EPT[IEM] Drawing IEM World Championship Finals
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arctics86
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Shawngood
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The participants are Finalists from previous IEM's correct? | ||
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netherDrake
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edit: it's today, i look like an idiot now. | ||
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Sfydjklm
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On January 28 2011 00:48 netherDrake wrote: Would make sense to invite the first 4 GSL winners. edit: it's today, i look like an idiot now. No it wouldnt  Liveforever was top 4 and Rain placed 2nd lol.Times change and it would make more sense to invite top 4 from the curretnt GSL. Kkekeekekeke | ||
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netherDrake
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On January 28 2011 01:04 Sfydjklm wrote: No it wouldnt Liveforever was top 4 and Rain placed 2nd lol.Times change and it would make more sense to invite top 4 from the curretnt GSL. Kkekeekekeke Nestea/MC are still very relevant. MVP/MKP definitely better than FD now atm though. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On January 28 2011 01:12 netherDrake wrote: Nestea/MC are still very relevant. MVP/MKP definitely better than FD now atm though. Nestea is top 4 And i was more or less hinting @ gorilla terran!:D | ||
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Seronei
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lacho_u
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On January 28 2011 01:21 Seronei wrote: Hope no terrans from Korea, even though we wont have the best players there it should be more entertaining than having 80% terrans. you have a point. | ||
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vdale
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SmoKim
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On January 28 2011 00:22 Shawngood wrote: There won't be Korean qualifier. The four additional players representing Asia will be invited based on their success in other tournaments (GSL, BlizzCon). in that case you should invite 2 Protoss and 2 Zerg for a good balanced IEM finals  | ||
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Cadgers
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Xeris
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dtz
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Not sure how Sen lost to Loner though, probably dq-ed if he did not show up as you said. | ||
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Influ
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On January 28 2011 02:36 Xeris wrote: Anyone know what happened in IEM Southeast Asia? I see moonglade in that , but I know Sen was in the 8 man tournament, but he seemed to not be given any info so I'm wondering if he played / lost, or just was replaced due to not showing up? He lost to Loner in the Chinese/Taiwan qualifier and Loner lost today to moonglade. €: i'm sad now | ||
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mdma-_-
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On January 28 2011 02:36 Xeris wrote: Anyone know what happened in IEM Southeast Asia? I see moonglade in that , but I know Sen was in the 8 man tournament, but he seemed to not be given any info so I'm wondering if he played / lost, or just was replaced due to not showing up? Moonglade won the sea tournemant over redarchon. Loner won the china/taiwann tournement over Sen. Moonglade beet Sen in the Grand Finals. (3-1) | ||
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SmoKim
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and Moonglade beat Loner huh, interesting, was curious why i hadn't seen SEn's name | ||
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MrSpider
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Also MVP, MKP, MC, Nestea wont be at 100%, the cash prizes and the glory are just so small compare to GSL. It will be better to invite great names of the top code A player or middle code S player like Boxer, Nada, July, Moon, Clide, Inca, Check or others to make it more challenging. And this will be funny to watch : how Sjow, Tarson, White-ra and Demuslim will face them, they are the top european and I think they will have a chance.(but not against MC, MVP, etc...) BLizzard didn't made a mistake when they invited Maka and Genius(who are good players but not the best korean), they were superior in the whole tournament but had quite difficulties versus Select, White ra and Loner. | ||
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SmoKim
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On January 28 2011 03:12 MrSpider wrote: If they invite the best of the Korean top programers like MVP, MKP, MC, Nestea it will be a massacre, they are too strong. Also MVP, MKP, MC, Nestea wont be at 100%, the cash prizes and the glory are just so small compare to GSL. It will be better to invite great names of the top code A player or middle code S player like Boxer, Nada, July, Moon, Clide, Inca, Check or others to make it more challenging. And this will be funny to watch : how Sjow, Tarson, White-ra and Demuslim will face them, they are the top european and I think they will have a chance.(but not against MC, MVP, etc...) BLizzard didn't made a mistake when they invited Maka and Genius(who are good players but not the best korean), they were superior in the whole tournament but had quite difficulties versus Select, White ra and Loner. they were not invited, but qualifed through a Blizzard Tournament, infact all the rest of Blizzcon players were invites, but not the 2 koreans | ||
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1Eris1
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dtz
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And Europe has 4 slots while NA has only 2 so i don't think you can compare it that way. That's just how it is allocated. | ||
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MrSpider
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On January 28 2011 03:17 SmoKim wrote: they were not invited, but qualifed through a Blizzard Tournament, infact all the rest of Blizzcon players were invites, but not the 2 koreans Hmm strange, are you sure? http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcon/tournaments/starcraft.xml "We’ve also invited 16 of the top StarCraft II players in the world to participate in the first-ever BlizzCon StarCraft II Invitational" | ||
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Sfydjklm
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On January 28 2011 03:21 MrSpider wrote: Hmm strange, are you sure? http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcon/tournaments/starcraft.xml "We’ve also invited 16 of the top StarCraft II players in the world to participate in the first-ever BlizzCon StarCraft II Invitational" yes, fairly sure u can find it in TLPD. | ||
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mdma-_-
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On January 28 2011 03:12 MrSpider wrote: If they invite the best of the Korean top programers like MVP, MKP, MC, Nestea it will be a massacre, they are too strong. Also MVP, MKP, MC, Nestea wont be at 100%, the cash prizes and the glory are just so small compare to GSL. It will be better to invite great names of the top code A player or middle code S player like Boxer, Nada, July, Moon, Clide, Inca, Check or others to make it more challenging. And this will be funny to watch : how Sjow, Tarson, White-ra and Demuslim will face them, they are the top european and I think they will have a chance.(but not against MC, MVP, etc...) BLizzard didn't made a mistake when they invited Maka and Genius(who are good players but not the best korean), they were superior in the whole tournament but had quite difficulties versus Select, White ra and Loner. blizzard didnt invite maka and genius, they qualified through a qualifier between the top 12 (?) ladder players. Also they were not rly "superior". (Esp. not Maka loosing to Sen and Whitera.) I guess with 30k+ prizemoney, they wont have the hardest time convincing top koreans to go to germany. Ofc the koreans will be highly favoured, but th forigners might surprise. | ||
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shaunnn
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mcc
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On January 28 2011 01:04 Sfydjklm wrote: No it wouldnt Liveforever was top 4 and Rain placed 2nd lol.Times change and it would make more sense to invite top 4 from the curretnt GSL. Kkekeekekeke 3 more terrans noooo )But I think last two GSL's would be a good pick, but that would still be 3 more terrans in already terran dominated tournament, on the other hand what other criteria can be used. | ||
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KiNGxXx
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shaunnn
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group a) qxc morrow tarson white-ra+ 2 koreans group b) fenix moonglade demuslim and sjow + 2 koreans are sc2 groups | ||
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Seronei
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Group A: qxc MorroW Tarson White-Ra Group B: Fenix mOOn-glAde DeMusliM SjoW Korean players will be announced later. | ||
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SmoKim
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On January 28 2011 03:42 Seronei wrote: Starcraft 2 groups! Group A: qxc MorroW Tarson White-Ra Group B: Fenix mOOn-glAde DeMusliM SjoW Korean players will be announced later. thank god MorroW and Moonglade is in seperate groups | ||
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Seronei
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On January 28 2011 05:08 SmoKim wrote: thank god MorroW and Moonglade is in seperate groups Might actually be bad since it reduces the chances of seeing a zerg make it past the group stage. | ||
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ineedadrink
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HeroHenry
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On January 28 2011 05:11 Seronei wrote: Might actually be bad since it reduces the chances of seeing a zerg make it past the group stage. That's true but I hope they invite some Korean zergs since only one zerg actually won the qualifier. | ||
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MoreFaSho
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On January 28 2011 05:11 Seronei wrote: Might actually be bad since it reduces the chances of seeing a zerg make it past the group stage. Even if you're a zerg player (I am), stop rooting for zerg players in tournaments, it's bad for your health. Not all the defenses for zerg are worked out well so any zerg can lose against almost anybody in 1 or 2 games, like PvP but with all 3 match-ups. | ||
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Shinta)
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You end up with 2 of the best zergs in Korea, yet both weaker than..... The best toss in Korea and the best Terran in Korea. Having 2 would make up for them being good but not as good. | ||
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norlock
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On January 28 2011 06:29 Shinta) wrote: Actually I'd totally be fine with inviting all of the GSL winners. You'd have 2 Zerg FD and NesTea; 1 toss MC; and 1 Terran MVP/MKP. You end up with 2 of the best zergs in Korea, yet both weaker than..... The best toss in Korea and the best Terran in Korea. Having 2 would make up for them being good but not as good. Isn't that still going to be one sided victory for Korea? I think they want a balanced tournament with not a clear winner. Adding top of the top koreans can make it really grim. | ||
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Shinta)
