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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
January 24 2011 08:23 GMT
#201
Fighting EG without IdrA and DeMuslim is like fighting OGS without MC or Ensnare. Makes for a lopsided lineup. They should have a rematch with their best lineups because beating a team without their best is a hollow victory.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 24 2011 08:25 GMT
#202
On January 24 2011 17:17 KonohaFlash wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 16:57 BlueCow wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:46 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:37 BlueCow wrote:
your right, i have not had a long posting history here, perhaps a certain mod posting in this thread is just a bad representation of TL.


That was my point exactly jesus lol

@blur: Yes the "fear" we had was not using idra.. what? Would we have liked to? Obviously. Can you actually fault us for wanting IdrA in the lineup? Kidding me?


Ok so this raises the larger question, why does TL allow you to represent them in such a bad mannered and blatantly abusive fashion?

Can you please shut up? You have 20 posts and you're coming here criticizing incontrol? Do you know how long he's been on TL and how long he's been a mod? If he's so bad and is a terrible representative of TL as a moderator, then why has he been a mod for so long?

You obviously haven't been here long enough to know incontrol is an awesome person and isn't some ill-mannered individual as you're trying to portray him as.

right now you act as a definition of nuthuggery.
As if it requires an extensive scientific studies to determine that incontrol was out of line in this thread.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27172 Posts
January 24 2011 08:32 GMT
#203
On January 24 2011 16:57 BlueCow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 16:46 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:37 BlueCow wrote:
your right, i have not had a long posting history here, perhaps a certain mod posting in this thread is just a bad representation of TL.


That was my point exactly jesus lol

@blur: Yes the "fear" we had was not using idra.. what? Would we have liked to? Obviously. Can you actually fault us for wanting IdrA in the lineup? Kidding me?


Ok so this raises the larger question, why does TL allow you to represent them in such a bad mannered and blatantly abusive fashion?


Shut. Up.
ModeratorGodfather
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 08:34:14
January 24 2011 08:33 GMT
#204
On January 24 2011 17:25 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 17:17 KonohaFlash wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:57 BlueCow wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:46 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:37 BlueCow wrote:
your right, i have not had a long posting history here, perhaps a certain mod posting in this thread is just a bad representation of TL.


That was my point exactly jesus lol

@blur: Yes the "fear" we had was not using idra.. what? Would we have liked to? Obviously. Can you actually fault us for wanting IdrA in the lineup? Kidding me?


Ok so this raises the larger question, why does TL allow you to represent them in such a bad mannered and blatantly abusive fashion?

Can you please shut up? You have 20 posts and you're coming here criticizing incontrol? Do you know how long he's been on TL and how long he's been a mod? If he's so bad and is a terrible representative of TL as a moderator, then why has he been a mod for so long?

You obviously haven't been here long enough to know incontrol is an awesome person and isn't some ill-mannered individual as you're trying to portray him as.

right now you act as a definition of nuthuggery.
As if it requires an extensive scientific studies to determine that incontrol was out of line in this thread.

lol

Can we please calm down? Do you even know what I did that was "so out of line" ? I have a nagging feeling some of you are posting with some kind of mob mentality. I made a harmless joke and that was it o_O
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
January 24 2011 08:35 GMT
#205
On January 24 2011 17:23 NEOtheONE wrote:
Fighting EG without IdrA and DeMuslim is like fighting OGS without MC or Ensnare. Makes for a lopsided lineup. They should have a rematch with their best lineups because beating a team without their best is a hollow victory.


Clanwars is as much about the width of the clan as it is about the top of the clan, if that makes sense in english...

I imagine it is quite common for a team to be missing one or two players, ONE was also missing players.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
January 24 2011 08:39 GMT
#206
On January 24 2011 17:33 iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 17:25 Sfydjklm wrote:
On January 24 2011 17:17 KonohaFlash wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:57 BlueCow wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:46 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:37 BlueCow wrote:
your right, i have not had a long posting history here, perhaps a certain mod posting in this thread is just a bad representation of TL.


That was my point exactly jesus lol

@blur: Yes the "fear" we had was not using idra.. what? Would we have liked to? Obviously. Can you actually fault us for wanting IdrA in the lineup? Kidding me?


Ok so this raises the larger question, why does TL allow you to represent them in such a bad mannered and blatantly abusive fashion?

Can you please shut up? You have 20 posts and you're coming here criticizing incontrol? Do you know how long he's been on TL and how long he's been a mod? If he's so bad and is a terrible representative of TL as a moderator, then why has he been a mod for so long?

