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On January 24 2011 18:19 shannn wrote:
SGL better update their league then lol. Kinda bad that they don't update their own league but do post the results.
We have a process for adding new players to the league roster. For whatever reason (which is not important and none of our business) EG did not add IdrA until yesterday at 4:25pm. This process includes a 1 week barred period for newly added players.
That being said, this is still very early in the season, only week 2, so there is more than enough time for IdrA to play in future wars. EG is a very strong team and for sure a contendor for the finals, as is ONE. We look forward to some great performances in the coming weeks!
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i know this is off topic of this, but does iNcontrol stream? i will love to see incontrol stream his so funny
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On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
I don't think you can fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play, it was EG's mistake.
With all due respect, i don't fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play. My point is this: Was what ONE did
1- Against the rules? No.
2- Good mannered? No.
This just shows what ONE prioritizes. Winning is their one and only goal and anything besides winning is optional. EG could make something up, postpone this to next week and IdrA could play as "1 week restriction" would end then. But they did not do so, instead they kindly asked and not so kindly got rejected. This shows their respect to the league and other team, namely ONE.
On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
But from a viewer's perspective I'm pretty dissapointed. You guys don't want to play vs IdrA because your afraid you'll lose and then you only win because you cheese your wins? Like idk, gotta do what you gotta do, but I won't be tuning into ONE events anytime soon if this is what there is too display. Grats on winning against EG without its two best players I guess.
My thoughts exactly.
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On January 25 2011 03:47 BlueCow wrote:
EG is a very strong team and for sure a contendor for the finals, as is ONE.
Sir, with all due respect but a team who in my humble opinion has no good and stable players (comparing to other teams like EG, Fnatic and ROOT of course) is no contendor for the finals. This is just me of course.
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Lol yeah because EG (or better Incontrol and Idra) are known for being that well mannered and all around nice they can expect everybody to do them all favors they ask for.
Seriously if someone trys to diss me like Incontrol does here I would take every opportunity to flip the finger at them. Fair game on both sides.
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On January 25 2011 03:55 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
I don't think you can fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play, it was EG's mistake. With all due respect, i don't fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play. My point is this: Was what ONE did 1- Against the rules? No. 2- Good mannered? No. This just shows what ONE prioritizes. Winning is their one and only goal and anything besides winning is optional. EG could make something up, postpone this to next week and IdrA could play as "1 week restriction" would end then. But they did not do so, instead they kindly asked and not so kindly got rejected. This shows their respect to the league and other team, namely ONE. Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
But from a viewer's perspective I'm pretty dissapointed. You guys don't want to play vs IdrA because your afraid you'll lose and then you only win because you cheese your wins? Like idk, gotta do what you gotta do, but I won't be tuning into ONE events anytime soon if this is what there is too display. Grats on winning against EG without its two best players I guess. My thoughts exactly.
If their one and only goal wasn't winning, they wouldn't be at where they are right now. Like you said, ONE isn't breaking any rules by what they're doing and it's not the first nor the last time a player has been barred from participating because of tournament rules. But seeing as how you're a giant crybaby and resorting to asinine comments like "you only win because you cheese your wins" I'm pretty sure ONE doesn't want viewers like you anyway. E-sports, as a whole, doesn't want viewers like you just as much as you don't want bad-mannered teams.
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On January 25 2011 03:55 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
I don't think you can fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play, it was EG's mistake. With all due respect, i don't fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play. My point is this: Was what ONE did 1- Against the rules? No. 2- Good mannered? No. This just shows what ONE prioritizes. Winning is their one and only goal and anything besides winning is optional. EG could make something up, postpone this to next week and IdrA could play as "1 week restriction" would end then. But they did not do so, instead they kindly asked and not so kindly got rejected. This shows their respect to the league and other team, namely ONE. Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
But from a viewer's perspective I'm pretty dissapointed. You guys don't want to play vs IdrA because your afraid you'll lose and then you only win because you cheese your wins? Like idk, gotta do what you gotta do, but I won't be tuning into ONE events anytime soon if this is what there is too display. Grats on winning against EG without its two best players I guess. My thoughts exactly. EDIT: Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:47 BlueCow wrote:
EG is a very strong team and for sure a contendor for the finals, as is ONE. Sir, with all due respect but a team who in my humble opinion has no good and stable players (comparing to other teams like EG, Fnatic and ROOT of course) is no contendor for the finals. This is just me of course.