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RedArchon and iceiceice were also chosen to go to the grand finals after getting 1st and 2nd in the SEA Blizzcon Invitational which of course is meant to serve as a qualifier for the grand finals. Every region afaik had a Regional Blizzcon Invitational in which Blizzard invited the top ladder players to claim themselves regional champions and qualify themselves for the Global Finals. I do know however that this year Blizzard was slow and late in their preparations, and thus some of the regional championships such as the LA Blizzard Invitational were held even after Blizzcon so Blizzard just guessed who they thought would have won the tournament if they had done it on time. They guessed Fenix and Capoch, thus those two players went to Blizzcon, however the real results ended up being dKilleR 1st and Fenix 2nd, so speaking truly, KilleR was denied his spot because Blizzard was behind schedule with their regional invitationals and guessed that KilleR wasn't as good as Capoch. The reason they call it the Blizzcon Invitational is not because there were no qualifiers, it's because there is supposed to be an Invitation ONLY qualifier for each region, in which people earn an invitation by performing well in their server's ladder. I'm not sure if the US and EU invitationals were held before or after Blizzcon, and I'm also not sure Asia had an invitational at all (I would guess that they did and I didn't look into it and thus didn't hear about it) but I'm sure next year the system will work properly and what I explained above will be carried out properly. | ||
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CS 1.6 Group A TyLoo compLexity TCM-Gaming Meet Your Makers Frag eXecutors mTw Group B TBD Evil Geniuses SK Gaming Lions Na`Vi fnatic Quake Live Group A k1llsen strenx Vo0 DaHang fazz av3k Group B czm Cooller Cypher Spart1e rapha Dandaking Both ridiculous, particularly the B groups. http://www.hltv.org/news/6103-iem5-world-cship-group-draw http://www.esreality.com/?a=post&id=2026857 | ||
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SmoKim
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On January 28 2011 03:21 MrSpider wrote: Hmm strange, are you sure? http://us.blizzard.com/blizzcon/tournaments/starcraft.xml "We’ve also invited 16 of the top StarCraft II players in the world to participate in the first-ever BlizzCon StarCraft II Invitational" http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=154069 here you go | ||
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mdma-_-
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On January 28 2011 06:49 Shinta) wrote: RedArchon and iceiceice were also chosen to go to the grand finals after getting 1st and 2nd in the SEA Blizzcon Invitational which of course is meant to serve as a qualifier for the grand finals. Every region afaik had a Regional Blizzcon Invitational in which Blizzard invited the top ladder players to claim themselves regional champions and qualify themselves for the Global Finals. I do know however that this year Blizzard was slow and late in their preparations, and thus some of the regional championships such as the LA Blizzard Invitational were held even after Blizzcon so Blizzard just guessed who they thought would have won the tournament if they had done it on time. They guessed Fenix and Capoch, thus those two players went to Blizzcon, however the real results ended up being dKilleR 1st and Fenix 2nd, so speaking truly, KilleR was denied his spot because Blizzard was behind schedule with their regional invitationals and guessed that KilleR wasn't as good as Capoch. The reason they call it the Blizzcon Invitational is not because there were no qualifiers, it's because there is supposed to be an Invitation ONLY qualifier for each region, in which people earn an invitation by performing well in their server's ladder. I'm not sure if the US and EU invitationals were held before or after Blizzcon, and I'm also not sure Asia had an invitational at all (I would guess that they did and I didn't look into it and thus didn't hear about it) but I'm sure next year the system will work properly and what I explained above will be carried out properly. there were no qualifiers for EU/Russia/US. They just invited who they thought would be the best. | ||
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qxc
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Alphaes
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On January 28 2011 06:33 norlock wrote: Isn't that still going to be one sided victory for Korea? I think they want a balanced tournament with not a clear winner. Adding top of the top koreans can make it really grim. Well, it also decreases the legitimacy of this as a world championship of sorts if you intentionally don't invite the top players from a certain region. | ||
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NesTea = Most definitely the best zerg in the world, there's none like him. MVP = Best player right now, his decision making is insane and his mechanics are also at the top, plus, he's been on fire for a very long time now MKP = 2nd best terran in the world, and he has spiced up his marine play quite a bit MC = He's so calm about decision making, pushing mostly at correct timings with the right compositions, he'll be very hard to beat for anyone. | ||
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zerious
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On January 28 2011 08:19 mordk wrote: Well, nestea has already proven that he can only drop games against MVP, while MVP has a 92% win rate against terrans (which make the majority of top-level euro players), MC has insane play in all matchups and MKP, well, his marines are imba. I think they should invite them, since they are the 4 best koreans right now, but in that case we should be prepared for some korean ownage in the tournament. NesTea = Most definitely the best zerg in the world, there's none like him. MVP = Best player right now, his decision making is insane and his mechanics are also at the top, plus, he's been on fire for a very long time now MKP = 2nd best terran in the world, and he has spiced up his marine play quite a bit MC = He's so calm about decision making, pushing mostly at correct timings with the right compositions, he'll be very hard to beat for anyone. You basically picked the line up that is going to kill the foreign terrans, lol | ||
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Carmac
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On January 28 2011 03:18 1Eris1 wrote: Hmm, interesting they allow QXC (2nd place at NYC) but not IdrA, 2nd place Cologne. Any reason? Only a Global Challenge winner can qualify directly to the IEM World Championship. The rest need to go through their respective Continental Championships to qualify. Two slots were assigned to the Americas, four to Europe and five to Asia. | ||
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SmoKim
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On January 28 2011 18:26 Carmac wrote: Only a Global Challenge winner can qualify directly to the IEM World Championship. The rest need to go through their respective Continental Championships to qualify. Two slots were assigned to the Americas, four to Europe and five to Asia. so will this mean that there will also be a Global Challenge at Cologne in august together with the IEM world Championship in March? i thought that those 2 were the same thing, but i would love if it was 2 events instead | ||
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On January 28 2011 18:28 Toxi78 wrote: wow QL group B...cypher/coolller/rapha epic! This, with the korean sc2-players not being announced yet, I'm actually more excited about the QL groups right now lol. Having cooller vs rapha already in the groupstages will be amazing, although I have to admit I would've liked to see cooller vs strenx, hehe. | ||
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bmml
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On January 28 2011 18:31 SmoKim wrote: so will this mean that there will also be a Global Challenge at Cologne in august together with the IEM world Championship in March? i thought that those 2 were the same thing, but i would love if it was 2 events instead They are indeed 2 different events. I'm not sure if IEM do it every year but they held two global challenge last season at gamescom / in Shanghai. | ||
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mdma-_-
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On February 07 2011 02:49 TheLight wrote: Anyone else going to Hanover for this? I'm going to be hopping over for a few days from London. For anyone who's ever been to an ESL live event, is there any way to listen to the English cast or is it just in German? i think day9 and rotterdam will be casting on english at the venue. At least at gamescom the cast was in english. | ||
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On February 07 2011 02:49 TheLight wrote: Anyone else going to Hanover for this? I'm going to be hopping over for a few days from London. For anyone who's ever been to an ESL live event, is there any way to listen to the English cast or is it just in German? I´ve been at gamescom in cologne and the cast was english (day9+d.apollo), perhaps rotterdam+someone will cast english this time. Would make sense to me as they recently picked up rotti. Would love to go to Hannover, but i´m not sure yet. | ||
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On February 07 2011 03:05 TheLight wrote: If anyone is looking for accommodation, I know of a few places which as of yesterday still had bed and breakfast single rooms for around 50-70 euro a day. Or just go couchsurfin, it's way cheaper | ||
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zerious
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On February 08 2011 07:08 SmoKim wrote: any info on when the Korean Qualifers will be ?another thread stated that there will be no qualifiers, instead there will be 4 invites. | ||
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ptbl
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MorroW
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On February 16 2011 05:21 ptbl wrote: The IEM championship dates, March 1st - 5th directly conflicts with GSL. You can see the schedule here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=193300. I don't think IEM will be able to get top level koreans to attend the championship. thats awesome news. LOL | ||
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godemperor
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I guess you now have a higher chance of winning a lot of $$! | ||
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hifriend
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Was kinda looking forward to seeing your sweet Z style go up against some koreans, but oh well. I'll be rooting for you! | ||
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SmoKim
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coward if everything with korean invites goes wrong, maybe IEM could invite US/EU players instead, hopefully with some balanced race invites ^___^ | ||
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CryMeAReaper
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qxc
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ArchEnemy
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On February 16 2011 05:21 ptbl wrote: The IEM championship dates, March 1st - 5th directly conflicts with GSL. You can see the schedule here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=193300. I don't think IEM will be able to get top level koreans to attend the championship. This could also mean Moonglade may not be able to attend IEM. IF he wins his round of 32 match in the GSL code A, then the round of 16 match would be played on either the 2nd or 4th of March which is right smack bang in the middle of the IEM tournament. | ||
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ptbl
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On February 16 2011 08:45 ArchEnemy wrote: This could also mean Moonglade may not be able to attend IEM. IF he wins his round of 32 match in the GSL code A, then the round of 16 match would be played on either the 2nd or 4th of March which is right smack bang in the middle of the IEM tournament. Woah, you're right. I'm pretty sure Moonglade would pick the GSL over IEM. Potentially, there won't be an Asian/SEA contingent at IEM. | ||
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Elasticity
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On January 28 2011 00:19 Shawngood wrote: No, they will be at CeBIT in Hanover, Germany. March 1st - 5th. How much money does it cost to buy a ticket to get in? Btw, as I searched in Google maps, there are 3 locations of CeBIT in Hannover, in which arena will the tournament be held? Can you tell me that a bit more clearer? (I live in Hannover, so I just want to meet Day9 there xD) | ||
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Kreb
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Any word on the price money for this? Or the korean players.... | ||
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zere
