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On December 06 2010 23:26 KevinIX wrote: I think Zergs are just too greedy. You don't need a 15 hatch to beat a Terran. Going pool first or even just getting a couple of spine crawlers doesn't hurt your economy that much.
lol people get spines, the push just hits before spines are up xD
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My liquibet is 7-0 this past week yay.
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Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow.
That's ridiculous. Did not expect these results.
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On December 06 2010 23:05 cuppatea wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 22:52 Endorsed wrote:On December 06 2010 22:49 cuppatea wrote: Watching Idra's stream and he's just lost to 2 SCV all-ins after going pool first so let's not pretend like pool first builds are a free win against double rax pressure. Those were on Delta Quadrant. Lost one was a delayed marine scv all in. He expected an expansion because terran play built a bunker at his natural so he droned up. It's really shitty for zerg right now with the 2 rax built. If you make too much zerglings and he expands, you are behind. If you make too much drones and he atacks. You are dead. Dunno why he didn't built like 2 spine crawlers. it was a good 5 min into the game and he could've gotten them up pretty easily. There was an earlier game against the same guy on Meta where he went pool first, made nothing but lings and still lost to the marine/SCV rush. It's not unbeatable but no one has found a hard counter yet, which makes all of these "lol just go pool first and it's over!" posts a little annoying.
i wonder how zerg was able to win back in the days when no one was going hatch first. Pool first doesn't mean you can't die to all-in ok? It's just mean that you can't be bunker rush because you have some zerglings to deny scvs and if you smell a all-in you have to put 1 or 2 spine crawler. Before the nerf of the 2-gate opening it was the same problem, you had to put at least one spine crawler to not die to a spam zealot from 2 gate.
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NesTea is teammates and practice partners with one of the best Terrans in the world, do you guys honestly think he hasn't practiced for this shit and tried out various builds to see what works?
Double rax pressure is a legitimately strong opening against any currently widely used Zerg build and it's not as simple as just "herp derp, pool first and win," as anyone who was watching Idra's stream today will attest (pool first, owned by marine/scv all ins multiple times).
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Map distribution :
<Lost Temple> TvZ : 0:1 PvZ : 1:0 < Steppes of War > TvZ 1:0 PvZ 0:1 < Shakuras Plateau > TvZ 0:1 PvZ 0:1 < Blistering Sands > TvZ 1:0 PvZ 1:0 < Xel'Naga Caverns > TvZ 1:0 < Scrap Station > PvZ 1:0
Both Zerg won Shakuras Plateau and both Zerg lost Blistering Sands. Just adding my 3.7 Cents.
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I just realised there are no more zergs in the tournament!!!! That means it will be a new race champion which is great!
Am I mean to be happy that zerg will not win?
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On December 06 2010 23:33 cuppatea wrote: NesTea is teammates and practice partners with one of the best Terrans in the world, do you guys honestly think he hasn't practiced for this shit and tried out various builds to see what works?
Double rax pressure is a legitimately strong opening against any currently widely used Zerg build and it's not as simple as just "herp derp, pool first and win," as anyone who was watching Idra's stream today will attest (pool first, owned by marine/scv all ins multiple times). You mean that particular "one of the best Terrans in the world" who failed to achieve Code S? (Just kidding)
On Topic: Laughing hard at TLO now. Is he going to switch back to terran?
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On December 06 2010 23:28 Heimatloser wrote: no fucking way, op trolling?
He tells no lies.
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is it possible to see the winning player interviews somewhere as VODs ? (I have a season ticket)
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woah I kept voting for the underdogs, but did not expect to be right o_o 82nd liqui
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On December 06 2010 23:46 Donttazemebro wrote: is it possible to see the winning player interviews somewhere as VODs ? (I have a season ticket) gomcam
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On December 06 2010 23:48 Twistacles wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 23:46 Donttazemebro wrote: is it possible to see the winning player interviews somewhere as VODs ? (I have a season ticket) gomcam thanks, but looks like they stopped doing that a month ago. Imo they should just have it in the normal VODs of the matches, where it says Set 1 2 3, the next button should just be "match winner interview"
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nestea vs rain reminds of flash vs effort. where flash lost to 3 8poolsrushes in a row to lose the series 2:3 after that series flash never forgot to scout cheese and prepare for it. after that series flash was finally "immune to cheese" hope the same thing applies to ZergBong/NesTea
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If it helps ease the pain, if FD vs. HUP was ro64-ro16. . . FD would have won
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On December 06 2010 23:55 Heimatloser wrote: nestea vs rain reminds of flash vs effort. where flash lost to 3 8poolsrushes in a row to lose the series 2:3 after that series flash never forgot to scout cheese and prepare for it. after that series flash was finally "immune to cheese" hope the same thing applies to ZergBong/NesTea
Flash lost because he took two heavy risks in game 4 (BBS) and game 5 (blind 14CC) and none of them payed off. That's Flash: he takes risks, cuts corners, and does whatever possible to win and sometimes it just doesn't work and he looks like a retard in the process. Sometimes it does work and that results in Jaedong getting squished into a pulp by three 14CCs in a row or something similar.
Nestea didn't do anything out of the ordinary, just poor preparation really so not even close to the same situation.
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On December 06 2010 23:20 Darhaja wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 23:14 Crissaegrim wrote: Ugh to all those complaining about how "hard" zerg is. If anyone should complain it should be the toss players. Srsly, 2 GSL winners were zergs and STILL people whine about how "nerfed" zerg is? If these two GSL players lost, then grats to the winners. To be fair tester did amazing in GSL S1 (top 4) and hes an amazing player only in season 2 did protoss not deliver. Dunno why u had to bring up why zergs hard thats just going to make people troll you, also yes hongun played very well... TSL_Rain not so much but i mean its only 87 grand anyways we as spectators only want to see the most deserving player win, which IMO should be jinro or MC bec they have shown the most solid play out of everyone all season.
No he didn't get top4. He got top8...
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My wish for GSL 3 is: That we not only have a winner with a new race. It's time that we have a foreigner as the new champ. Hope that Jinro makes it to the finals and is victorious.
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On December 07 2010 00:02 FreedonNadd wrote: My wish for GSL 3 is: That we not only have a winner with a new race. It's time that we have a foreigner as the new champ. Hope that Jinro makes it to the finals and is victorious. your wish already came true. 3 toss and 3 terrans left atm.
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