You obviously haven't been here long enough to know incontrol is an awesome person and isn't some ill-mannered individual as you're trying to portray him as.

right now you act as a definition of nuthuggery.
As if it requires an extensive scientific studies to determine that incontrol was out of line in this thread.

lol

Can we please calm down? Do you even know what I did that was "so out of line" ? I have a nagging feeling some of you are posting with some kind of mob mentality. I made a harmless joke and that was it o_O

oh i dunno i guess im a bit of a manifesto nuthugger myself. I sorta thought he had a point around page 4 when he told u to stop it and yet you decided it's in everyone's best interest to carry on for 7 more pages.
JLIG yo
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
RJ231
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada19 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 08:53:23
January 24 2011 08:52 GMT
#207
The part most of you seem to not grasp is that EG uses a pretty standard lineup for these leagues, after losing to ONE before they just wanted to bring in a player who 9.9/10 wouldn't be placed in the lineup. On top of that IdrA talked a bunch of shit about cruncher (called him "bad") which I find pretty comical considering he's on the same level or better than every other member of EG. I wonder if IdrA considers the rest of his team to be 'bad' since they all play roughly on the same level.

DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
January 24 2011 09:01 GMT
#208
On January 24 2011 17:39 Sfydjklm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 17:33 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 24 2011 17:25 Sfydjklm wrote:
On January 24 2011 17:17 KonohaFlash wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:57 BlueCow wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:46 iNcontroL wrote:
On January 24 2011 16:37 BlueCow wrote:
your right, i have not had a long posting history here, perhaps a certain mod posting in this thread is just a bad representation of TL.


That was my point exactly jesus lol

@blur: Yes the "fear" we had was not using idra.. what? Would we have liked to? Obviously. Can you actually fault us for wanting IdrA in the lineup? Kidding me?


Ok so this raises the larger question, why does TL allow you to represent them in such a bad mannered and blatantly abusive fashion?

Can you please shut up? You have 20 posts and you're coming here criticizing incontrol? Do you know how long he's been on TL and how long he's been a mod? If he's so bad and is a terrible representative of TL as a moderator, then why has he been a mod for so long?

You obviously haven't been here long enough to know incontrol is an awesome person and isn't some ill-mannered individual as you're trying to portray him as.

right now you act as a definition of nuthuggery.
As if it requires an extensive scientific studies to determine that incontrol was out of line in this thread.

lol

Can we please calm down? Do you even know what I did that was "so out of line" ? I have a nagging feeling some of you are posting with some kind of mob mentality. I made a harmless joke and that was it o_O

oh i dunno i guess im a bit of a manifesto nuthugger myself. I sorta thought he had a point around page 4 when he told u to stop it and yet you decided it's in everyone's best interest to carry on for 7 more pages.
JLIG yo


Well Incontrol pretty much stopped it at page 4, but by that time he had set the stone rolling and quite a few others picked up the cause for him.

I am just sad that i can see Incontrol, Idra, Scoots and Zlasher crying/bashing ONE for this decision in the future. With words such as them being scared to face the best, being BM etc. ONE could have allowed IdrA to play, but if they felt they had no reason to grant favors to EG that is thier call, and playing butch and calling them scared just reflects worse back on EG imo... Do not turn into the Crybaby team of gaming, please.

On another note, what does this loss mean for EG in the league? Still hoping you guys can turn it around and get a top two placement, you deserve it.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 09:11:29
January 24 2011 09:07 GMT
#209
On January 24 2011 17:52 RJ231 wrote:
The part most of you seem to not grasp is that EG uses a pretty standard lineup for these leagues, after losing to ONE before they just wanted to bring in a player who 9.9/10 wouldn't be placed in the lineup. On top of that IdrA talked a bunch of shit about cruncher (called him "bad") which I find pretty comical considering he's on the same level or better than every other member of EG. I wonder if IdrA considers the rest of his team to be 'bad' since they all play roughly on the same level.


1 Post and trying to troll = not a good start >.>

I see this league and see EG so I'm interested to look and I see flame wars going on with mods etc.

From what I have read so far (from 1st page rest were kind of flame wars) is that:

- EG made a mistake by not putting IdrA on the roster (how long is irrelevant)
- EG kindly asked the opponent ONE if EG could use IdrA even if he's not on the roster but known to be in EG for idk how long (5-6 months now? around sc2 release I suppose)
- ONE refused and if that quote of incontrol is true then it's ONE's right to do so but they should also manner up themselves for being BM in such a way.
- ONE played by the rules and did everything to won which they did.
- How they played their games was afaik legally since they didn't cheated and how lame they played is arbritary so it's not important (cheese/rush w/e).