Competition doesn't require you to be well mannered.
Trace your mind back to the World Cup Final of 2010. Holland vs Spain: did you see the amount of fouls committed by both teams? Amounting to De Jong kicking (physically kicking) Xabi Alonso (one of the greatest players in the world) in the heart. Escaping FA rules and FIFA punishment as well. Was it well mannered? No. Was it against the rules? Seemingly not.
When you compete, you do whatever you can to win. If Britain or the US had a chance to stop Usain Bolt from competing in the Olympics, do you think they'd stop him? Of course they would - you compete because you want to win - not because you want to hold hands playing happy families, come on.
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quoting Tyler, Everybody chill
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+ Show Spoiler +On January 25 2011 03:55 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
I don't think you can fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play, it was EG's mistake. With all due respect, i don't fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play. My point is this: Was what ONE did 1- Against the rules? No. 2- Good mannered? No. This just shows what ONE prioritizes. Winning is their one and only goal and anything besides winning is optional. EG could make something up, postpone this to next week and IdrA could play as "1 week restriction" would end then. But they did not do so, instead they kindly asked and not so kindly got rejected. This shows their respect to the league and other team, namely ONE. Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
But from a viewer's perspective I'm pretty dissapointed. You guys don't want to play vs IdrA because your afraid you'll lose and then you only win because you cheese your wins? Like idk, gotta do what you gotta do, but I won't be tuning into ONE events anytime soon if this is what there is too display. Grats on winning against EG without its two best players I guess. My thoughts exactly. EDIT: Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:47 BlueCow wrote:
EG is a very strong team and for sure a contendor for the finals, as is ONE. Sir, with all due respect but a team who in my humble opinion has no good and stable players (comparing to other teams like EG, Fnatic and ROOT of course) is no contendor for the finals. This is just me of course.
Oh please, Idra was being a prick towards the players in ONE and then comes acting all hurt when they aren't keen on doing him a favor. Had Idra been more respectful this would never have happened. I like Idra and his attitude, he spices up the scene - but he should know by now that his bad manners may backfire.
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On January 25 2011 04:04 Redox wrote:
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Lol yeah because EG (or better Incontrol and Idra) are known for being that well mannered and all around nice they can expect everybody to do them all favors they ask for.
Seriously if someone trys to diss me like Incontrol does here I would take every opportunity to flip the finger at them. Fair game on both sides.
I am not in the community for long enough to comment on incontrol's or idra's personal reputiations in terms of manner. What I was talking about is EG did not try to postpone the game for a week just for the sake of lifting the bar on IdrA (and optionally DeMusliM), which is respectful to their opponent. Speaking of respect, ONE is not the model on that for anyone to look and learn imho.
On January 25 2011 04:06 MayorITC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:55 Djagulingu wrote:On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
I don't think you can fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play, it was EG's mistake. With all due respect, i don't fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play. My point is this: Was what ONE did 1- Against the rules? No. 2- Good mannered? No. This just shows what ONE prioritizes. Winning is their one and only goal and anything besides winning is optional. EG could make something up, postpone this to next week and IdrA could play as "1 week restriction" would end then. But they did not do so, instead they kindly asked and not so kindly got rejected. This shows their respect to the league and other team, namely ONE. On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
But from a viewer's perspective I'm pretty dissapointed. You guys don't want to play vs IdrA because your afraid you'll lose and then you only win because you cheese your wins? Like idk, gotta do what you gotta do, but I won't be tuning into ONE events anytime soon if this is what there is too display. Grats on winning against EG without its two best players I guess. My thoughts exactly. If their one and only goal wasn't winning, they wouldn't be at where they are right now. Like you said, ONE isn't breaking any rules by what they're doing and it's not the first nor the last time a player has been barred from participating because of tournament rules. But seeing as how you're a giant crybaby and resorting to asinine comments like "you only win because you cheese your wins" I'm pretty sure ONE doesn't want viewers like you anyway. E-sports, as a whole, doesn't want viewers like you just as much as you don't want bad-mannered teams.