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If you want to see any of these players, you have to hope for them (lol) to a) lose their groups, b) be invited, and c) willing to leave Korea and to accept the invite, all of which on an extremely short notice. Same goes for the losers of Code A Ro32; anyone who wins Ro32 will surely not participate since to the Koreans (and most of us, frankly) GSL is the bigger (Code S) and/or more important (shot for Code A/S up+down) tournament. It's a shame, really, but you can blame no one. Dates of bigger tournaments, eSports or not, always have collided and always will collide, since booking of the place and stage have to be planned at least months prior to the event. The good news is that we can hope for players like ST_Bomber or NEXPuzzle to get an invite. | ||
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Kreb
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Im hoping they either invite more EU/US players or just make it an 8player tournament. Having 4 random koreans (which obviously still will be really good players, but hardly earned their spot) come simply because "they were the only ones who could make the schedule" is pretty terrible when EU/US players had to go through qualifiers. At least if it would be top koreans it would be based on their previous success in other tournaments, but if it just random koreans who had a few free days in their schedule i'd rather go with more EU/US players or with an 8player tourny. At least that would be fair. | ||
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RotterdaM
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, the IEM Global finals is a _HUGE_ event for ESL and hopefully its gonna be huge for everyone who enjoys e-sports/sc II ;P | ||
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Bobble
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On February 16 2011 10:10 ptbl wrote: Woah, you're right. I'm pretty sure Moonglade would pick the GSL over IEM. Potentially, there won't be an Asian/SEA contingent at IEM. Yep, being as they only had one invite for Asia/SEA, and both of the finalists are in the GSL, my hopes weren't high of seeing any Asia/SEA people in the IEM. | ||
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GTR
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 Ace and Squirtle from Startale and  Moon have been invited to the IEM finals. | ||
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SmoKim
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On February 16 2011 23:27 GTR wrote: According to PlayXP, Ace and Squirtle from Startale and Moon have been invited to the IEM finals.Ace and Squirtle should be exiting Moon(if it's true) is gonna make ALOT of contraversy | ||
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ptbl
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On February 16 2011 23:27 GTR wrote: According to PlayXP, Ace and Squirtle from Startale and Moon have been invited to the IEM finals.So, are they going to withdraw out of Code A? | ||
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hegeo
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Just wanted to give some advice to those of you living in Germany: The company "PEARL" gives away free CeBIT tickets on their website, so it won´t cost you like 40€ to see SC2, just 5€ of postal charges. | ||
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-Archangel-
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On February 16 2011 23:27 GTR wrote: According to PlayXP, Ace and Squirtle from Startale and Moon have been invited to the IEM finals.That is 3. We still need a 4th. | ||
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On February 19 2011 00:38 -Archangel- wrote: Oh yea, how come Europe got 4 places (with morrow basically 5) and north and south america only 2? Wouldn't 3/3 be more fair? It has something to do with that regions placing in last years grand final, not sure how they decided how to do with SC2 though as it was released this year. | ||
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mdma-_-
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On February 16 2011 23:57 ptbl wrote: So, are they going to withdraw out of Code A? i am sure the ESL and the GSL can arrange smth together for the players to play their gsl games a few days earlier or later. Prizemoneys out btw: Starcraft 2 (30.000 US-Dollar): * Platz 1: 13.000 US-Dollar * Platz 2: 6.500 US-Dollar * Platz 3: 4.000 US-Dollar * Platz 4: 2.500 US-Dollar * Platz 5/6: 800 US-Dollar * Platz 5/6: 800 US-Dollar * Platz 7/8: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 7/8: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 9/10: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 9/10: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 11/12: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 11/12: 400 US-Dollar | ||
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On February 19 2011 01:01 mdma-_- wrote: i am sure the ESL and the GSL can arrange smth together for the players to play their gsl games a few days earlier or later. Prizemoneys out btw: Starcraft 2 (30.000 US-Dollar): * Platz 1: 13.000 US-Dollar * Platz 2: 6.500 US-Dollar * Platz 3: 4.000 US-Dollar * Platz 4: 2.500 US-Dollar * Platz 5/6: 800 US-Dollar * Platz 5/6: 800 US-Dollar * Platz 7/8: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 7/8: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 9/10: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 9/10: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 11/12: 400 US-Dollar * Platz 11/12: 400 US-Dollar NICE Prizepool :D! | ||
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TheRPGAddict
United States1403 Posts
On January 28 2011 08:19 mordk wrote: Thats just cruel for the foreigners MVP would just about crush every Terran which is the majority of the tournament, and NesTea has the best ZvZ in the world. Lol. Quake Live group B is insane, I still follow that scene. I really really hope for more zergs though. Well, nestea has already proven that he can only drop games against MVP, while MVP has a 92% win rate against terrans (which make the majority of top-level euro players), MC has insane play in all matchups and MKP, well, his marines are imba. I think they should invite them, since they are the 4 best koreans right now, but in that case we should be prepared for some korean ownage in the tournament. NesTea = Most definitely the best zerg in the world, there's none like him. MVP = Best player right now, his decision making is insane and his mechanics are also at the top, plus, he's been on fire for a very long time now MKP = 2nd best terran in the world, and he has spiced up his marine play quite a bit MC = He's so calm about decision making, pushing mostly at correct timings with the right compositions, he'll be very hard to beat for anyone. | ||
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rozero1234
United States35 Posts
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Dodgeball
Finland141 Posts
Like these guys for example: DongRaeGuProS, ST_Bomber, IMYoDa, NEXPuzzle, oGsJ, oGsHerO etc.. | ||
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bronzeterran
United States296 Posts
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Niick
Australia426 Posts
On February 20 2011 15:08 rozero1234 wrote: why the fuck are these stream links so hard to find. i know these tournaments are going on, but it takes me ten minutes to find the damned link Dude it's not for another 10 days, calm the fuck down. On February 20 2011 16:06 bronzeterran wrote: they really shouldn't be calling this a world championsip American's cannot criticise any World Championships, you name every god damn final in your own leagues the world championship. | ||
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bokchoi
Korea (South)9498 Posts
On February 16 2011 23:27 GTR wrote: According to PlayXP, Ace and Squirtle from Startale and Moon have been invited to the IEM finals.Pretty disappointing .. (not that there's anything wrong with Squirtle, Ace, or Moon [all great players in their own right]), but if they were gonna do direct-invites I'm sure people expected them to be the best of the best. I guess a scheduling conflict can't be helped, but I wonder what Squirtle, Ace, and Moon plan to do about GSL then. I don't think any of them would like to go through quals again. EDIT: Or even then invite IdrA as a Korean player. I mean yeah technically he isn't a Korean, but he's been playing in Korea with relative success and was unable to play in the USA quals due to the time issue. | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
On February 19 2011 00:38 -Archangel- wrote: Oh yea, how come Europe got 4 places (with morrow basically 5) and north and south america only 2? Wouldn't 3/3 be more fair? NA usually get less spots than EU and Asia for all their games because :/ you know, skill level. Only Quake Live gets a decent number of spots because of Rapha and DaHanG. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
Caster announcement(with a little video from them all) | ||
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Brad
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On February 20 2011 16:48 bokchoi wrote: Pretty disappointing .. (not that there's anything wrong with Squirtle, Ace, or Moon [all great players in their own right]), but if they were gonna do direct-invites I'm sure people expected them to be the best of the best. I guess a scheduling conflict can't be helped, but I wonder what Squirtle, Ace, and Moon plan to do about GSL then. I don't think any of them would like to go through quals again. EDIT: Or even then invite IdrA as a Korean player. I mean yeah technically he isn't a Korean, but he's been playing in Korea with relative success and was unable to play in the USA quals due to the time issue. there's still one open spot and rotterdam hinted at not all of the players being actual koreans in one of his posts here on TL iirc... | ||
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Miragee
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Vehemus
United States586 Posts
On February 20 2011 16:37 Niick wrote: Dude it's not for another 10 days, calm the fuck down. American's cannot criticise any World Championships, you name every god damn final in your own leagues the world championship. It's actually only for leagues or sports that America invented or plays exclusively without competition from the rest of the world. Generally. | ||
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Sobba
Sweden576 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On February 21 2011 01:04 Miragee wrote: Does anyone know about at which time the games will take place on the different days? I'm looking for to visit the cebit, so it would be cool to be there at the right time. http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/ i'm pretty sure they'll put a schedule up there at some point | ||
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cold-
Canada209 Posts
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TheLight
Australia410 Posts
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Cyberus
Germany148 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On February 21 2011 03:24 Cyberus wrote: no in the video they actually said they will invite 4 players "currently living in korea" not "korean players". I really hope Idra gets an invite. I will be at cebit and it would be awesome to see him play time will tell | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 21 2011 02:36 Sobba wrote: There is no reason not to give Idra 1 spot. The fact that he tried to qualify in the US qualifiers and didn't should mean he can't get in the back door. If he is invited anyway it's a disgrace to be honest. | ||
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Rakkat
United Kingdom69 Posts
On February 22 2011 02:55 dignitasNewmaN wrote: The fact that he tried to qualify in the US qualifiers and didn't should mean he can't get in the back door. If he is invited anyway it's a disgrace to be honest. IIRC he didn't try to qualify and pulled out due to conflicts with the GSL. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
von Carmac333 We are announcing the Korean invitees for the @IntelEM World Ch. live on the show in just over 30 minutes! www.esl.tv #iem vor 34 Minuten (twitter) so about right now | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:00 MxW wrote: IIRC he didn't try to qualify and pulled out due to conflicts with the GSL. He did play a number of qualifying cups to enter the IEM America group stages, lost to Silver in one of them. (Might have been just one cup, dont remember and the ESL site is shit ;(). Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see Idra in the IEM but he should qualify like everyone else, not so great when one of the biggest esports organisations are playing favorites with some teams and players... | ||
motbob
United States12546 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:09 motbob wrote: Second invitee: FOXMOON no ST_Ace was the second one | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
edit: oh sry doublepost ( | ||
