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Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-07 13:44:39
December 07 2010 13:42 GMT
#5621
On December 07 2010 22:23 Beyonder wrote:
Want to buy short game summary of last 3 games :x

They were really somewhat similar all 3.

Game 3: Both fast expanded and massed up armies. Jinro poked around choyas base once but no engagement whatsoever. Jinro eventually opted for 2nd expo. Choya moved out to attack with a very similar army comp from both sides as game 2. However they engaged in a good spot for choya this time, the vikings got sniped without doing too much colo damage. Jinro retreated his bio ball to his natural and the leftover vikings were way out of position. Last fight at his natural was never close.

Game 4: Jinro goes 1-1-1, choya 3gate (later adding robo). Bit of 3gate pressure forces scv pulling to repair Jinros ramp bunker. Stalkers run past bunker and Jinro is forced to defend with scvs/marines pulled out of the bunker. Choya up 10ish workers. However Jinros bashees gets done soon after and it gets about 6 workers kills before having to retreat. So after that they were pretty much equal. Bit of dancing around ensues while Jinro takes his backdoor expo. Choya stays on 1 base whole game and techs to colo. Another small engagement at Jinros ramp causes choya to lose 1 colo, but armies are stil lquite similar and choya pulls back. When they finally engage Jinros vikings are again sniped without doing too much damage while his bio has to kite zealots. A small pull back from choya while he replenishes his zealot count and then he goes for the last push which again is pretty one sided with I think only 1 viking out from Jinro vs a superior and more balanced P army.

Game 5: Jinro goes 2rax, Choya DTs. Jinro dances around choyas rocks and a reaper jumps up and just manages to spot the TC, but not the DS (which was right next to it). Jinro senses DTs and puts up engi bay and forward turret. DTs do no damage, choya expands behind it. Cloaked banshees comes in and gets a good 15ish kills before choya gets an observer up. Jinro slightly behind on his natural but pull ahead in supply due to banshee harass. Unit massing ensues and Jinro also secures his 3rd while choya stays 2base whole game. Eventually two 200/200 armies started to dance around the middle for a good 5 minutes (very tense period) trying to find the perfect spot to engage, but no engagemnt. Choya eventually gets up to Jinros rocks, gets them down and moves into Jinros main. He kills a few depots and other stuff while Jinro pull his army home into his main from his natural. As Jinros army arrives, choya pulls back down the rock-path. Jinro follows. But for unknown reasons choya turns back up the rock-path and gets into a very unfavourable low-ground position with less of an arc. Viking instantly kill colos (without thermal lance, big mistake), EMPs weaken the P army and Jinro has better bio upgrades. The supply goes from 200 vs 200 to 200 vs 100. Jinro counters and wins.

All in all the last 4 games, while the buildup to it looked different, they all largely came down to one big engagement with MMM+viking vs Gateway units+Colos. Jinro won game 2 and 5, lost 3 and 4.
10or10
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden517 Posts
December 07 2010 13:44 GMT
#5622
On December 07 2010 22:42 Kreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:23 Beyonder wrote:
Want to buy short game summary of last 3 games :x

They were really somewhat similar all 3.

Game 3: Both fast expanded and massed up armies. Jinro poked around choyas base once but no engagement whatsoever. Jinro eventually opted for 2nd expo. Choya moved out to attack with a very similar army comp from both sides as game 2. However they engaged in a good spot for choya this time, the vikings got sniped without doing too much colo damage. Jinro retreated his bio ball to his natural and the leftover vikings were way out of position. Last fight at his natural was never close.

Game 4: Jinro goes 1-1-1, choya 3gate (later adding robo). Bit of 3gate pressure forces scv pulling to repair Jinros ramp bunker. Stalkers run past bunker and Jinro is forced to defend with scvs/marines pulled out of the bunker. Choya up 10ish workers. However Jinros bashees gets done soon after and it gets about 6 workers kills before having to retreat. So after that they were pretty much equal. Bit of dancing around ensues while Jinro takes his backdoor expo. Choya stays on 1 base whole game and techs to colo. Another small engagement at Jinros ramp causes choya to lose 1 colo, but armies are stil lquite similar and choya pulls back. When they finally engage Jinros vikings are again sniped without doing too much damage while his bio has to kite zealots. A small pull back from choya while he replenishes his zealot count and then he goes for the last push which again is pretty one sided with I think only 1 viking out from Jinro vs a superior and more balanced P army.

