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On February 13 2011 03:24 The Icon wrote:
I've been really struggling with PvZ lately and was hoping i'd learn something from watching some of that matchup here at Assembly. Seems I'm not the only one having problems with it as every game I've seen the Protoss have just been getting smashed.
Adel should have won that game. All he had to do was retreat after dealing damage and expand. There was no way ret could have done anything had he done that. Losing his army was the mistake which allowed ret back in the game.
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On February 13 2011 03:21 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote:
ret is a beast indeed, but roaches just TOO cost efficient in this matchup.... oO
no joking -.- u can spam them like nothing else.
User was warned for this post
+1, this is the main problem that ive always brought up in the balance feedback emails.. z can get mapcontrol and exp so easily because roachs are so cost efficient
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On February 13 2011 03:25 Dave. wrote:Cross positions. ![[image loading]](http://threadbombing.com/data/media/2/THISGONBGUD.gif)
holy reT!
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Again, this isn't GSL, so it's cross positions! GSL must be cursed or something. This should be good. 
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On February 13 2011 03:25 Serashin wrote:
Ret might look very good in the eyes of a lot of people against Adel but adels desicion making is just bad attacking zerg early third while getting third and tech to collosi and his attack got not much reinforced aswell as no other attack point liek a proxy pylon to get that third and collosi tech going adel is greedy hopeing for bad oppenents thats why he wont win
Yea a player is never good. His opponent just plays badly.......
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On February 13 2011 03:24 Jayrod wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:22 SiguR wrote:On February 13 2011 03:21 Hirnfrost wrote:
adel played quite good actually.
he could have won that Agreed. I was worried for a while. I find that ret's play has very few holes in it compared to other players i watch. The big criticism against him was that he falls to All-ins alot... could be due to his powerdroining. 2 combat units at 7 minutes for example. If an attack pushes out if hes off a larva cycle, he can really be in trouble. He plays like EGmachine in terms of greed and macro style, but like 3 times better.
Yeah this has often been the case. Often if he gets to mid and late game he suddenly have a huge drone advantage and just roll his opponent. As a consequence of this he can lose early if he misreads his opponent.
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On February 13 2011 03:25 Azarkon wrote:
European Protoss players seem to have a lot of trouble with Zerg. Socke said it was his hardest match-up.
Now that I think about it, even in GTSL PvZ seemed a clutch match-up for both sides; PvT was where Protoss roflstomped all over the place.
The wierd thing is that Zergs are saying the opposite. ZvP usually are the matchup where they lose the most.
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On February 13 2011 03:23 HolydaKing wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:21 Rabbitmaster wrote:
Seriously, does khaldor actually breathe? Or does he saturate his blood with oxygen some other way? well he's an experienced caster  i remember him trying to cast the whole day at some kind of special event. he was casting a lot for wc3 and was the best german caster there as well. he also was the 4Kings (Grubby, ToD etc) manager after Nuke left them
Well after this event hes my favourite caster, rivaled only by day9 (and maybe maybe by tastosis when they are at their best). And i dont speak a word of german.
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On February 13 2011 03:22 Woony wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:21 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote:
ret is a beast indeed, but roaches just TOO cost efficient in this matchup.... oO
no joking -.- u can spam them like nothing else. You need Forcefields, without them you'll get overrun
This is true.
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On February 13 2011 03:27 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:25 Azarkon wrote:
European Protoss players seem to have a lot of trouble with Zerg. Socke said it was his hardest match-up.
Now that I think about it, even in GTSL PvZ seemed a clutch match-up for both sides; PvT was where Protoss roflstomped all over the place. The wierd thing is that Zergs are saying the opposite. ZvP usually are the matchup where they lose the most.
I think a lot if it has to do with people bandwagoning with IdrA. IdrA has always been, in some sense, the spokesperson of the Zerg side, and his first two Imbalance episodes all dealt with issues in PvZ.
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On February 13 2011 03:26 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:21 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote:
ret is a beast indeed, but roaches just TOO cost efficient in this matchup.... oO
no joking -.- u can spam them like nothing else.
User was warned for this post +1, this is the main problem that ive always brought up in the balance feedback emails.. z can get mapcontrol and exp so easily because roachs are so cost efficient
i love you.
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On February 13 2011 03:27 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:25 Serashin wrote:
Ret might look very good in the eyes of a lot of people against Adel but adels desicion making is just bad attacking zerg early third while getting third and tech to collosi and his attack got not much reinforced aswell as no other attack point liek a proxy pylon to get that third and collosi tech going adel is greedy hopeing for bad oppenents thats why he wont win Yea a player is never good. His opponent just plays badly.......
You could see a lot of people saying the same thing regarding Jinro when he won MLG and then after his first top placement in the gsl. Apparently that was mostly because of his weak opponents...
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Ret played well.
My only complaint was the lack of tower control, I felt like he wouldn't know when his opponent would push out, unless I was missing something.
Well played by both players, until Adel overextended. Hope he doesn't make the same mistake, for an even better game on cross meta (... with Ret winning again, of course)
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Come on adelscott you want to force field against the lings, yes you do ^^.
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On February 13 2011 03:26 TT1 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:21 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote:
ret is a beast indeed, but roaches just TOO cost efficient in this matchup.... oO
no joking -.- u can spam them like nothing else.
User was warned for this post +1, this is the main problem that ive always brought up in the balance feedback emails.. z can get mapcontrol and exp so easily because roachs are so cost efficient
user was warned for this post?
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Getting his third already. x_x
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On February 13 2011 03:27 Roggay wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:25 Azarkon wrote:
European Protoss players seem to have a lot of trouble with Zerg. Socke said it was his hardest match-up.
Now that I think about it, even in GTSL PvZ seemed a clutch match-up for both sides; PvT was where Protoss roflstomped all over the place. The wierd thing is that Zergs are saying the opposite. ZvP usually are the matchup where they lose the most.
On ladder i would say i loose the most, by far, to mass roach.
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On February 13 2011 03:29 The Icon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 13 2011 03:26 TT1 wrote:On February 13 2011 03:21 Tt|FaZiNaTe wrote:
ret is a beast indeed, but roaches just TOO cost efficient in this matchup.... oO
no joking -.- u can spam them like nothing else.
User was warned for this post +1, this is the main problem that ive always brought up in the balance feedback emails.. z can get mapcontrol and exp so easily because roachs are so cost efficient user was warned for this post?
yea i also found that odd 8D
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