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
I MISSED AN INVITE WHAT ST.Ace is somewhere in there. | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
so squirtle, ace and moon don't miss their code A either | ||
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Karthane
United States1183 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:12 Karthane wrote: So wait, Idra yes or no? I'm confused yes. | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:12 dignitasNewmaN wrote: ESL - Fair and balanced still bitching about idra? | ||
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Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
Yeah, I'm actually surprised I'm the only one reacting as well. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
And in all honesty at least top 2 of IEM cologne shoulda gotten invites, it was the highest level foreign competition to date. | ||
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:26 dignitasNewmaN wrote: Yeah, I'm actually surprised I'm the only one reacting as well. he got 2nd in gamescom. Only inviting the winner from cologne was ridiculous in the first place. I am by no means an idra fan, but he is a solid choice to invite. | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:31 ptbl wrote: People shouldn't complain about Idra getting an invite. He's a GSL player (or was). He deserves it on that merit alone. Well, there's a lot of GSL players, you can't invite them all, so that's a pretty lame reason. The fact that he got second at Cologne is much more deserving. | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:30 mdma-_- wrote: he got 2nd in gamescom. Only inviting the winner from cologne was ridiculous in the first place. I am by no means an idra fan, but he is a solid choice to invite. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there skill wise, he could probably win it all if he is in shape. The big picture though, do we not want our esport leagues and tournaments to actually follow their own rules, spirit of competition and fair play? Atleast in the long run. For esports to grow bigger we need this to happen. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:30 mdma-_- wrote: he got 2nd in gamescom. Only inviting the winner from cologne was ridiculous in the first place. I am by no means an idra fan, but he is a solid choice to invite. Yeah, I'm sure they would've invited Code S players if they weren't busy with GSL and IdrA didn't have the chance to qualify in the American qualifiers. He's probably the best choice. | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:30 GP wrote: Moon seems like an odd choice. He's a petty mediocre player overall, hell Lyn would have been a much better choice. Of all the players they could have invited, Moon? As it seems GOM was only willing to reschedule Code A. Moon may not be the best player in Code A, but he still has a huge fanbase from WC3. | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:33 Influ wrote: I think dignitasNewmaN is kind of right on that but tbh that shouldn't be that big of a deal. This is the first season for SC2 in IEM and everything is abit chaotic in the first season of course. Idra is for sure no scrub who will get rolled over in group stage and he is also no terran so I'm fine with his invite. I agree, it's not a massive deal The reason I'm fired up is that it's getting worse. Lots of smaller occurances by the ESL now, keeps sliding downhill. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:30 GP wrote: Moon seems like an odd choice. He's a petty mediocre player overall, hell Lyn would have been a much better choice. Of all the players they could have invited, Moon? Lyn is in Code S now and Carmac said it is impossible for Code S player to go to IEM because of scheduling at GSL... That's why IdrA is the only Code S player, he wouldn't have participated anyway. For Code A player GSL was able to reschedule it so they could participate though. While Moon might not be the best Code A player either he is going to bring many Warcraft 3 fans to watch the IEM stream I guess... might be a reason, maybe? On February 22 2011 03:33 GP wrote: Well, there's a lot of GSL players, you can't invite them all, so that's a pretty lame reason. The fact that he got second at Cologne is much more deserving. He's the most accomplished of all the available GSL players though. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:33 GP wrote: Well, there's a lot of GSL players, you can't invite them all, so that's a pretty lame reason. The fact that he got second at Cologne is much more deserving. Well, he's probably the biggest name that IEM could get out of the GSL players. After all, Idra is pulling out of korea and moving back to the states. | ||
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GP
United States1056 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:37 FliedLice wrote: Lyn is in Code S now and Carmac said it is impossible for Code S player to go to IEM because of scheduling at GSL... That's why IdrA is the only Code S player, he wouldn't have participated anyway. For Code A player GSL was able to reschedule it so they could participate though. While Moon might not be the best Code A player either he is going to bring many Warcraft 3 fans to watch the IEM stream I guess... might be a reason, maybe? Yeah of coarse, sorry must have missed the bit about Code S. I always feel wary about inviting the popular players over the better players, but I guess they've got to do what they've got to do. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
As already said, they can NOT invite code S players due to schedule conflicts. As Idra does not play now, they can invite him and get the best players possible. Pretty sure Idra is better than most code A players. TSL invites where much more dodgy imo. | ||
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Doraemon.doraemon
United States335 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:12 dignitasNewmaN wrote: ESL - Fair and balanced screw fair and tournament rules lol... now that idra is in, i'm actually gonan watch this thing now... | ||
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shell
Portugal2722 Posts
Because he got 2nd place in gamescon, is the "best" foreign zerg, is out of GSL now, GSL code S can't be changed because it's a group and it would mess with 4 players! so no nestea, fruitdealer, check etc.. etc.. it's fair, balanced and inteligent to get idra! well done by ESL Sorry NewmaN but in my opinion there is nothing to talk about.. esl did the right choice! Squirtle and Ace are also very good and can take this tournament if they perform! | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
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Karthane
United States1183 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:33 dignitasNewmaN wrote: I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there skill wise, he could probably win it all if he is in shape. The big picture though, do we not want our esport leagues and tournaments to actually follow their own rules, spirit of competition and fair play? Atleast in the long run. For esports to grow bigger we need this to happen. Or rather, if you want more people to watch your tournament, you should probably invite one of the best Zerg players in the world, and definitely one of the most deserving. Which in turn helps esports grow. | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38198 Posts
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:33 dignitasNewmaN wrote: I'm not saying he doesn't deserve to be there skill wise, he could probably win it all if he is in shape. The big picture though, do we not want our esport leagues and tournaments to actually follow their own rules, spirit of competition and fair play? Atleast in the long run. For esports to grow bigger we need this to happen. There's no denying that the best SC2 players in the world are in Code S of the GSL. Unfortunately, their schedule can't be changed because it would affect 4 players. Fortunately for IEM, Idra is withdrawing, so they seized the opportunity and invited him. Idra is one of the best players in the world, why not invite him? He automatically becomes the favorite to win IEM. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:51 Asha` wrote: Good choices, some exciting players but perhaps not too much of a class above (there's a lot to be said for consistancy) so it should still be interesting. Idra a strong favourite depending on maps? Is IEM going to use GSL maps? I don't think it's fair if they have steppes, blistering sand, etc in the map pool. IEM has been in contact with the GSL, so maybe they'll use their maps? | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
It's just a ladder thing, who even cares about that? That being said though, rooting for Morrow vs Idra finals. On February 22 2011 03:55 ptbl wrote: Is IEM going to use GSL maps? I don't think it's fair if they have steppes, blistering sand, etc in the map pool. IEM has been in contact with the GSL, so maybe they'll use their maps? afaik they'll use at least some of the iccup maps | ||
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Doraemon.doraemon
United States335 Posts
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:54 ptbl wrote: There's no denying that the best SC2 players in the world are in Code S of the GSL. Unfortunately, their schedule can't be changed because it would affect 4 players. Fortunately for IEM, Idra is withdrawing, so they seized the opportunity and invited him. Idra is one of the best players in the world, why not invite him? He automatically becomes the favorite to win IEM. GSL has got nothing to do with this, Idra shouldn't have been invited because he alread tried to qualify but didn't. There were lots of players to choose from but ESL went the "easy" route and picked Idra, flushing their integrity down the drain at the same time. | ||
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brentsen
1252 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:55 ptbl wrote: Is IEM going to use GSL maps? I don't think it's fair if they have steppes, blistering sand, etc in the map pool. IEM has been in contact with the GSL, so maybe they'll use their maps? On the other hand it would be bad for all the other qualifiers as they probably couldn't get enough serious training on those maps. I don't think they will use them. I like the choices overall. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On February 22 2011 03:55 ptbl wrote: Is IEM going to use GSL maps? I don't think it's fair if they have steppes, blistering sand, etc in the map pool. IEM has been in contact with the GSL, so maybe they'll use their maps? They have started using 2 iccup maps a while ago in their weekly cups and stuff. But I wouldn't be surprised if they finished the running IEM season with the current laddermaps, maybe even Kulas and Desert Oasis? I can't remember how they handled IEM Kiew, but I'd guess(!) they're going to use the same at Cebit they used in Kiew. If they were going to use the GSL maps they would've announced that already I think, otherwise it wouldn't be fair for the foreigners (except IdrA and Moonglade) because they have 0 practice on those maps... Squirtle would GSTL all over them | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
· Blistering Sands · Jungle Basin · Scrap Station · Steppes of War · Xel'Naga Caverns · Delta Quadrant · Lost Temple · Metalopolis · Shakuras Plateau There's the map pool according to the official rules, found at http://gfx.esl-europe.net/gfx/media/masters/rulebook/Intel_Extreme_Masters_SeasonV_Rulebook.pdf The left player in the match details on the ESL website will decide which player starts the map elimination process. The players then take turns eliminating maps from the pool until 3 maps are left. The player who started he elimination process will pick the first map to be played. The other player will pick the second map. The last map will be used as decider map if needed. So this means we're going to be seeing a lot of Xel'Naga Caverns, Metalopolis, and Shakuras Plateau. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:02 motbob wrote: · Blistering Sands · Jungle Basin · Scrap Station · Steppes of War · Xel'Naga Caverns · Delta Quadrant · Lost Temple · Metalopolis · Shakuras Plateau There's the map pool according to the official rules, found at http://gfx.esl-europe.net/gfx/media/masters/rulebook/Intel_Extreme_Masters_SeasonV_Rulebook.pdf That's a horrible map pool... | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
I'm sure they're going to change it up next season. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:04 FliedLice wrote: I'm sure they're going to change it up next season. I just don't understand why ESL can't change it in mid-season? The GSL changed their map pool without any hiccups. | ||
