2011 12:50 GMT
#1943
On February 23 2011 21:30 Fa1nT wrote:
HayprO is pretty damn unlucky.


Yeah i feel bad for him, it's hard for him to prove himself when he keeps running into some
of the best players possible every time.
We make signature, then defense it.
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
February 23 2011 12:50 GMT
#1944
On February 23 2011 21:39 rysecake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 19:59 Talin wrote:
On February 23 2011 19:57 KiNGxXx wrote:
On February 23 2011 19:56 Talin wrote:
On February 23 2011 19:55 {ToT}ColmA wrote:
glad ganzi did it, already saw the lesser player advance yesterday, dont need that shit anymore~


Which lesser player advanced yesterday?

July who's not better then Mvp


July is a "lesser player" than mvp?

Kill me now.





Not sure if serious lol. July is only more accomplished in bw. Even towards the end of his bw days he wasn't in tip top shape. Mvp would have been considered more skilled than July at the end of their bw career. In sc2...well, it's not really even close.


Exactly, I don't know how anyone in their right minds can say that July is the better player after beating MVP the way that he did.
Steamroller
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland756 Posts
February 23 2011 12:51 GMT
#1945
I like Kelly as a commentator. Would like to see her casting with Artosis aswell. Unfortunately hes sicktosis atm.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
February 23 2011 12:52 GMT
#1946
On February 23 2011 21:30 VashTS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 21:25 FarbrorAbavna wrote:
coca cola is better than pepsi so yeah he made the right choice.

LOL WUT!?!?!?!!? u crayzee, boi.

*ahem* So yea... The Archon name should totally be TasteKelly.

Sucks that Kelly is on tomorrow, I much prefer the Tastosis combo. They have good casting chemistry. =)

I am a bit sad about today, tbh. I only correctly guessed the winner from the final set. I figured it to be Moon/Haypro/Ace/Leenock. Still, in their entirety, I did like the matches today but I'm still waiting for mega-epicness like from the GSTL, though.

Same here, and I thought for a while I was going to get them all wrong. I should stop going with my heart.

I am liking the impact of the new maps already.

I dont think it will emulate the team league though because in code S and code A they can practice for who they are going to face but in the team league they dont know who they will play so need to prepare in a different way which makes for more interesting play and unexpected all-kills.
Klimpen
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
New Zealand100 Posts
February 23 2011 12:54 GMT
#1947
Did anyone get a ss of Kelly after tasteless made an offhand comment about how he was looking forward to casting with Artosis tomorrow?

She crossed her arms and kinda shrunk for a few.
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
February 23 2011 12:55 GMT
#1948
Haypro is better off going home I think. He doesn't seem to be good enough for korea and for the subtop there is much more money outside korea anyways.
Uraeus
Profile Joined February 2008
France1378 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 13:05:20
February 23 2011 13:02 GMT
#1949
On February 23 2011 21:39 Vaeila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 21:23 Uraeus wrote:
On February 23 2011 21:20 zYwi3c wrote:
How did Haypro play ? couldnt watch ;<


Pretty well actually. Nice macro, nice reaction times, chose his engagements carefully.

Ganzi though, played a QXC-esque agressive style, dropping marines everywhere, forcing Haypro out of position, and out-multitasking him.
This led to Hayder losing many many expos and being starved to death.

No shame on Haypro, he just lost to a superior opponent.


How can you say he had nice reaction times when he lost 4 or 5 hatches without cancelling?


That's the "out-multitasked" part.
The hatches dying had nothing to do with reaction time whatsoever.

Yes he mostly had good reaction times, as he negated most drops Ganzi threw at him, what requires good reactions and mini-map awareness.
He did that while keeping decent macro too.

I guess this ate most of his APM though, as he was often out of position, he let hatcheries die, etc... He just couldn't be everywhere at hte same time, though I would bet my life he was aware of all that was happening.
You are lucky I don't have a banhammer
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 13:11:36
February 23 2011 13:09 GMT
#1950
Oh Hayder, I wish the result was better, ugh. I'll leave it at that. The guy has such an uphill battle to climb. -_-

On February 23 2011 15:25 GOM.Sam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 15:23 StutteR wrote:
lol grab some fried chicken and bud light. Is that what Koreans think we eat/drink?


No that's what I like to eat and drink while watching sports.


American beer, let alone bud light. I rather drink Saki instead D:
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
February 23 2011 13:13 GMT
#1951
When do the VODs get uploaded to gom site? I can't see them there yet qq.
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
raf3776
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1904 Posts
February 23 2011 13:37 GMT
#1952
On February 23 2011 21:55 Markwerf wrote:
Haypro is better off going home I think. He doesn't seem to be good enough for korea and for the subtop there is much more money outside korea anyways.