Game 5: Jinro goes 2rax, Choya DTs. Jinro dances around choyas rocks and a reaper jumps up and just manages to spot the TC, but not the DS (which was right next to it). Jinro senses DTs and puts up engi bay and forward turret. DTs do no damage, choya expands behind it. Cloaked banshees comes in and gets a good 15ish kills before choya gets an observer up. Jinro slightly behind on his natural but pull ahead in supply due to banshee harass. Unit massing ensues and Jinro also secures his 3rd while choya stays 2base whole game. Eventually two 200/200 armies started to dance around the middle for a good 5 minutes 8very tense period) trying to find the perfect spot to engage, but no engagemnt. Choya eventually gets up to Jinros rocks, gets them down and moves into Jinros main. He kills a few depots and other stuff while Jinro pull his army home into his main from his natural. As Jinros army arrives, choya pulls back down the rock-path. Jinro follows. But for unknown reasons choya turns back up the rock-path and gets into a very unfavourable low-ground position with less of an arc. Viking instantly kill colos (without thermal lance, big mistake), EMPs weaken the P army and Jinro has better bio upgrades. The supply goes from 200 vs 200 to 200 vs 100. Jinro counters and wins.

All in all the last 4 games, while the buildup to it looked different, they all largely came down to one big engagement with MMM+viking vs Gateway units+Colos. Jinro won game 2 and 5, lost 3 and 4.

Impressive memory, and a really good summary.
|| @10or10 || 이영호 이제동 - 화이팅 ^^ ||
Grummler
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany743 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-07 13:45:25
December 07 2010 13:44 GMT
#5623
On December 07 2010 22:37 42bsk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:36 Grummler wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:34 42bsk wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:30 Grummler wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:12 Entropic wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:11 Fukinkou wrote:
So, how much is Jinro to get MINIMUM for getting to RO4?


around 12k I think? I know 1st place is 86k, 2nd place around 26k


He gets 6600€. Dont know how much thats in $, but i guess somewhere around $9000


It's... OVER 9000!


9000 what? cookies, automatons,..? Its definitely 6600€. And its $8800, i just checked it. But in won its more than 9000...


Please, mere details do not stand in the way of legendary memes.


I dont even get... Well, atleast you doubled your post count with this "discussion". If you have problems with numbers: Making it through to the RO4 made Jinro get more money than most western tournaments offer for 1st place.
workers, supply, money, workers, supply, money, workers, ...
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23448 Posts
December 07 2010 13:44 GMT
#5624
In game 3, Choya made pheonixes from 1 stargate which bought enough time for the colossus to rip jinro's army apparant. Keep in mind 2 pheonix cost the same as 1 colossus but they tank about 2x the viking damage because they are light.
aka Teutonica
Phiir
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7 Posts
December 07 2010 13:46 GMT
#5625
congrats on the win Jinro, very epic battles
" Yeah well, whatever, you can't teach God anything." - Chuck Palahniuk
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
December 07 2010 13:51 GMT
#5626
On December 07 2010 22:44 10or10 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:42 Kreb wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:23 Beyonder wrote:
Want to buy short game summary of last 3 games :x

They were really somewhat similar all 3.

Game 3: Both fast expanded and massed up armies. Jinro poked around choyas base once but no engagement whatsoever. Jinro eventually opted for 2nd expo. Choya moved out to attack with a very similar army comp from both sides as game 2. However they engaged in a good spot for choya this time, the vikings got sniped without doing too much colo damage. Jinro retreated his bio ball to his natural and the leftover vikings were way out of position. Last fight at his natural was never close.

Game 4: Jinro goes 1-1-1, choya 3gate (later adding robo). Bit of 3gate pressure forces scv pulling to repair Jinros ramp bunker. Stalkers run past bunker and Jinro is forced to defend with scvs/marines pulled out of the bunker. Choya up 10ish workers. However Jinros bashees gets done soon after and it gets about 6 workers kills before having to retreat. So after that they were pretty much equal. Bit of dancing around ensues while Jinro takes his backdoor expo. Choya stays on 1 base whole game and techs to colo. Another small engagement at Jinros ramp causes choya to lose 1 colo, but armies are stil lquite similar and choya pulls back. When they finally engage Jinros vikings are again sniped without doing too much damage while his bio has to kite zealots. A small pull back from choya while he replenishes his zealot count and then he goes for the last push which again is pretty one sided with I think only 1 viking out from Jinro vs a superior and more balanced P army.