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
On the maps: I really hope they will use the current ESL map pool. Shawn if you read this...don't stick to the old maps, this time there are zergs in the tourney and I don't want to be drowned in zerg tears. | ||
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Doraemon.doraemon
United States335 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:00 dignitasNewmaN wrote: GSL has got nothing to do with this, Idra shouldn't have been invited because he alread tried to qualify but didn't. There were lots of players to choose from but ESL went the "easy" route and picked Idra, flushing their integrity down the drain at the same time. i understand by the letter it might be unfair to other players... but as a fan and spectator... IEM gained whole bunch of points by inviting Idra.. i couldn't care less about their integrity lol as long they have players i like to watch... | ||
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TheLight
Australia410 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Weavel
Finland9221 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:05 ptbl wrote: Yeah and they did it after the season ended...I just don't understand why ESL can't change it in mid-season? The GSL changed their map pool without any hiccups. | ||
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:09 motbob wrote: I PMed Carmac about the map pool for the world championship BTW, so we might see an official statement soon! right now he has some other problems^^ | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:09 Weavel wrote: Yeah and they did it after the season ended... GSL tournament spans a year. For more info check out http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=190136 | ||
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Jungosi
Germany186 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:04 FliedLice wrote: I'm sure they're going to change it up next season. Just please reach some sort of agreement with the GSL so that the ESL can use their maps. It would really help SC2 on a global scale, plus the GSL would also benefit from it. On the invites : Idra - Loving it. By far the best player available. Squirtle and Ace - Very solid invites. I am really, really exited. Moon - Somewhat similar to the TSL-Invite for Boxer. You get a great player who is a absolutely iconic figure in e-sports as a whole. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
yeah rofl, was just about to say he's getting his ass handed to him on the ladder :D | ||
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Ikuu
United Kingdom97 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:00 dignitasNewmaN wrote: GSL has got nothing to do with this, Idra shouldn't have been invited because he alread tried to qualify but didn't. There were lots of players to choose from but ESL went the "easy" route and picked Idra, flushing their integrity down the drain at the same time. Who should they have invited instead? IdrA is the best player they could get and it would be foolish not to try and get him. | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:14 Ikuu wrote: Who should they have invited instead? IdrA is the best player they could get and it would be foolish not to try and get him. They could have picked a bronze player from the Korean ladder for all I care, that is not the point. | ||
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Sorkoas
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Neverplay
Austria532 Posts
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:20 dignitasNewmaN wrote: They could have picked a bronze player from the Korean ladder for all I care, that is not the point. As long as you are just speculating that IdrA took part in one or more US qualifiers your argument has absolutely NO meaning to it. Only if you know you can state something like you are trying to do now aka "IdrA took part in qualifiers and failed which means he should not be invited over someone who didn't even take part in a qualifier but is insanely good as well. But that aside - I also agree that inviting IdrA is the right choice of ESL. | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:24 mTw|NarutO wrote: As long as you are just speculating that IdrA took part in one or more US qualifiers your argument has absolutely NO meaning to it. Only if you know you can state something like you are trying to do now aka "IdrA took part in qualifiers and failed which means he should not be invited over someone who didn't even take part in a qualifier but is insanely good as well. But that aside - I also agree that inviting IdrA is the right choice of ESL. He did take part in the US qualifiers, that is a fact. Edit: Proof http://www.nationalesl.com/us/player/3606178/ | ||
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Sweden4672 Posts
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Tokay
Sweden115 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:33 nam nam wrote: What are you guys talking about? Invites are never "fair" towards other players. No, but it can be made more fair if you invite someone who did not fail to qualify. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:29 dignitasNewmaN wrote: He did take part in the US qualifiers, that is a fact. Edit: Proof http://www.nationalesl.com/us/player/3606178/ Thats true that its not too fair. Now its up for the others to decide if its okay or not. For me personally it is okay, since IdrA just deserves this spot. | ||
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:33 nam nam wrote: What are you guys talking about? Invites are never "fair" towards other players. These invites were meant for Korean players since they didn't have any qualifier for them. Idra however did get the chance to qualify, twice. That's why it doesn't make sense (for some of us) to invite him. | ||
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Seronei
Sweden991 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:29 dignitasNewmaN wrote: He did take part in the US qualifiers, that is a fact. Edit: Proof http://www.nationalesl.com/us/player/3606178/ Thought he were in Korea by then but apparently not, as he was in the American qualifier it's definitely very weird to invite him and very rude to the players who actually qualified. | ||
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thOr6136
Slovenia1775 Posts
- JangJae ' Moon' Ho- Greg ' IdrA' Fields- Park HyuN ' Squirtle' Woo - Jung Woo ' Ace'' Seosource | ||
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Jerax
Canada189 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:44 Seronei wrote: Thought he were in Korea by then but apparently not, as he was in the American qualifier it's definitely very weird to invite him and very rude to the players who actually qualified. He qualified for NA finals but could not attend due to other commitments in Korea. If he failed to qualify because of lack of skill that's one thing, but if he didn't qualify due to not being able to make it to NYC, that's quite another. | ||
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Nachor
Germany83 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:44 Seronei wrote: Thought he were in Korea by then but apparently not, as he was in the American qualifier it's definitely very weird to invite him and very rude to the players who actually qualified. To be fair, Idra withdrew from the US Qualifiers, so technically he didn't 'fail' to qualify. Source: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/IEM_Season_V_US_-_Regular_Season_Cup#Results | ||
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Sorkoas
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Doraemon.doraemon
United States335 Posts
weren't there like 4 or so online qualifiers where the top 4? or so qualify for an online group stage, then the top 2 guys from the each group go to a live lan in IEM new york? idra never won an online qualifier, he famously lost to silver in one of them, but after some drama about match reporting, he eventually qualified for the online group stage... but when it's time to play the group stage to qualify for the live event, he did a no show cuz he thought IEM new york conflicted with gsl or something... and bubba replaced him... then fenix and qxc took 1st and 2nd in IEM new york and qualified for NA.... so technically, idra never "failed" to qualify... not saying for sure he would have made it out of group stage if he played or won 1st or 2nd over fenix and qxc in new york either so since they are doing directly invites from korea.... inviting idra is perfectly fine and a very good choice for the fans...yup | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
Doesn't matter how he went out of the American qualifier, what matters is that he was participating. You can't just take part in a qualifier and not qualify and then get invited anyway, it's not fair to other Korean sc2 players nor is it fair to other American and European players. Personally I find inviting players to the IEM World Finals by itself being quite pathetic, everyone from the American and European qualifiers have been playing both online and offline since September(!) to qualify for these finals. Just because the ESL dont have the manpower or resources to do Korean qualifiers doesnt mean they should just invite whoever they want. On top of that they invite someone who has already tried to qualify... | ||
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Sweden576 Posts
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SilverJohnny
United States885 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:48 Dia wrote: StarCraft II Invites from Korea - JangJae ' Moon' Ho- Greg ' IdrA' Fields- Park HyuN ' Squirtle' Woo - Jung Woo ' Ace'' Seosource Interesting choice of Moon and Ace imo, perhaps some stronger players declined. sad to see no Korean t's invited though (was holding out for bitbybit myself!) | ||
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oursblanc
Canada1450 Posts
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RageBot
Israel1530 Posts
Glad to see Squirtle and IdrA though | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Raysalis
Malaysia1034 Posts
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
Same goes for Moonglade. Win their place in code A and withdraw? | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
If a Code S player chose to come to the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship and missed a Code S match, he would automatically find himself in Code A. Therefore we were not able to invite any of the Code S players. | ||
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
On February 22 2011 05:48 Carmac wrote: Code A players will have their matches rescheduled in the GSL so that they are able to participate in our event. (Thank you again, GSL.) If a Code S player chose to come to the Intel Extreme Masters World Championship and missed a Code S match, he would automatically find himself in Code A. Therefore we were not able to invite any of the Code S players. omg...I'm really biased towards ESL and I care way less then everyone else about GSL but automatically Code A seems retarded even if I try to lay my bias asaid as much as I can. | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On February 22 2011 05:48 Carmac wrote: Code A players will have their matches rescheduled in the GSL so that they are able to participate in our event. (Thank you again, GSL.) Well, that's good news. I thought their schedule was set in stone. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:50 Jerax wrote: OP update with korean invites plz. yes please do that OP | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
On February 22 2011 06:02 Influ wrote: omg...I'm really biased towards ESL and I care way less then everyone else about GSL but automatically Code A seems retarded even if I try to lay my bias asaid as much as I can. I don't know what you'd expect from a tournament organizer that's putting that kind of cash out there. Considering Code S players are getting ~1500 USD just for making it to the Ro32 or Ro16 that would be a considerable investment lost on Gom's part. They need to have some kind of safeguard to make sure that money isn't just getting up and walking away from their tournament without any games being played. | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
Group A  QXCMorroWWhite-RaTarsonIdrAAceGroup B FenixmOOnGLaDeDeMusliMSjoWMoonSquirtleImo Morrow, Whit-Ra and Idra will advance in Group A. For Group B i'd predict Squirtle, Moonglade and Sjow to pull though : > | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On February 22 2011 07:14 mdma-_- wrote: korean invites have been placed into groups! Group A QXCMorroWWhite-RaTarsonIdrAAceGroup B FenixmOOnGLaDeDeMusliMSjoWMoonSquirtleImo Morrow, Whit-Ra and Idra will advance in Group A. For Group B i'd predict Squirtle, Moonglade and Sjow to pull though : > interesting groups | ||