Haypro is awesome. In the team league he is a beast. I love his style its aggressive and just awesome. Hes just been unlucky, like fruitdealer
WWJD (What Would Jaedong Do)
azarat
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia155 Posts
February 23 2011 13:38 GMT
#1953
On February 23 2011 22:02 Uraeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2011 21:39 Vaeila wrote:
On February 23 2011 21:23 Uraeus wrote:
On February 23 2011 21:20 zYwi3c wrote:
How did Haypro play ? couldnt watch ;<


Pretty well actually. Nice macro, nice reaction times, chose his engagements carefully.

Ganzi though, played a QXC-esque agressive style, dropping marines everywhere, forcing Haypro out of position, and out-multitasking him.
This led to Hayder losing many many expos and being starved to death.

No shame on Haypro, he just lost to a superior opponent.


How can you say he had nice reaction times when he lost 4 or 5 hatches without cancelling?


That's the "out-multitasked" part.
The hatches dying had nothing to do with reaction time whatsoever.

Yes he mostly had good reaction times, as he negated most drops Ganzi threw at him, what requires good reactions and mini-map awareness.
He did that while keeping decent macro too.

I guess this ate most of his APM though, as he was often out of position, he let hatcheries die, etc... He just couldn't be everywhere at hte same time, though I would bet my life he was aware of all that was happening.


Well, apart from reaction time, you could say it might have been a little deficiency of decision making on his part. Like, instead of seeing the attack on his expos and saying "ok, I can't defend that, I have to cancel" he kinda just... let them die. And it wasn't him rushing to their defense and only just missing out on defending them, they just straight up died.

Haypro's macro also slipped quite a bit during the games. He was quite high on money (I think I remember him being at around 3k minerals at one point and not maxed on Terminus) at times. Haypro definitely showed that he has potential, maybe his style or technique is weak against Ganzi's heavy aggression and drop play or he had a bad day, but that's kinda what you have to do in tournaments to progress to the end of them: be solid and consistent.
Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
February 23 2011 13:50 GMT
#1954
I felt that Haypro is too passive against Ganzi. In 2nd game, i think the outcome would be different if Haypro sit his 30 mutas in Ganzi base, but Haypro decides to call back his mutas.
... funerals are insane, the chicks are so horny, its not even fair, its like fishing with dynamite ...
dcberkeley
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada844 Posts
February 23 2011 13:56 GMT
#1955
It looks like there was no moderation this time around. So much balance garbage being posted despite there being a FUCKING WHITE SIGN ON THE TOP SAYING NO BALANCE WHINING.

Seriously, is this the fucking place for it? It's a LR thread. If I want to avoid random zerg qq I stay away from the strategy forum. And about the Kelly thing. She's awful IMO. But guess what, I don't need to say that in every LR thread I visit.

Why? The LR thread is for REPORTING THE FUCKING GAME. I swear, I need to read 5 full pages of people shitting on Terran and complaining about the casting before I get a minute of actual game content.

Thank you and kudos to people who actually described the game and a big fuck you to everyone who decided to talk about balance.
Moktira is da bomb
Bobble
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia1493 Posts
February 23 2011 13:59 GMT
#1956
Agreed. It is hard to sift through the posts to find out what is happening in the games, especially the Coca V Ace games. Everyone was so busy talking about Haypro (and who can blame you) that we missed most of the first game between Coca and Ace. I had no idea a game was even going on then.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
February 23 2011 14:02 GMT
#1957
I am still shocked that Sam likes bud light, out of all the great beers he can get in Korea...
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 14:08:55
February 23 2011 14:05 GMT
#1958
On February 23 2011 22:59 Bobble wrote:
Agreed. It is hard to sift through the posts to find out what is happening in the games, especially the Coca V Ace games. Everyone was so busy talking about Haypro (and who can blame you) that we missed most of the first game between Coca and Ace. I had no idea a game was even going on then.



1st game: CoCa did basically a good job in looking for conffrontation with the protoss army, also OL-dropping roaches here and there a few times.

After a few trade offs, the colossi count was diminished, and 4th protoss base denied, Coca overwhelmed with his upgraded roach/hydra army.

2nd game: early expo from protoss, very good reaction from zerg into hydra aggression into third base and corruptors. Then always denying protoss' third base and also killing off the collossi from time to time. Not cost-efficient trade-offs of armies but nevertheless nicely remaxing of units afterwards.

A very good example on how ZvP should be played imo, today's best games i think.
the game is the game
cArn-
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Korea (South)824 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-23 14:15:28
February 23 2011 14:14 GMT
#1959
On February 23 2011 21:55 Markwerf wrote:
Haypro is better off going home I think. He doesn't seem to be good enough for korea and for the subtop there is much more money outside korea anyways.


He is easily good enough to make it to the up & down matches for Code S, he's just really unlucky and even if he played very well his series, this GanZi guy is SICK good, absolutely no shame losing to him, cause he's gonna win Code A tournament. You read it here first.

Twitter : http://twitter.com/CARNDARAK
Rabbitmaster
Profile Joined August 2010
1357 Posts
February 23 2011 14:44 GMT
#1960
damn, overslept and missed the games :< too bad haypro lost
God is dead.
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