This shouldn't be a problem imo and EG should just put IdrA on the roster. I don't know the rules of this league except that they're barred for 1 week to play (idk if this is even true).
EG made an administration mistake or lacked the skill to do so which they got punished for by not able to let IdrA play.

ONE did everything by the rules. How they responded (like being BM is arbitrary).
This should be closed tbh because I see a lot of flames going on.

Just hoping EG will be able to play to their maximum potential in this league next times.

Edit:
Just after browsing SGL I see that this was EG's 1st match and there are 6 remaining.
If EG doesn't repeat their mistake like round 1 then they should be able to get 1st or 2nd imo.

gogo EG!

User was warned for this post
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
nGBeast
Profile Joined July 2010
United States914 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 09:22:42
January 24 2011 09:14 GMT
#210
This was their 2nd match, they lost 1-4 to eSuba in the first week.

Also EG uses pretty much the same lineup in leagues (SGL/SCL), idrA only played once in SCL last season and I don't believe he played in the first season of SGL.


edited: Wrote empire instead of eSuba.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 24 2011 09:19 GMT
#211
On January 24 2011 18:14 nGBeast wrote:
This was their 2nd match, they lost 1-4 to empire in the first week.

Also EG uses pretty much the same lineup in leagues (SGL/SCL), idrA only played once in SCL last season and I don't believe he played in the first season of SGL.

I stand corrected thanks.

SGL better update their league then lol. Kinda bad that they don't update their own league but do post the results.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
January 24 2011 09:26 GMT
#212
On January 24 2011 18:07 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 17:52 RJ231 wrote:
The part most of you seem to not grasp is that EG uses a pretty standard lineup for these leagues, after losing to ONE before they just wanted to bring in a player who 9.9/10 wouldn't be placed in the lineup. On top of that IdrA talked a bunch of shit about cruncher (called him "bad") which I find pretty comical considering he's on the same level or better than every other member of EG. I wonder if IdrA considers the rest of his team to be 'bad' since they all play roughly on the same level.



- ONE refused and if that quote of incontrol is true then it's ONE's right to do so but they should also manner up themselves for being BM in such a way.


Of course the quote is not true, InControl even said himself that it was a joke. An attempt from him to be funny, put some feelings into the tournament.
"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
RJ231
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada19 Posts
January 24 2011 09:41 GMT
#213
On January 24 2011 18:07 shannn wrote:

1 Post and trying to troll = not a good start >.>


My post wasn't a troll at all, I've been browsing this site for a very long time and I choose not to post here before. I didn't intend for it to be a troll but to merely point out the fact that idra has no respect for pretty much anyone and insults people randomly for no good reason. Turns out in this instance it bit him/EG in the ass (I'm confident if it was anyone else ONE would of actually let them play) cause ONE didn't allow him in the lineup.
SushilS
Profile Joined November 2010
2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 09:50:03
January 24 2011 09:46 GMT
#214
Shann stop identifying Trolls where there aren't any! It was quite an objective post... Also Geoff's quote was ob a joke! And a good one at that.... Sad to see the way the thread degenerated following that though!
And RJ231, IdrA doesn't randomly BM usually... He does it only to people he thinks are lower than his "level"!
He has been wrong in the past and has often graciously accepted his miscalculation of someones talent.
iceiceice: I’m going to make this short; I am the one true tinker player.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-01-24 10:16:07
January 24 2011 10:14 GMT
#215
On January 24 2011 17:23 NEOtheONE wrote:
Fighting EG without IdrA and DeMuslim is like fighting OGS without MC or Ensnare. Makes for a lopsided lineup. They should have a rematch with their best lineups because beating a team without their best is a hollow victory.

Not really tbh, like at least 50% of clan wars have top 5 players absent in some team. EG still has a strong line up without idra/demuslim, although those are clearly their best players.

Good to see incontrol blatantly trolling just like back in the olden days lol.
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 24 2011 11:16 GMT
#216
On January 24 2011 18:46 SushilS wrote:
Shann stop identifying Trolls where there aren't any! It was quite an objective post... Also Geoff's quote was ob a joke! And a good one at that.... Sad to see the way the thread degenerated following that though!
And RJ231, IdrA doesn't randomly BM usually... He does it only to people he thinks are lower than his "level"!
He has been wrong in the past and has often graciously accepted his miscalculation of someones talent.