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walklightwhat
Australia752 Posts
Actually, it is the other way round. We told IdrA that he could not qualify in the US qualifier (the admins had unfortunately overseen that and allowed him in, at first), because he was not an American resident at the time, which is a condition for qualifying from there. Being resident of Korea makes him eligible only for Asian qualifiers. And Global Challenges like gamescom have no influence on the continental championships, they are open for anyone. Lots of European CS teams played in Shanghai and later in Kiev. This was said in a comment replying to Newman. | ||
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hugman
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-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
I hope for a rematch between Idra and Morrow in the finals :D | ||
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raser
Norway301 Posts
On February 22 2011 20:01 hugman wrote: IdrA and some Code-A players invited, but not Jinro? =X i doubt jinro would want to leave now that code-s is starting up again, also idra vs morrow! going to be awesome | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:45 syllogism wrote: Newman sure is bitter about this. I assume now that you've been proven wrong, you have no issue with this. Stop trolling. Newman hasn't even replied since your last post. Plus he is right. Idra did participate in the qualifier. Doesn't matter if he didnt play all games. | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
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Bru
Sweden184 Posts
Now that MVP is knocked out of the gsl why not try to get him over instead? Would be totaly amazingMod edit for GSL spoilers User was warned for this post | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
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MapleLeafSirup
Germany950 Posts
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On February 22 2011 21:54 Sorkoas wrote: Stop trolling. Newman hasn't even replied since your last post. Plus he is right. Idra did participate in the qualifier. Doesn't matter if he didnt play all games. He posted this, among other things, on the ESL site No you are wrong, he did compete in the US qualifiers. It's all there on the NationalESL page, that's a fact. Disgraceful behaviour by the ESL, your reputation is slipping and sliding. Quite rude, especially coming from Dignitas team manager. Indeed, if he wasn't the dignitas team manager I'd assume it has something to do with idra's comments regarding Morrow. Regardless, it clearly has more to do with his animosity towards idra than any genuine objection towards the way the invitations were handed out. | ||
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ptbl
United States6074 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:16 Bru wrote: Now that MVP is knocked out of the gsl why not try to get him over instead? Would be totaly amazingNice spolier... Mod edit: sorry had to hijack post to put spoiler tags in | ||
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plainsane
Germany98 Posts
Also is DeMusliM playing with a broken hand? | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On February 22 2011 07:14 mdma-_- wrote: korean invites have been placed into groups! Group A QXCMorroWWhite-RaTarsonIdrAAceGroup B FenixmOOnGLaDeDeMusliMSjoWMoonSquirtleImo Morrow, Whit-Ra and Idra will advance in Group A. For Group B i'd predict Squirtle, Moonglade and Sjow to pull though : > If White-ra plays his A game (does not do some typical duckload stuff like storming his own units out of nowhere ) I would more expect him, Ace and Idra to advance. Mostly because of Morrow's bad ZvZ. White-ra has in my opinion best European PvZ thanks to him doing big variety of things in that MU, which does not allow zergs to blindly go pure macro and his PvT is pretty solid if he does not do strange things Ace is just solid, stable Protoss with good PvT and PvZ. And Idra is good and has better ZvZ than Morrow.But frankly players are all very good and it can be anyone's game. The only players that are slight favourites for me now are Squirtle (if he keeps his sick play from GSTL) and White-Ra(if he plays like that week he won 3 tourneys). So Squirtle it is probably. | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
The invitation process (=us talking to the players themselves) started around two weeks before the invitations were actually announced. The teams have been booking flights as early as last week. So the date of the announcement is not tied to when we actually invited the players. Waiting to see if top players would be available after the Ro32 was also not something that we were allowed to do by our logistic limitations (as well as the possibility of skyrocketing flight prices this close to the event). Oh, and it would be quite rude to tell one of those four players that they can't come because a top player got knocked out of the GSL ;-) | ||
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote: ^Lol he said Idra participated and lost which he clearly didn't, added to which he was second at Cologne which is probably more deserving of a spot of some of the people who qualified by coming 3rd-4th in the Euro Quals at Kiev, especially considering both the 3rd and 4th place were AT Cologne and didn't make it as far as Idra...you seem more like the troll than syllogism tbh He clearly did participate. It's like saying Artosis didn't participate either just because he also gave some defwin. The fact is still there. There was an American qualifcation for this which Idra was registered to. If he decides GSL is more important to focus on that's his choice. You can't just suddenly count him as a Korean when they didn't have any chance to qualify at all while Idra had multiple to opportunities to do so by being American and also attending IEM Cologne. On February 22 2011 22:26 syllogism wrote: He posted this, among other things, on the ESL site Quite rude, especially coming from Dignitas team manager. Indeed, if he wasn't the dignitas team manager I'd assume it has something to do with idra's comments regarding Morrow. Regardless, it clearly has more to do with his animosity towards idra than any genuine objection towards the way the invitations were handed out. If he's posting on the ESL site why do you reply to him here? | ||
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aoe2fan
Sweden700 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On February 22 2011 22:16 Bru wrote: Now that MVP is knocked out of the gsl why not try to get him over instead? Would be totaly amazingSomeone please BAN HIM | ||
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wopaahh
150 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:26 syllogism wrote: He posted this, among other things, on the ESL site Quite rude, especially coming from Dignitas team manager. Indeed, if he wasn't the dignitas team manager I'd assume it has something to do with idra's comments regarding Morrow. Regardless, it clearly has more to do with his animosity towards idra than any genuine objection towards the way the invitations were handed out. not the first time ive seen an organisation nitpicking and/or bashing another organisation then bringing up the cliched "good for esports" speech, when his own behaviour is way worse | ||
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blae000
Norway1640 Posts
Looking forward to this.. ^^ edit: typo | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:56 Sorkoas wrote: He clearly did participate. It's like saying Artosis didn't participate either just because he also gave some defwin. The fact is still there. There was an American qualifcation for this which Idra was registered to. If he decides GSL is more important to focus on that's his choice. You can't just suddenly count him as a Korean when they didn't have any chance to qualify at all while Idra had multiple to opportunities to do so by being American and also attending IEM Cologne. So I take it you still didn't read this Actually, it is the other way round. [We told IdrA that he could not qualify in the US qualifier (the admins had unfortunately overseen that and allowed him in, at first), because he was not an American resident at the time, which is a condition for qualifying from there. Being resident of Korea makes him eligible only for Asian qualifiers. And Global Challenges like gamescom have no influence on the continental championships, they are open for anyone. Lots of European CS teams played in Shanghai and later in Kiev. | ||
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On February 22 2011 23:11 syllogism wrote:So I take it you still didn't read this Helps if you post source you know. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
You can do it Morrow! | ||
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wopaahh
150 Posts
if you know there is conversation about this on esl site why not check it (olololo) | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
It was quoted on the previous page, as was the source (...According to Storch [Tournament director] at the ESL site), which made it trivial to find http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/news/150963/ | ||
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Canada265 Posts
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ste0731
United Kingdom435 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:58 aoe2fan wrote: + Show Spoiler + On February 22 2011 22:16 Bru wrote: Now that MVP is knocked out of the gsl why not try to get him over instead? Would be totaly amazingSomeone please BAN HIM Why quote it then and not put the GSL spoiler in a spoiler! | ||
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iAmBiGbiRd
Australia1029 Posts
On February 22 2011 22:56 Sorkoas wrote: He clearly did participate. It's like saying Artosis didn't participate either just because he also gave some defwin. The fact is still there. There was an American qualifcation for this which Idra was registered to. If he decides GSL is more important to focus on that's his choice. You can't just suddenly count him as a Korean when they didn't have any chance to qualify at all while Idra had multiple to opportunities to do so by being American and also attending IEM Cologne. If he's posting on the ESL site why do you reply to him here? Did you even read my own or any other posts correctly, or are you just too stubborn to get it through your thick head? Idra began participating but was then dissallowed to continue due to his residence in Korea IE HE DID NOT PARTICIPATE AND LOSE. True that means he obviously didn't win but no-one here said that, and all i stated was that as runner up at Cologne, which featured both Tarson and DeMuSliM and yet they get third-fourth respectively at a different event and thus gain entry, should mean he gets a shot. In conclusion i think Idra's invite is more than justified and anyone who doesn't like it, well then we must agree to disagree. Also in before "Idrafanboy" gets attached to me, i play protoss and don't particularly follow Idra much at all but it pisses me off when people refuse to follow simple logic because they have a dislike for someone who ironically enough they never have and never will meet. | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
First of all as most of you seem to think I've got something against Idra, that is bullshit. Idra is a great player and if he was to finish a qualifier most likely would have qualified. Second, Idra going to Hannover is GOOD for dignitas as we don't have to play vs him in our GCPL match vs EG this weekend Hearing ESL's reason behind their decision I still feel they are kinda rationalizing now when being critized, it never really should have come to this point. Idra never should have signed up for the US qualifiers but he did and ESL admins should have stopped him. Both Idra and ESL are to blame. Also, with Idra moving FROM Korea why is he eligable for the Korean invite? ;pPpP The reason I was somewhat harsch in my statements was because I wanted a reaction from the ESL, didnt want this to just slip by everyone. ESL is a major force in esports and we should hold them to an extremely high standard, especially as they hold players and teams to a high standard. They have been doing a great job, being the pinnacle of western esports but lately I keep hearing bad things about their operations. | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
