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hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 29 2011 18:00 GMT
#261
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.

no...
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
January 29 2011 18:01 GMT
#262
I love non-Colossus play.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
gnutz
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany666 Posts
January 29 2011 18:01 GMT
#263
On January 30 2011 03:01 Brad wrote:
I love non-Colossus play.

White-Ra should really do it more.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 29 2011 18:02 GMT
#264
On January 30 2011 03:00 crappen wrote:
holy shit, bratok getting pissed on. How the hell can whitera have so much within just 13-14min? He have dropped, researched storm and chargelots, then just walked all over bratok.


Its just the result of excellent macro/CB use
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
teumas
Profile Joined July 2010
Sweden280 Posts
January 29 2011 18:03 GMT
#265
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.


Yes it is, but the likelihood is still very small. Hopefully he rolls somethings else, I really enjoy Tlo's zerg
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
January 29 2011 18:04 GMT
#266
On January 30 2011 03:03 teumas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.


Yes it is, but the likelihood is still very small. Hopefully he rolls somethings else, I really enjoy Tlo's zerg

I think what he means is that there's only one PPPPPP whereas there are many permutations of TPZTZP etc.
Still random is random.
RyanRushia
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2748 Posts
January 29 2011 18:04 GMT
#267
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.


actually kusto your very wrong with this

theres a 33.33% (repeating) percentage of getting any of the 3 races. getting protoss once doesnt change the percentages of the future race selection, so it will always be 33/33/33 for P/T/Z

therefore.. yizuo is right
I saw the angel in the marble and carved until I set him free. | coL.Ryan | www.twitter.com/coL_RyanR
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:06:42
January 29 2011 18:04 GMT
#268
lol, learn some math.. Of course its more likely to get TZTZTP then PPPPPP.. :D

edit: Its more likely to get some random races then 6xP.. That is what I mean.
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:07:41
January 29 2011 18:05 GMT
#269
On January 30 2011 03:03 teumas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.


Yes it is, but the likelihood is still very small. Hopefully he rolls somethings else, I really enjoy Tlo's zerg


Yes, the likelihood is very small. So what he said, "just as likely", is completely wrong.

I don't think the first poster in this chain understands what random means, though. PPPPPP is pretty unlikely, but it can happen.

Edit: Actually, I read the "question" wrong. Yes, PPPPPP is just as likely as PZPTZP or any other specific combination. But that's because we're talking specific combination.
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
January 29 2011 18:06 GMT
#270
On January 30 2011 03:04 Everlong wrote:
lol, learn some math.. Of course its more likely to get TZTZTP then PPPPPP.. :D

No, not if you take order into account. Getting any combination of T/Z/P is more likely than PPPPPP though
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
January 29 2011 18:06 GMT
#271
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.

Lol, to paraphrase someone How is it that people can say things with such conviction and still be totally wrong. Just so you know, getting P is 1/3. Getting PP is 1/3*1/3 = 1/9. Getting T is 1/3, getting Z is 1/3 ergo getting TZ is 1/3*1/3 = 1/9. Hopefully now you can see how PPPPPP has the same probability as TZTZTZ.
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:07:37
January 29 2011 18:06 GMT
#272
On January 30 2011 03:04 Everlong wrote:
lol, learn some math.. Of course its more likely to get TZTZTP then PPPPPP.. :D


This is either a really dedicated troll, or someone who isn't too confident on his statistics.
Finrod1
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany3997 Posts
January 29 2011 18:07 GMT
#273
When djwheat and wolf are going to cast the last rounds?
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
January 29 2011 18:07 GMT
#274
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.

I'm sorry but you're wrong.

pppppp = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3
tptztz = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3
any other combination = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3

maybe you're thinking of P('6 times protoss') and P('6 times no protoss') which are indeed different.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 29 2011 18:07 GMT
#275
On January 30 2011 03:05 Nimic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 03:03 teumas wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.


Yes it is, but the likelihood is still very small. Hopefully he rolls somethings else, I really enjoy Tlo's zerg


Yes, the likelihood is very small. So what he said, "just as likely", is completely wrong.

I don't think the first poster in this chain understands what random means, though. PPPPPP is pretty unlikely, but it can happen.

Any particular permutation is just as likely as any other permutation when talking about what random races you get.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
January 29 2011 18:07 GMT
#276
On January 30 2011 03:06 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 03:04 Everlong wrote:
lol, learn some math.. Of course its more likely to get TZTZTP then PPPPPP.. :D


This is either a really dedicated troll, or someone who isn't really confident on his statistics.


I edited my post, reread it please..
Burn2Memory
Profile Joined August 2010
United States574 Posts
January 29 2011 18:08 GMT
#277
Ugh there is no english cast covering white-ra? :'(
Nimic
Profile Joined September 2010
Norway1360 Posts
January 29 2011 18:09 GMT
#278
On January 30 2011 03:07 Jyvblamo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 03:05 Nimic wrote:
On January 30 2011 03:03 teumas wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.


Yes it is, but the likelihood is still very small. Hopefully he rolls somethings else, I really enjoy Tlo's zerg


Yes, the likelihood is very small. So what he said, "just as likely", is completely wrong.

I don't think the first poster in this chain understands what random means, though. PPPPPP is pretty unlikely, but it can happen.

Any particular permutation is just as likely as any other permutation when talking about what random races you get.


Yes, I edited my post realizing that's what the question was. But again, that's just because we're talking a specific combination.
Deleted User 108965
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1096 Posts
January 29 2011 18:09 GMT
#279
why has this turned into a math thread
Disciple....Top 3 control in Clarion County
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:11:19
January 29 2011 18:10 GMT
#280
On January 30 2011 03:07 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 03:06 n0ise wrote:
On January 30 2011 03:04 Everlong wrote:
lol, learn some math.. Of course its more likely to get TZTZTP then PPPPPP.. :D


This is either a really dedicated troll, or someone who isn't really confident on his statistics.


I edited my post, reread it please..


Unbelievable ) For the sake of humankind, I hope people are majorly trolling this thread (Everlong, I *think* I understand what you are trying to say, it's still worded 100% wrong though)

To quote from Kunni:

pppppp = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3
tptztz = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3
any other combination = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3

maybe you're thinking of P('6 times protoss') and P('6 times no protoss') which are indeed different.


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