Making a statement about IdrA being BM to others and is the result of him not being signed on the team list for SGL and/or other team leagues is such a ridiculous statement and is not objective at all so I can't see the objectivity in his post.

It should have nothing to do with Idra being BM or his BM being a result of him not being signed up on the team list for SGL.

This was actually the point my previous long post was trying to make. I pmed RJ saying my reasoning and an apology since I was wrong on him being a troll.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
January 24 2011 11:43 GMT
#217
lol so much drama in this tournament already xD
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
DND_Enkil
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden598 Posts
January 24 2011 11:47 GMT
#218
On January 24 2011 20:16 shannn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 18:46 SushilS wrote:
Shann stop identifying Trolls where there aren't any! It was quite an objective post... Also Geoff's quote was ob a joke! And a good one at that.... Sad to see the way the thread degenerated following that though!
And RJ231, IdrA doesn't randomly BM usually... He does it only to people he thinks are lower than his "level"!
He has been wrong in the past and has often graciously accepted his miscalculation of someones talent.

Making a statement about IdrA being BM to others and is the result of him not being signed on the team list for SGL and/or other team leagues is such a ridiculous statement and is not objective at all so I can't see the objectivity in his post.


Since the manager of ONE posted in this thread pretty much that he did not want to do any favors for EG and IdrA due to IdrA having insulted thier players in the past his post was very pretty relevant.

Not going to go in and say if it is right/wrong bad whatever. But that was thier statement.


On January 24 2011 12:22 RuMCaKe wrote:
Heres my 2 cents as the leader of ONE. EG could have allowed IdrA to be on their roster several months ago, but they didn't. Just like they don't have DemusliM on their SGL roster at the moment now either, and they didnt elect to use DemusliM when we played them in SCL earlier this week. I have a ton of respect for EG, and have known some of their players for some time. But with the disrespect IdrA has shown my team in the last few days and the comments he has made, I have no reason to do him any favors. If both teams make it to the play offs in SGL we will be happy to play against him there when he is an eligible player on their roster.


"If you write about a sewing needle there is always some one-eyed bastard that gets offended" - Fritiof The Pirate Nilsson
shannn
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands2891 Posts
January 24 2011 11:52 GMT
#219
On January 24 2011 20:47 DND_Enkil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 20:16 shannn wrote:
On January 24 2011 18:46 SushilS wrote:
Shann stop identifying Trolls where there aren't any! It was quite an objective post... Also Geoff's quote was ob a joke! And a good one at that.... Sad to see the way the thread degenerated following that though!
And RJ231, IdrA doesn't randomly BM usually... He does it only to people he thinks are lower than his "level"!
He has been wrong in the past and has often graciously accepted his miscalculation of someones talent.

Making a statement about IdrA being BM to others and is the result of him not being signed on the team list for SGL and/or other team leagues is such a ridiculous statement and is not objective at all so I can't see the objectivity in his post.


Since the manager of ONE posted in this thread pretty much that he did not want to do any favors for EG and IdrA due to IdrA having insulted thier players in the past his post was very pretty relevant.

Not going to go in and say if it is right/wrong bad whatever. But that was thier statement.


Show nested quote +
On January 24 2011 12:22 RuMCaKe wrote:
Heres my 2 cents as the leader of ONE. EG could have allowed IdrA to be on their roster several months ago, but they didn't. Just like they don't have DemusliM on their SGL roster at the moment now either, and they didnt elect to use DemusliM when we played them in SCL earlier this week. I have a ton of respect for EG, and have known some of their players for some time. But with the disrespect IdrA has shown my team in the last few days and the comments he has made, I have no reason to do him any favors. If both teams make it to the play offs in SGL we will be happy to play against him there when he is an eligible player on their roster.



I stand corrected once again as I wasn't aware of that post. Everything seems clear to me now
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=6321864 Epic post.
Full.tilt
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United Kingdom1709 Posts
January 24 2011 12:32 GMT
#220
Not really Incontrol's fault there are people who took his earlier quote seriously. People should learn to generally ignore all one liner posts that are similar to the ones that followed :

lol are you seroius? rofl what a joke thanks for letting us know!


u mad?
x3

ya he mad


and even if you read them definitely don't respond lol.

Grats to ONE. Hopefully people ignore my humble advice though, looking forward to more entertaining threads like this.
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