The Intel Extreme Masters at its core consists of the European Championship, Asian Championship*, American Championship (note: both Americas). On top of those three stands the World Championship. Your standard way of qualifying for the IEM World Championship is via your Continental Championship - you need to finish top 2 (America), top 4 (Europe), top 5 (Asia).** Global Challenges are invitational best-of-the-best "addon" events - only the winner gets a slot. ------------ It was actually partially our error that Greg played in the American Championship in the first place. The IEM eligibility rule changed in between season four and the current fifth season (now it's only decided by where you live, not by your passport). Around the start of the season we had new partners come in to run ESL in North America and with us having to start an American Championship sooner than planned, Greg kinda fell through the cracks. I hope this puts an end to what I find a moot discussion. + Show Spoiler + *note: replaced by a Souteast Asian qualifier and Korean invites this season) **note: based on the IEM continental ranking + arbitrary judgment of the continent's strength based on known results (in the case of a new game) | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:47 dignitasNewmaN wrote: Also, with Idra moving FROM Korea why is he eligable for the Korean invite? ;pPpP Because he has lived in Korea for the past few years and actually at the time of the invitation (2 weeks ago) he still was residing in Korea. The reason I was somewhat harsch in my statements was because I wanted a reaction from the ESL, didnt want this to just slip by everyone. It's enough to send me a PM if you have doubts. No use trying to cause a stir just to get noticed. | ||
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dignitasNewmaN
Sweden137 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:52 Carmac wrote: Because he has lived in Korea for the past few years and actually at the time of the invitation (2 weeks ago) he still was residing in Korea. It's enough to send me a PM if you have doubts. No use trying to cause a stir just to get noticed. Yeah just wanted to do a joke on the nitpicking I was accused of earlier Transparency for teh win, it's great that you come here to explain why you did what you did. Next time I might send a PM instead, we'll see | ||
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Sorkoas
549 Posts
On February 23 2011 00:02 iAmBiGbiRd wrote: Did you even read my own or any other posts correctly, or are you just too stubborn to get it through your thick head? Idra began participating but was then dissallowed to continue due to his residence in Korea IE HE DID NOT PARTICIPATE AND LOSE. True that means he obviously didn't win but no-one here said that, and all i stated was that as runner up at Cologne, which featured both Tarson and DeMuSliM and yet they get third-fourth respectively at a different event and thus gain entry, should mean he gets a shot. In conclusion i think Idra's invite is more than justified and anyone who doesn't like it, well then we must agree to disagree. Also in before "Idrafanboy" gets attached to me, i play protoss and don't particularly follow Idra much at all but it pisses me off when people refuse to follow simple logic because they have a dislike for someone who ironically enough they never have and never will meet. Yeah I miss reading a quote because I thought I had read all comments in the thread and didn't see that something else was quoted so that makes me thick headed and suddenly you get the right to insult me. Well at least you got something to back up your silly opinions about Idra deserving this spot with a story that none of us actually knew about. Good for you. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
Is there a difference between premium member and suscriber? I have no idea wether I have to pay or not. | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
On February 23 2011 02:27 Influ wrote: http://www.esl.eu/eu/tv_offer/ Is there a difference between premium member and suscriber? I have no idea wether I have to pay or not. If you already have Premium you're all set! | ||
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Finrod1
Germany3997 Posts
edit:... found it: SC2 $ 13,000 $ 6,500 $ 4,000 $ 2,500 $ 800 $ 800 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 | ||
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Hirnfrost
Germany938 Posts
video from TaKeTVTaKeSeN watch @03:25 for Ben | ||
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shaunnn
Ireland1230 Posts
On February 23 2011 09:19 Hirnfrost wrote: chances are 50/50 that demuslim is going to play video from TaKeTVTaKeSeN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1JAlixDdZw watch @03:25 for Ben I love the fact that even top/pro players like demuslim and rotti are just as massive fanboys of sc2 that I am, makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside about sc2:D edit* Just bought the HD pass so pumped for this, hope white-ra and fenix destroy the koreans | ||
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doihy
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Shawngood
Germany473 Posts
On February 22 2011 04:07 Influ wrote: On the maps: I really hope they will use the current ESL map pool. Shawn if you read this...don't stick to the old maps, this time there are zergs in the tourney and I don't want to be drowned in zerg tears. The mappol will be updated for the world championship and will look like this: - Blistering Sands - Delta Quadrant - Metalopolis - Lost Temple - Scrap Station - Shakuras Plateau - Xel'Naga Caverns While we are trying out new maps in Go4SC2 currently I don't really want to experiment too much with them in a tournament like this. Please keep in mind that each player will be able to veto two of those maps in groupstage (only one in playoffs since it's Best-of-Five then) so we will most likely see a lot of Shakuras/Metalopolis/x. While this might be a bit boring to some, those maps are arguably the most balanced ones. With the possibilty of vetoing maps like BS, SS and DQ you don't need to play on maps that favour a race in a certain matchup. I agree that having Kulas, Steppes and Desert Oasis through the whole EU championship was rather stupid. We will adapt the mappool a lot more in the future - we already introduced rules for that in the German ESL Pro Series. | ||
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duckii
Germany1017 Posts
On February 23 2011 09:19 Hirnfrost wrote: chances are 50/50 that demuslim is going to play video from TaKeTVTaKeSeN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1JAlixDdZw watch @03:25 for Ben wow that scar looks scary. get well soon Ben | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On February 23 2011 09:16 Finrod1 wrote: What is the prizepool? Looking forward to this. the production value from esl is always top notch edit:... found it: SC2 $ 13,000 $ 6,500 $ 4,000 $ 2,500 $ 800 $ 800 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 $ 400 man even fourth place get's a loaded with money =O awesome!, should add this to the OP | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
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TheLight
Australia410 Posts
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Influ
Germany780 Posts
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/schedule/ | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On February 24 2011 07:25 Influ wrote: Schedule is online now! http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/schedule/ what it's a 5 days event? and it's in 5 days? maybe it's time to get this thread featured with updates so we can get the hype train started | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
By the way, what's the format for semi's and finals? Bo3/Bo5/Bo7? Can't seem to find that info... | ||
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syllogism
Finland5948 Posts
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On February 24 2011 16:57 Carmac wrote: Playoffs are bo5 always. Thx, cool icon btw | ||
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Sierra Leone1660 Posts
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Lambertus
South Africa966 Posts
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AmiPolizeiFunk
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OTL
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On February 24 2011 16:57 Carmac wrote: Playoffs are bo5 always. Does that include grand finals? | ||
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Germany148 Posts
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
On February 24 2011 08:24 SmoKim wrote: what it's a 5 days event? and it's in 5 days? maybe it's time to get this thread featured with updates so we can get the hype train started Those dates can't be right It's drawn out over a whole month | ||
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OminouS
Sweden1343 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:04 hugman wrote: Those dates can't be right It's drawn out over a whole month ? No, I think that schedule is correct, having an offline event for a month sounds highly ineffective. | ||
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hugman
Sweden4644 Posts
Did you check the schedule? http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/sc2/groupstage/results | ||
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Ketch
Netherlands7285 Posts
On February 24 2011 17:50 Lambertus wrote: I#m so pumped! Definitly wanna go, but only saw it right now! Anybody nows what the costs for the CeBit are? Or are there seperated entrencaces for the IEM? It's been mentioned before, but: 1. Look on google for cebit freikarten 2011. 2. You'll find sites with codes you can enter on the Cebit website 3. Search till you find a working code 4. Profit (Save 34/38 euro don't know exactly) It worked for me this way | ||
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TheBanana
Norway2183 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:24 hugman wrote: Yes that's what I mean Did you check the schedule? http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/sc2/groupstage/results Just look here, these dates are right: http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/schedule/ | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
On February 24 2011 22:04 hugman wrote: Those dates can't be right It's drawn out over a whole month remember that Day9 is in Germany these days, and will be next week. So yes it is in 5 days from now | ||
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m3rciless
United States1476 Posts
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arctics86
Germany797 Posts
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TheValley
Poland56 Posts
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PartyBiscuit
Canada4525 Posts
On February 25 2011 00:09 arctics86 wrote: Now that Socke is replacing DeMusliM, the final has perfect race balance Very sad for DeMu, but this is a great outcome. Side note, I think it's interesting that the 2 of the Koreans are no longer even Code A at this point, so hopefully the Euros can power through a lot of them. | ||
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TheValley
Poland56 Posts
On February 25 2011 00:28 PartyBiscuit wrote: I think it's interesting that the 2 of the Koreans are no longer even Code A at this point, so hopefully the Euros can power through a lot of them. no, my point is this: they HAVE TO LOSE their games to go to IEM | ||
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KiNGxXx
7928 Posts
On February 25 2011 00:09 arctics86 wrote: Now that Socke is replacing DeMusliM, the final has perfect race balance Just read that he will replace Demuslim. Awesome for him! ofc it's bad luck for Demuslim but it isn't a surprise that it's too early for him. | ||
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On February 25 2011 00:31 TheValley wrote: no, my point is this: they HAVE TO LOSE their games to go to IEM Thats false. Carmac stated earlier that GOM agreed to reschedule the Code A matches of the players attending Cebit. Thus, if Moonglade and Squirtle win in the ro32, their ro16 games will be played at a different date. | ||
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Cocacooh
Norway1510 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
HAHAHA, best IEM teaser ever xD lmao Rotterdam | ||
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Carmac
Poland375 Posts
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DennizR
Sweden653 Posts
Predicting: Ace, White-Ra, MorroW in group 1Squirtle, SjoW, Socke in group 2 | ||
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Daray
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that teaser is awesome :D | ||
bkrow
Australia8532 Posts
Awesome groups - some big names! I hope mOOnGLaDe can mix it up with the best that would be so so awesome! | ||
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shaunnn
Ireland1230 Posts
