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Zaurus
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore676 Posts
December 06 2010 15:38 GMT
#2961
On December 07 2010 00:29 hmunkey wrote:
Well shit. This sucks. How many of the T and P wins were all-in moves?


Some of the games FD won was also all-in. and hongun prime did not all in today. DT is a valid strat, 1 base play is a valid strat. I think zerg need to start the game w 2 base, so they will stop qqing
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 15:43:11
December 06 2010 15:42 GMT
#2962
Lol Im a Terran player but Rain is totally bad he won by just doing all in. He would move his marines around to his 3rd while leaving his base completely naked to mutas, its like hurr durrr. Marine King is twice the player Rain is. Fruitdealer just played bad, 1 based 3 out of the 5 games
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 15:45:19
December 06 2010 15:44 GMT
#2963
On December 07 2010 00:35 McDonalds wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2010 23:55 Heimatloser wrote:
nestea vs rain reminds of flash vs effort.
where flash lost to 3 8poolsrushes in a row to lose the series 2:3
after that series flash never forgot to scout cheese and prepare for it.
after that series flash was finally "immune to cheese"
hope the same thing applies to ZergBong/NesTea

Effort was good. He continued to punish Flash after that series, despite being in a sort of post-championship slump. Someone once commented that he was the anti-Flash, and even though I find that a bit too dismissive, it describes what happened between them well.

NesTea really isn't a Flash. They might both go for THA ECON-CHZ but NesTea's win in GSL2 was defined more by his opponent's mistakes than his own successes, in my opinion.


Nestea was superior through the entire GSL 2 except for the finals, that last game in the finals could have been the other way around as well.

If Nestea pulled some drones today and killed the scv (8hp) or the bunker it would have been a very different game.
I had a good night of sleep.
mols0n
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada388 Posts
December 06 2010 15:45 GMT
#2964
On December 07 2010 00:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 00:35 McDonalds wrote:
On December 06 2010 23:55 Heimatloser wrote:
nestea vs rain reminds of flash vs effort.
where flash lost to 3 8poolsrushes in a row to lose the series 2:3
after that series flash never forgot to scout cheese and prepare for it.
after that series flash was finally "immune to cheese"
hope the same thing applies to ZergBong/NesTea

Effort was good. He continued to punish Flash after that series, despite being in a sort of post-championship slump. Someone once commented that he was the anti-Flash, and even though I find that a bit too dismissive, it describes what happened between them well.

NesTea really isn't a Flash. They might both go for THA ECON-CHZ but NesTea's win in GSL2 was defined more by his opponent's mistakes than his own successes, in my opinion.


Nestea was superior through the entire GSL 2 except for the finals, that last game in the finals could have been the other way around as well.

If Nestea pulled some drones today and killed the scv (8hp) or the bunker it would have been a very different game.


I agree, huge blunder not to bring his drones, or even his lings early to stop that bunker from going up. cost him that 5th game
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
December 06 2010 15:51 GMT
#2965
Whenever the game proceeded normally, Rain got way, way behind--not for anything in particular he was doing wrong. The only way he was going to win that series was through all-ins. Maybe in part it's due to NesTea being a greedy, greedy Zerg.
Random()
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
December 06 2010 15:52 GMT
#2966
Disappointing quality of games to be honest. GomTv needs to fix the map situation asap.
Yoz
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia357 Posts
December 06 2010 15:53 GMT
#2967
On December 07 2010 00:34 koppik wrote:
So the Zerg streak has been broken!

It would be amazing if we got a PvP finals.


I laughed reading that second line. It would be pretty amazing, and I guess possible at this stage. Although the thought of it seems so absurd at this point in time.

SEA Ladder used to be dominated by Protoss... I stopped playing after Patch 1.1 til recently, and I dunno where all the Ps went.. I think they got eaten by the Zergs =\
Special Endrey
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1929 Posts
December 06 2010 15:55 GMT
#2968
"he didn't translate aligator lol"

haha


i thought the zvp was good

and i mean about the zvt

nestea was too stupid thinking he would survive allt he time goging hatch 1st
This signature is ruining eSports - -Twitter: @SpecialEndrey
koppik
Profile Joined April 2010
United States676 Posts
December 06 2010 15:57 GMT
#2969
On December 07 2010 00:53 Yoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 00:34 koppik wrote:
So the Zerg streak has been broken!

It would be amazing if we got a PvP finals.


I laughed reading that second line. It would be pretty amazing, and I guess possible at this stage. Although the thought of it seems so absurd at this point in time.

SEA Ladder used to be dominated by Protoss... I stopped playing after Patch 1.1 til recently, and I dunno where all the Ps went.. I think they got eaten by the Zergs =\
Really, I don't think either Jinro or Foxer can beat MC in TvP (but maybe MC's nerves will act up and he'll make some blunders). Rain vs. Hongun might actually be close. Rain has decent TvP, but I definitely think Hongun has the advantage.

IMO, a PvP finals is pretty likely at this stage.
my0s
Profile Joined March 2010
United States193 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 16:02:18
December 06 2010 16:00 GMT
#2970
On December 07 2010 00:55 Special Endrey wrote:
"he didn't translate aligator lol"

haha


i thought the zvp was good

and i mean about the zvt

nestea was too stupid thinking he would survive allt he time goging hatch 1st


I thought a bit about this, especially on steppes, which really seems like the only glaring mistake he made. But I think his logic was he was going to lose this map anyway, and if he pulled the early hatch off -- great. If not, oh well on to the next map. Which I almost cant blame him for that mentality.