I thought that I was talking objectively on the event without favoring any of the sides, but well, probably i was not (at least, according to you). Anyway, as I'm a gigantic crybaby who constantly whines on ONE because they can only win with cheese, they wouldn't want me as a viewer anyway (again; at least, according to you). But i want to object on something the bold part: I don't think that e-sports itself wants bad-mannered teams in the first place, do they?
On January 25 2011 04:08 Cranberries wrote:
Competition doesn't require you to be well mannered.
Trace your mind back to the World Cup Final of 2010. Holland vs Spain: did you see the amount of fouls committed by both teams? Amounting to De Jong kicking (physically kicking) Xabi Alonso (one of the greatest players in the world) in the heart. Escaping FA rules and FIFA punishment as well. Was it well mannered? No. Was it against the rules? Seemingly not.
When you compete, you do whatever you can to win. If Britain or the US had a chance to stop Usain Bolt from competing in the Olympics, do you think they'd stop him? Of course they would - you compete because you want to win - not because you want to hold hands playing happy families, come on.
No objections sir.
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On January 25 2011 04:16 Djagulingu wrote:
I am not in the community for long enough to comment on incontrol's or idra's personal reputiations in terms of manner.
From here on I was sure you are trolling.
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On January 25 2011 04:22 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 04:16 Djagulingu wrote:
I am not in the community for long enough to comment on incontrol's or idra's personal reputiations in terms of manner.
From here on I was sure you are trolling.
Lol of course i know some of idra's incidents. But it is not enough to comment on someone's manners imho.
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We're good people guys. I promise you that my main focus is to become a very tight macro player. I have been working on this for quite some time. Unfortunately I was very sick when I played my match.
I will show that that ONE isn't just a team that cheeses. If you look closely at our members you'll see that they're actually great macro players, but their cheese is so strong that they feel it gives them an advantage.
I appreciate everyones interest in the BM and such, but it's really not that big of a deal. We will play EG again in the future, and I hope they bring Idra/Demuslim. I'd love to play against them in a CW.
We are going to stick around and keep bringing the results, so get used to us! We are not going anywhere
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On January 25 2011 03:55 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
I don't think you can fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play, it was EG's mistake. With all due respect, i don't fault ONE for not allowing IdrA to play. My point is this: Was what ONE did 1- Against the rules? No. 2- Good mannered? No. This just shows what ONE prioritizes. Winning is their one and only goal and anything besides winning is optional. EG could make something up, postpone this to next week and IdrA could play as "1 week restriction" would end then. But they did not do so, instead they kindly asked and not so kindly got rejected. This shows their respect to the league and other team, namely ONE. Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:14 1Eris1 wrote:
But from a viewer's perspective I'm pretty dissapointed. You guys don't want to play vs IdrA because your afraid you'll lose and then you only win because you cheese your wins? Like idk, gotta do what you gotta do, but I won't be tuning into ONE events anytime soon if this is what there is too display. Grats on winning against EG without its two best players I guess. My thoughts exactly. EDIT: Why Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 03:47 BlueCow wrote:
EG is a very strong team and for sure a contendor for the finals, as is ONE. Sir, with all due respect but a team who in my humble opinion has no good and stable players (comparing to other teams like EG, Fnatic and ROOT of course) is no contendor for the finals. This is just me of course.
Lol man relax didn't incontrol edit kyhol reply when he said no? is that good mannered? You getting mad at ONE for actually giving themselves a chance to win?