On February 25 2011 08:14 bkrow wrote: Am i missing something really obvious or are important details like date/stream etc missing from the OP? Awesome groups - some big names! I hope mOOnGLaDe can mix it up with the best that would be so so awesome!This thread was initially only about the groups being picked, wasnt intended to be a full on discussion/hype thread about IEM finals but it turned out that way i guess | ||
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arctics86
Germany797 Posts
http://esfiworld.com/sc2/feature/iem-3-days-qxc-white-ra-morrow http://esfiworld.com/sc2/feature/iem-3-days-idra-ace-tarson they also give away ten premium keys for the event http://esfiworld.com/news/win-1-10-esl-tv-premium-keys-iem-finals | ||
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TheValley
Poland56 Posts
On February 25 2011 00:53 mdma-_- wrote: Thats false. Carmac stated earlier that GOM agreed to reschedule the Code A matches of the players attending Cebit. Thus, if Moonglade and Squirtle win in the ro32, their ro16 games will be played at a different date. now we will never know! all 3 Koreans + moonglade are out GSL. Then Korea send to Europe some trash, not even Coda A players any more... One think we should take in consider is: IdrA resigned form GSL and $1300 to play IEM. | ||
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Mandalor
Germany2362 Posts
On February 25 2011 21:09 TheValley wrote: now we will never know! all 3 Koreans + moonglade are out GSL. Then Korea send to Europe some trash, not even Coda A players any more... One think we should take in consider is: IdrA resigned form GSL and $1300 to play IEM. Squirtle and Ace definitely aren't trash. | ||
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Belgium864 Posts
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TheValley
Poland56 Posts
On February 25 2011 21:14 phisku wrote: No terran from korea, i think if IdrA stop having his bad mindset he can absolutly take it. i hope morrow kick his ass in group stage! | ||
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Skiba
Germany153 Posts
http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/news/151279/ | ||
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brentsen
1252 Posts
On February 25 2011 21:14 phisku wrote: No terran from korea, i think if IdrA stop having his bad mindset he can absolutly take it. Also Ace and Squirtle were quite disappointing in Code A. So it's pretty much open. | ||
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On February 25 2011 21:25 TheValley wrote: i hope morrow kick his ass in group stage! his zvz looked very limited and gimmicky vs ret. and idra really is a beast zvz nowadays so i doubt it. | ||
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readme
Austria76 Posts
ofc i bought the HD Stream | ||
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Cyberus
Germany148 Posts
Group A: Idra Whitera Ace/morrow Group B: Squirtle Sjow Socke What do you guys think ? | ||
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Bellygareth
France512 Posts
Predictions : Group A White-Ra IdrA QXC In that order Group B Socke mOOnGLaDe Moon In that order. Idra loses to white-ra /Qxc and wins everything else White-ra wins everything except one Terran irrelevant who Group B is random fest of Code-A worthy games making predicting the outcome hard. | ||
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
But of course I hope they will reshape and show their A-game. | ||
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kyla
198 Posts
On February 26 2011 06:17 Redox wrote: I think you guys are are rating Socke somewhat too high. He has not been in that good shape recently. Same is true for Sjow though. But of course I hope they will reshape and show their A-game. won against Huk and morrow just yesterday.I would never count Socke out | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
Why did they make the groups like that? I love the group stages, really makes sure the best of each group gets through playing that many games. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10301 Posts
it seems this thread ended up being the offical on on IEMbtw do anyone knows if there will be a featured news about IEM? | ||
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AxionSteel
United States7754 Posts
Just wondering! | ||
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Cyberus
Germany148 Posts
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mordk
Chile8385 Posts
But most of all... GO WHITE-RA!! | ||
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FrostyTreats
United States355 Posts
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OnlineHero
Denmark647 Posts
On February 28 2011 02:05 FrostyTreats wrote: omg, idra vs morrow ;0 I can't even describe how much I'm looking forward to that game after all that went down in that one SOTG episode. I'm usually rooting for IdrA, but man I hope MorroW takes that one. | ||
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DBrave
Serbia379 Posts
Is there some voting or casters will decide ? | ||
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shaunnn
Ireland1230 Posts
On February 28 2011 23:32 DBrave wrote: There are always 3 games at the same time played. How can we know which one will be casted ? Is there some voting or casters will decide ? Read the schedule? http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/sc2_groupstage/ | ||
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DBrave
Serbia379 Posts
i didnt notice when i looked 1st time, there are blackened little esl letters, that means that mach will be casted. everything is ok except the last mach between Morrow and Idra, it has to be casted !! | ||
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flummi
Germany71 Posts
On February 28 2011 23:46 DBrave wrote:everything is ok except the last mach between Morrow and Idra, it has to be casted !! it will be, in english and german http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season5/hanover/schedule/ | ||
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Turenne
331 Posts
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nihlon
Sweden5581 Posts
On February 28 2011 21:25 OnlineHero wrote: I can't even describe how much I'm looking forward to that game after all that went down in that one SOTG episode. I'm usually rooting for IdrA, but man I hope MorroW takes that one. What went down? | ||
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OnlineHero
Denmark647 Posts
Basically the SOTG guys (including IdrA) making fun of MorroW's ZvZ finals from Assembly. He was outplayed by Ret pretty much, so they went on and on about how bad MorroW's ZvZ was. | ||
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GenoZStriker
United States2914 Posts
They said MorroW's ZvZ isn't as good as other top level Zerg after his games against Ret and the vocal minority took it as them calling MorroW bad despite iNcontroL calling him a fantastic and top player. On March 01 2011 00:36 OnlineHero wrote: Basically the SOTG guys (including IdrA) making fun of MorroW's ZvZ finals from Assembly. He was outplayed by Ret pretty much, so they went on and on about how bad MorroW's ZvZ was. Way to try and blow shit out of proportion. They were not making fun of him, rather just pointing the obvious and giving critism for why he lost to Ret. In fact they were very serious when they were discussing it, because the last they need was some dumbass running off telling MorroW that SToG crew hates him like someone did with SelecT. | ||
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zYwi3c
Poland1811 Posts
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OnlineHero
Denmark647 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:36 GenoZStriker wrote: They said MorroW's ZvZ isn't as good as other top level Zerg after his games against Ret and the vocal minority took it as them calling MorroW despite iNcontroL calling him a fantastic and top player. Way to try and blow shit out of proportion. They were not making fun of him, rather just pointing the obvious and giving critism for why he lost to Ret. In fact they were very serious about when they were discussing it. Maybe we have different oppinions of the term "making fun of". I don't mean it in a harsh way at all. It has been blown out of proportion a bit, but you can't deny that some laughs on morrow's behalf was had. | ||
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neuromodulator
7 Posts
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mdma-_-
Nauru1213 Posts
On March 01 2011 02:44 neuromodulator wrote: Hey, guys, this may be obvious to you but I'm a total n00b and this is the first tournament I've really been interested in watching. It's on in the middle of the night where I am; where can I go after the fact to watch the matches that will be spoiler-free? I don't want to stumble around on ESL's site and ruin everything. http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/#/de/vod/ vods are usually uploaded there, but dont expect them to be up until a few days after the event. | ||
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:23 Turenne wrote: Just to make sure I get up at the right time, what time do we kick off tomorrow GMT? 9:10am CET so 8:10am in Ireland(?) | ||
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Coldviolet
United States110 Posts
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ExquisiteRed
396 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:42 zYwi3c wrote: Omg, Idra vs Morrow wont be casted ;/ ... WHYYYYYYY Huh, looks like you're right. They have pretty much all the other games casted except for that one :/ | ||
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ThaZenith
Canada3116 Posts
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Redox
Germany24794 Posts
On March 01 2011 03:20 ExquisiteRed wrote: Huh, looks like you're right. They have pretty much all the other games casted except for that one :/ Yeah, no stream is listed in the schedule. I am pretty sure though that they will have one stream that covers this. E.g. the German stream is not listed for any game at that time. | ||
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rolfe
United Kingdom1266 Posts
On March 01 2011 00:44 OnlineHero wrote: Maybe we have different oppinions of the term "making fun of". I don't mean it in a harsh way at all. It has been blown out of proportion a bit, but you can't deny that some laughs on morrow's behalf was had. Morrow actually posted in the thread saying he loved the show, i don't think anything was said about morrow that even the smallest amount of drama could come from. As for the games, idra morrow and idra tarson are kinda interesting matches lol. i'm looking forward to white ra qxc too, there'll be an interesting clash of styles there | ||
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Turenne
331 Posts
Yeah I'm thinking thats it, thanks, I'm awful with timezones and really don't want to miss Idra/QXC. | ||
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wideye
United States209 Posts
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PepperoniPiZZa
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
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doihy
668 Posts
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HeIios
Sweden2523 Posts
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F1rstAssau1t
1341 Posts
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itchyrear
United States13 Posts
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Twitches
Canada365 Posts
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xza
Singapore1600 Posts
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Karots
United States79 Posts
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aRMakedon
Macedonia23 Posts
enought time to take drink and snack, till it starts | ||
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Broodwich
United States393 Posts
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Artosis Mermaid
United States34 Posts
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enemy2010
Germany1972 Posts
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Nufo
United States186 Posts
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jester-
Canada547 Posts
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motbob
United States12546 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=197391 | ||
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derElbe
Germany571 Posts
thx for the link. | ||
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Avaloch
241 Posts
On March 01 2011 17:25 Nufo wrote: own3D.tv always lags for me too :/ no matter who it is streaming Same for me! I always get the constant refreshing thing. It's so irritating that their service is so shitty. | ||
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