*edit* on second though, he also had terrrrrrrible overlord management, maybe nerves? But he sure threw a lot of them away at more than one point, in more than one game.

Overall though Its basically taking all I have to hold back my feelings about this season of GSL. Mostly because I don't want to be banned. But I find it ironic that Ive seen such great, amazingly solid play from foreigners this season...... and the opposite of that from the majority of Korean players.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-06 16:05:57
December 06 2010 16:03 GMT
#2971
On December 07 2010 00:44 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2010 00:35 McDonalds wrote:
On December 06 2010 23:55 Heimatloser wrote:
nestea vs rain reminds of flash vs effort.
where flash lost to 3 8poolsrushes in a row to lose the series 2:3
after that series flash never forgot to scout cheese and prepare for it.
after that series flash was finally "immune to cheese"
hope the same thing applies to ZergBong/NesTea

Effort was good. He continued to punish Flash after that series, despite being in a sort of post-championship slump. Someone once commented that he was the anti-Flash, and even though I find that a bit too dismissive, it describes what happened between them well.

NesTea really isn't a Flash. They might both go for THA ECON-CHZ but NesTea's win in GSL2 was defined more by his opponent's mistakes than his own successes, in my opinion.


Nestea was superior through the entire GSL 2 except for the finals, that last game in the finals could have been the other way around as well.

If Nestea pulled some drones today and killed the scv (8hp) or the bunker it would have been a very different game.

Oh no, Flash fans STILL haven't gotten over this? For the last time, EffOrt deliberately all-inned once in that series, and all-inned in the final game when he had a huge lead, and wanted to put the game away.

Also, 2/2 liquidbet, Rain and HongUn are smart. What makes Rain different from BitByBit, by the way, is that he has plenty of other strategies, much better control, and all-ins or cheeses when the time is appropriate, not every game.

And how fitting were the teams in the final eight? TSL, oGs, Liquid, IM, Prime, and fOu.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
December 06 2010 16:06 GMT
#2972
I can't believe that both champions got knocked out!? Crazy .
Jedimonky
Profile Joined September 2010
United States56 Posts
December 06 2010 16:12 GMT
#2973
HongUnPrime.WE vs Jinro!!!!! :D Just please not a tvt or pvp


JINRO FIGHTING!!!!!
Ratel
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada184 Posts
December 06 2010 16:18 GMT
#2974
On December 07 2010 01:12 Jedimonky wrote:
HongUnPrime.WE vs Jinro!!!!! :D Just please not a tvt or pvp


JINRO FIGHTING!!!!!

THIS!!!!!
ill be happy if any of them gona win the finals :D
PikaXchU
Profile Joined December 2010
Singapore379 Posts
December 06 2010 16:19 GMT
#2975
Wow. Pretty amazed at the amount of trolls calling 'OP! NERF THIS, NERF THAT' and 'F****** CHEESE'. How is rushing to DTs cheese? How is preventing a zerg opponent from expanding cheese? If you go 4 gate in a PvP mirror, then throw a bunch of pylons in your opponent's base and begin warping in zealots, now that's what I call cheese, because there is just no way to hold of 4 gate with constant reinforcements, especially if it is in your base at your mineral line. FD could have gone to lair tech, expanded a bunch and got hydralisks and might have won in G4. Instead he decided to cancel lair tech, and try to end the game at that point in time, resulting in his loss due to HongUn's sick simcity play. DT rushing is NOT cheese. That damn Dark Shrine takes as long as a Nexus to complete. If you have more than a minute to scout that damn structure, and the counters are numerous, how is that a cheese?
Carrier has arrived.
Coldviolet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States110 Posts
December 06 2010 16:22 GMT
#2976
Honestly, whoever blames on 'cheese fest' I don't think they understand current SC2 mechanics. Assuming almost equivalent skills, there is no way for Terran to win 15min+ macro game against Zerg... :/ Spectators might want to watch the game they want but for pros that's a lot of money they are fighting for.
Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned.
Fa1nT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3423 Posts
December 06 2010 16:23 GMT
#2977
If the DT did nothing, Fruit was on 2 base vs HongUn on one base with almost no gateway units. Seem pretty all-in to me, and considering DT fit under the "if scouted, doesn't work" definition, DT rush is a perfect example of a cheese.
Endorsed
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands1221 Posts
December 06 2010 16:24 GMT
#2978
It's a cheese. Because it fails completely if scouted. Just like a 4 gate in a PvP mirror where you don't scout that inbase pylon.
universalwill
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States654 Posts
December 06 2010 16:35 GMT
#2979
haha, there go the two great zergs. i should be outraged right now, calling imbalance and blaming the patch that isn't out yet, but my dream for this GSL is a 4-0 JINROLL
awesomoecalypse
Profile Joined August 2010
United States2235 Posts
December 06 2010 16:37 GMT
#2980
Loved HongUn's simcity defense. He deserved to win just for that alone.

Hope MC stomps Marineking and Jinro beats Choya, and next round Hongun beats rain, assuring us either a PvP finals, or a PvJinro finals, either of which would be awesome
He drone drone drone. Me win. - ogsMC
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