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nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:11:17
January 29 2011 18:10 GMT
#281
On January 30 2011 03:07 Konni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.

I'm sorry but you're wrong.

pppppp = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3
tptztz = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3
any other combination = 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3

maybe you're thinking of P('6 times protoss') and P('6 times no protoss') which are indeed different.


Obviously that is what he meant...

It wouldn't make sense to discuss differently. Nobody would care if it's PZTPZT or PZTPZZ (or whatever) just that it isn't PPPPPP.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 29 2011 18:12 GMT
#282
In other news, White-Ra playing so well right now.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
January 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#283
Ye, I worded it really in a confusing way.. Konni's post is correct.
kusto
Profile Joined November 2010
Russian Federation823 Posts
January 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#284
3 times protoss out of three:
1/3 * 1/3 * 1/3

2 times protoss aout of three:
1/3 * 1/3 * 2/3

1 times protoss out of three:
1/3 * 2/3 * 2/3
the game is the game
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:14:19
January 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#285
On January 30 2011 03:04 Everlong wrote:
lol, learn some math.. Of course its more likely to get TZTZTP then PPPPPP.. :D


Take a course on probability and you would learn about probability on series of independent events and thus know that given three outcomes with equal chance, p, then any series of length k will have probability p^k to happen, ie. the outcome "TZTZTP" IS equally as likely as "PPPPPP".
What you are perhaps confusing it with is another thing entirely: "In 5 games in a row, is it as l ikely to get 5 P as it is to get at least 1 non P?" which the answer to is of course no.
edit: t_t somewhat beaten to it.
Yizuo
Profile Joined December 2004
Germany1537 Posts
January 29 2011 18:13 GMT
#286
Just saying that saying
"OMG, PPPPPP, Blizz fix random"
and
"OMG, TZPZTP, Blizz fix random"

would be equally stupid
Alou
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States3748 Posts
January 29 2011 18:14 GMT
#287
Guys, I get enough of math in my statistics course, can we please talk about how awesome White Ra is?
Life is Good.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:14:16
January 29 2011 18:14 GMT
#288
I don't understand how White-Ra manages to almost every PvT!
Feels so difficult for me ^^... White-Ra too good~
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
January 29 2011 18:14 GMT
#289
On January 30 2011 03:13 vilg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 03:04 Everlong wrote:
lol, learn some math.. Of course its more likely to get TZTZTP then PPPPPP.. :D


Take a course on probability and you would learn about probability on series of independent events and thus know that given three outcomes with equal chance, p, then any series of length k will have probability p^k to happen, ie. the outcome "TZTZTP" IS equally as likely as "PPPPPP".
What you are perhaps confusing it with is another thing entirely: "In 5 games in a row, is it as l ikely to get 5 P as it is to get at least 1 non P?" which the answer to is of course no.


You are right I worded it wrong, I meant something else - reread few posts above.. Anyway, well played White-ra, Sjow..
n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
January 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#290
WR-Bratok score? is it 1-0 atm?
sarge89
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway147 Posts
January 29 2011 18:15 GMT
#291
On January 30 2011 03:14 Alou wrote:
Guys, I get enough of math in my statistics course, can we please talk about how awesome White Ra is?


+1, get on chat or something to nerd over some math. Whitera HT drop!
super karate monkey death car
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#292
this series is fucking sick
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Dommk
Profile Joined May 2010
Australia4865 Posts
January 29 2011 18:16 GMT
#293
haha nice clutch archon morph by white-ra
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
January 29 2011 18:17 GMT
#294
White-ra is in a very good possition to take it 2-0..
Rabiator
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany3948 Posts
January 29 2011 18:17 GMT
#295
On January 30 2011 03:06 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 02:59 kusto wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:57 Yizuo wrote:
On January 30 2011 02:50 Rabiator wrote:
Dear TLO,

I hope you get something other than Protoss in your RANDOM games for the rest of the tournament (unless you want Protoss).


Dear Blizzard,

please fix the random selection so we dont see someone only get Protoss all through a tournament.


There is nothing wrong with the random selection.. You surely realize that PPPPPP is just as likely as TPZTZP or TZTZTZ or any other order.


No, it isn't. You are very wrong with this.

Lol, to paraphrase someone How is it that people can say things with such conviction and still be totally wrong. Just so you know, getting P is 1/3. Getting PP is 1/3*1/3 = 1/9. Getting T is 1/3, getting Z is 1/3 ergo getting TZ is 1/3*1/3 = 1/9. Hopefully now you can see how PPPPPP has the same probability as TZTZTZ.

The question isnt "getting order TZTZTZT" but rather "PPPPPP" or anything other than Protoss in any of these six matches. The likelyhood of getting T or Z in any of these is much bigger than a simple row of Protoss games. Sure every specific combination exists only once, but the point is getting NOT this PPPPPP row and that chance is much bigger.
If you cant say what you're meaning, you can never mean what you're saying.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-29 18:19:08
January 29 2011 18:17 GMT
#296
On January 30 2011 03:14 Welmu wrote:
I don't understand how White-Ra manages to almost every PvT!
Feels so difficult for me ^^... White-Ra too good~

The guy beat boxer and rolled tossgirl 2-0 in broodwar. enough said.
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
January 29 2011 18:18 GMT
#297
On January 30 2011 03:17 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 03:14 Welmu wrote:
I don't understand how White-Ra manages to almost every PvT!
Feels so difficult for me ^^... White-Ra too good~

The guy beat boxer and rolled tossgirl 2-0 in broodwar (she literally cried). enough said.

Boxer game is so legend... I have watched that game ~5 times :D
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
January 29 2011 18:19 GMT
#298
Whitera is a beast when he's on.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
January 29 2011 18:19 GMT
#299
Sick games from whitera.. Storm pretty much killed Bratok both games..
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 29 2011 18:19 GMT
#300
WHITE-RA WINS !
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
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