Game 5: Jinro goes 2rax, Choya DTs. Jinro dances around choyas rocks and a reaper jumps up and just manages to spot the TC, but not the DS (which was right next to it). Jinro senses DTs and puts up engi bay and forward turret. DTs do no damage, choya expands behind it. Cloaked banshees comes in and gets a good 15ish kills before choya gets an observer up. Jinro slightly behind on his natural but pull ahead in supply due to banshee harass. Unit massing ensues and Jinro also secures his 3rd while choya stays 2base whole game. Eventually two 200/200 armies started to dance around the middle for a good 5 minutes 8very tense period) trying to find the perfect spot to engage, but no engagemnt. Choya eventually gets up to Jinros rocks, gets them down and moves into Jinros main. He kills a few depots and other stuff while Jinro pull his army home into his main from his natural. As Jinros army arrives, choya pulls back down the rock-path. Jinro follows. But for unknown reasons choya turns back up the rock-path and gets into a very unfavourable low-ground position with less of an arc. Viking instantly kill colos (without thermal lance, big mistake), EMPs weaken the P army and Jinro has better bio upgrades. The supply goes from 200 vs 200 to 200 vs 100. Jinro counters and wins.

All in all the last 4 games, while the buildup to it looked different, they all largely came down to one big engagement with MMM+viking vs Gateway units+Colos. Jinro won game 2 and 5, lost 3 and 4.

Impressive memory, and a really good summary.

What this man said :D Thanks a lot
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42bsk
Profile Joined November 2010
29 Posts
December 07 2010 13:51 GMT
#5627
On December 07 2010 22:44 Grummler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:37 42bsk wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:36 Grummler wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:34 42bsk wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:30 Grummler wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:12 Entropic wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:11 Fukinkou wrote:
So, how much is Jinro to get MINIMUM for getting to RO4?


around 12k I think? I know 1st place is 86k, 2nd place around 26k


He gets 6600€. Dont know how much thats in $, but i guess somewhere around $9000


It's... OVER 9000!


9000 what? cookies, automatons,..? Its definitely 6600€. And its $8800, i just checked it. But in won its more than 9000...


Please, mere details do not stand in the way of legendary memes.


I dont even get... Well, atleast you doubled your post count with this "discussion". If you have problems with numbers: Making it through to the RO4 made Jinro get more money than most western tournaments offer for 1st place.



I think you need to get your sarcasm detector checked out. By the way, what does my post count have to do with anything? Long time lurker, registered recently to show support for TL in GSL.
Arefel
Profile Joined November 2010
United States31 Posts
December 07 2010 13:52 GMT
#5628
Oh man, very close series! That blunder with thermal lance might've cost Choya the game but they both played excellently. I guess the pressure just got to Choya first!

Also, ro4 is going to be EPIC. I think the winner of Jinro vs. MC will go on to win it all.
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
December 07 2010 13:54 GMT
#5629
Jinro fighthing!!!!!!!!!! So proud of you bro!
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
oldahe
Profile Joined May 2010
Austria534 Posts
December 07 2010 13:54 GMT
#5630
On December 07 2010 22:18 Synneby wrote:
Zlatan Ibrahimović, Fredrik Ljungberg, Mats Sundin, Peter Forsberg, Robert Lindstedt, Björn Borg and fucking JINRO!

You just took your place among the big guns of Sweden bro!


And Ingemar Stenmark, of course. The one and only...
Hancell
Profile Joined January 2009
Korea (South)24 Posts
December 07 2010 13:54 GMT
#5631
On December 07 2010 22:13 ArghUScaredMe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:11 Fukinkou wrote:
So, how much is Jinro to get MINIMUM for getting to RO4?

He got himself $8,600 USD in the bag already.

He wins again to Semifinal, it's a whopping $20K.

He wins first place, it's $85K.

$8,600 is not bad at all. Domestic prize for foreigners is probably not taxable to neither Korea or their home country.