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On January 25 2011 04:26 Kyhol wrote:We're good people guys. I promise you that my main focus is to become a very tight macro player. I have been working on this for quite some time. Unfortunately I was very sick when I played my match. I will show that that ONE isn't just a team that cheeses. If you look closely at our members you'll see that they're actually great macro players, but their cheese is so strong that they feel it gives them an advantage. I appreciate everyones interest in the BM and such, but it's really not that big of a deal. We will play EG again in the future, and I hope they bring Idra/Demuslim. I'd love to play against them in a CW. We are going to stick around and keep bringing the results, so get used to us! We are not going anywhere
This. I know how to macro and know how to do it well, But why win a game in 20 minutes if I can win in 6?
This is namhcir btw that so many ppl hated on ;p
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On January 25 2011 04:26 Kyhol wrote:We're good people guys. I promise you that my main focus is to become a very tight macro player. I have been working on this for quite some time. Unfortunately I was very sick when I played my match. I will show that that ONE isn't just a team that cheeses. If you look closely at our members you'll see that they're actually great macro players, but their cheese is so strong that they feel it gives them an advantage. I appreciate everyones interest in the BM and such, but it's really not that big of a deal. We will play EG again in the future, and I hope they bring Idra/Demuslim. I'd love to play against them in a CW. We are going to stick around and keep bringing the results, so get used to us! We are not going anywhere
I didn't watch ONE for long enough, but Cruncher is a good player (i watched him on TLOpen), Linko plays for ONE as well, i remember, he's good as well (I watched him a few times when he was in Inflow), but I am not sure about NamchiR as we saw him against EG this time (also Zelniq said that he cheesed in every single TvZ in a "NA Top 200" thread).
EDIT: I don't know why people got the impression that I'm mad. I don't like Terran cheese personally, but i also don't know from which words of mine you got the impression of i'm a mad giant crybaby, sorry for lack of knowledge.
@Hincram: no disrespects to you as well.
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On January 25 2011 04:28 Hincram wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 04:26 Kyhol wrote:We're good people guys. I promise you that my main focus is to become a very tight macro player. I have been working on this for quite some time. Unfortunately I was very sick when I played my match. I will show that that ONE isn't just a team that cheeses. If you look closely at our members you'll see that they're actually great macro players, but their cheese is so strong that they feel it gives them an advantage. I appreciate everyones interest in the BM and such, but it's really not that big of a deal. We will play EG again in the future, and I hope they bring Idra/Demuslim. I'd love to play against them in a CW. We are going to stick around and keep bringing the results, so get used to us! We are not going anywhere This. I know how to macro and know how to do it well, But why win a game in 20 minutes if I can win in 6? This is namhcir btw that so many ppl hated on ;p
Because its boring when 90% of the games being played are cheese/all in. And the more you do it the more haters your going to get if thats all they see you do 
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The real question, why is this thread still going on? We lost to proxy rax's 3 games in a row.. obviously out played.. now lets just move on.
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On January 25 2011 04:44 Lz wrote:
The real question, why is this thread still going on? We lost to proxy rax's 3 games in a row.. obviously out played.. now lets just move on.
Probably thanks to bitter comments like that.
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On January 25 2011 04:44 Lz wrote:
The real question, why is this thread still going on? We lost to proxy rax's 3 games in a row.. obviously out played.. now lets just move on.
I laughed so hard at this. EG should probably change their name to Evil Jokers by the this thread is going.
Aside from that, hope to see more from EG and ONE. GL to both teams.
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On January 25 2011 04:51 Longshank wrote:Show nested quote +On January 25 2011 04:44 Lz wrote:
The real question, why is this thread still going on? We lost to proxy rax's 3 games in a row.. obviously out played.. now lets just move on. Probably thanks to bitter comments like that.
ROFL!! Nice burn.
This thread is awesome entertainment.
EG, we love you guys but seriously, If you "desperately" wanted IdrA just to beat a team consisting of relatively unknown players with your lineup of Inc,Lz,Machine,InkA etc. its kinda lame imo.
Anyway, the only positive side effect of this will be that SGL will now be more closely followed.
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