So it's like winning a lottery for $13,000 in United States. This should help in stay in Korea and enjoy endless bottles of soju and Korean BBQ!


Prize money is taxed in Korea, though tax rate is only 4.4% in Korea. (If I googled correctly..)

Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
December 07 2010 13:55 GMT
#5632
Didnt get to watch the games due to work, so I just wanna say FUCK YEAH FROZENARBITER!
ModeratorHi! I'm a .signature *virus*! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread!
cordlc
Profile Joined November 2010
United States360 Posts
December 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#5633
On December 07 2010 22:44 Grummler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:37 42bsk wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:36 Grummler wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:34 42bsk wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:30 Grummler wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:12 Entropic wrote:
On December 07 2010 22:11 Fukinkou wrote:
So, how much is Jinro to get MINIMUM for getting to RO4?


around 12k I think? I know 1st place is 86k, 2nd place around 26k


He gets 6600€. Dont know how much thats in $, but i guess somewhere around $9000


It's... OVER 9000!


9000 what? cookies, automatons,..? Its definitely 6600€. And its $8800, i just checked it. But in won its more than 9000...


Please, mere details do not stand in the way of legendary memes.


I dont even get... Well, atleast you doubled your post count with this "discussion". If you have problems with numbers: Making it through to the RO4 made Jinro get more money than most western tournaments offer for 1st place.


I could be wrong, but I think you're missing something - google "Over 9000" if you're confused

Grats to Jinro, close games. Really doubt he has a chance against MC (especially in a BO7), but no matter, making it this far is a good enough showing. Not my favorite SC2 foreigner, but I'm glad one of them made it this far
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
December 07 2010 13:59 GMT
#5634
On December 07 2010 22:54 oldahe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:18 Synneby wrote:
Zlatan Ibrahimović, Fredrik Ljungberg, Mats Sundin, Peter Forsberg, Robert Lindstedt, Björn Borg and fucking JINRO!

You just took your place among the big guns of Sweden bro!


And Ingemar Stenmark, of course. The one and only...


...and fucking Jan-Ove Waldner being the most famous (swedish) person in all of China.
Seriously you all suck.
cwae
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania42 Posts
December 07 2010 14:03 GMT
#5635
YEAAAAAAAAAA JINRO !!!!!! I am so f***ing happy for him right now !!!!!!! I hope he can concentrate under pressure and go all the way ! Anyone know where i can see the games because gomtv doesnt work for me at work .
Dota profile : poInT | Blitz for Korean president !!
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
December 07 2010 14:03 GMT
#5636
On December 07 2010 22:54 oldahe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:18 Synneby wrote:
Zlatan Ibrahimović, Fredrik Ljungberg, Mats Sundin, Peter Forsberg, Robert Lindstedt, Björn Borg and fucking JINRO!

You just took your place among the big guns of Sweden bro!


And Ingemar Stenmark, of course. The one and only...


Yes indeed, can't post a bunch of big name swedes and leave out the greatest man to ever have walked on planet earth. Might be a generation thing, but still! I have met Ingemar in real life and have his autograph, one of my most important possessions.


That aside, congratulations again to Jinro, you're great!
craz3d
Profile Joined August 2005
Bulgaria856 Posts
December 07 2010 14:04 GMT
#5637
JIIIIINNNRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

Holy shit, I think he has what it takes to win it all!
Hello World!
grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
December 07 2010 14:04 GMT
#5638
Grats Jinro!
We make signature, then defense it.
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
December 07 2010 14:06 GMT
#5639
How the hell I missed todays games I thought they are on friday........
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
enemy2010
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Germany1972 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-07 14:10:47
December 07 2010 14:09 GMT
#5640
On December 07 2010 22:44 Grummler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 22:37 42bsk wrote:

Please, mere details do not stand in the way of legendary memes.


I dont even get... Well, atleast you doubled your post count with this "discussion". If you have problems with numbers: Making it through to the RO4 made Jinro get more money than most western tournaments offer for 1st place.


[Facepalm meme edited out]

User was warned for this post
1on1 auf azze no he no flash no awp only holztor. | Ja, da meint der ich hätt' abgeschmatzt, aber dat is Quatsch, verstehste?
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