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SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10307 Posts
November 27 2010 12:58 GMT
#1121
On November 27 2010 21:54 Kantutan wrote:
Rest of the tournament is boring now. EU > KR > US servers.


fixed, also stop crying
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
November 27 2010 12:58 GMT
#1122
On November 27 2010 21:57 CryMeAReaper wrote:
I am amused by all the people acusing Naama of being an allin player. He got some gosu micro, why not exploit a situation where he sees a win? I'd dare to say its better to win dirty than to be a self constrained idiot.

Playing a straight up game with potential for it to be awesome is being a self-constrained idiot?
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
November 27 2010 12:58 GMT
#1123
I can't blame Naama for his play. I think the All-In in the end wasn't neccessary to begin with, he would have won without it I guess. He even expanded if I saw it right on the minimap.

Naama abused the mistakes of TOP and deserves the win as much as I don't like Naama. GL in the finals. TOP made so many mistakes, only one to blame for that loss is TOP himself.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
November 27 2010 12:58 GMT
#1124
On November 27 2010 21:56 Roggay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 21:54 gakkgakk wrote:
On November 27 2010 21:53 klauz619 wrote:
On November 27 2010 21:52 FuRong wrote:
Wow, oGsTop got outplayed straight up, no excuses in that last game. Never heard of Naama before this tournament, but he's certainly making a name for himself.


The guy all ins with 100% of his SCVs every game.

That's like all ining idra and saying you are RO8 material.


game 3 was not all in. He knew exactly what Top had, and he knew that if he sent scvs he could take him out. It was not all in at all.


Yes, pulling your Scvs is what you can call all-in. All-in = a play that wins you the game or lose you the game.


Well apparently Terran got no all in. Thanks to mules a Terran only needs to deal more damage than he would with a usual attack and losing 15-20 SCVs ist even that bad (unless he really loses all his army without killing expos, bases or workers.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-27 12:59:42
November 27 2010 12:58 GMT
#1125
Was rooting for TOP, but a loss is a loss. Hope he gets over whatever it is that makes him get sloppy and fail to qualify every season in gsl. He's always touted as having great results in inhouse practice iirc. Experience can help, so it's good he's joining more tournaments esp ones outside GSL.
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
razamanaz
Profile Joined August 2010
271 Posts
November 27 2010 12:58 GMT
#1126
On November 27 2010 21:56 resilve wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 21:52 Holgerius wrote:
Do not like all-ins, but I must say it's epic to see a european knocking out a korean. ^__^


I agree

I dont think naama is anything like europe's best terran - but its a really sweet boost for him and the community. Not just the european community - the whole western one.

Tyler taking a PvP game off InCa and a euro taking out TOP must really help foreign gamers in their confidence that koreans are not demi-gods who you shouldnt even consider being able to beat.



Do note that these Koreans came here just because they failed to get into GSL
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
November 27 2010 12:58 GMT
#1127
On November 27 2010 21:56 Skytalker wrote:
so Fenix is canadian french ? and only speaks french?

Try South America....
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
November 27 2010 12:59 GMT
#1128
On November 27 2010 21:54 Lylat wrote:
In the last game that wasn't an all in at all he brought like 10 scvs or something, this is part of the game, deal with it.

1 base, pulling like 10 SCV's vs a FE. If that isn't an all-in, I don't know what is. The fact that it was a good and successful all-in does not change that fact.

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Sewi
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Germany1697 Posts
November 27 2010 12:59 GMT
#1129
Please dont discuss the term "all-in" in this thread. Has been discussed sooo foten and is getting kind of boring....
"Well, things were going ok until he lost all his stuff" - Tasteless, 17.02.2016
Mortician
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Bulgaria2332 Posts
November 27 2010 12:59 GMT
#1130
They mispronounced Teelers name :/
"If anything, the skill cap in sc2 is higher [than sc1] because there are a lot more things you can do at one given time. " darmousseh
keioh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France1099 Posts
November 27 2010 12:59 GMT
#1131
So basically, hate against Naama because of All-in, because he could not have won had the game lasted... Well, I bet he knew that. Would you go on a long macro game if you know your opponent is better than you in the late game ? Not if you play for the win. Or else you're either too proud or too stupid. It's like saying Nadal was a cheap tennisman back when he counted on his power and stamina.
GIMME ALL THE BELGIAN WAFFLES I CAN GET FOR THIS MONEY !!!!!! BELGIAN WAFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFLEEEEEEEEES
dampv
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden83 Posts
November 27 2010 12:59 GMT
#1132
On November 27 2010 21:59 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 21:54 Lylat wrote:
In the last game that wasn't an all in at all he brought like 10 scvs or something, this is part of the game, deal with it.

1 base, pulling like 10 SCV's vs a FE. If that isn't an all-in, I don't know what is. The fact that it was a good and successful all-in does not change that fact.



He had an expansion though.
Madder
Profile Joined February 2010
Australia427 Posts
November 27 2010 12:59 GMT
#1133
On November 27 2010 21:58 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 21:54 Kantutan wrote:
Rest of the tournament is boring now. KR > US > EU servers.

Yeah sure, so far this tournament clearly shows you're right

So far, this tournament or any other tournament outside of Korea clearly shows no ladder region superiority at all.
BlazingInferno
Profile Joined November 2010
India272 Posts
November 27 2010 13:00 GMT
#1134
Yeah, I can agree that Game 2 was all-in but how can people call Game 3 All-in. They don't know what they're talking about. He had enough to support off two bases and he built his second base when he was pushing. How the f*** is that all-in? It was just a good timing push because he knew that once he kept out that initial push from Top, he had a window where Top would be unable to defend a push like that.

And to be fair, Top played not upto his standards in the third game. Losing two marauders and a marine for free. Making a Raven for no reason and then not making use of it. So, yeah, Top was not as invincible as he was made out to be.

So, yeah, in this game Naama outplayed Top. That is not to say Naama is the better player because we all know what Top is capable off. But Jesus, give Naama some fucking credit for knocking out one of the top Korean Pros.

And that is something most fanboys of Koreans will never accept. If a Korean all-in, then that is an amazing strategy, if any other person all-in against Koreans, then that person only knows how to all-in. Wake up people, this is a new game where everybody is starting with a level playing field and in a one-off game anybody can beat anybody.
NotSupporting
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden1998 Posts
November 27 2010 13:00 GMT
#1135
People need to get off their high horses and realize how you play RTS games, there is no fucking pride and honer in a Starcraft game, the goal is to win and that is what you aim to do. It's up to every single player to decide how to go around this and if someone thinks going "all in" is the best move then thats good. Stop looking down at people who play a risky game.
ToInfinity
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands61 Posts
November 27 2010 13:00 GMT
#1136
On November 27 2010 21:59 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 21:54 Lylat wrote:
In the last game that wasn't an all in at all he brought like 10 scvs or something, this is part of the game, deal with it.

1 base, pulling like 10 SCV's vs a FE. If that isn't an all-in, I don't know what is. The fact that it was a good and successful all-in does not change that fact.



he made an expo so he wasnt 1 base ..
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 27 2010 13:00 GMT
#1137
On November 27 2010 21:58 Madder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 21:57 CryMeAReaper wrote:
I am amused by all the people acusing Naama of being an allin player. He got some gosu micro, why not exploit a situation where he sees a win? I'd dare to say its better to win dirty than to be a self constrained idiot.

Playing a straight up game with potential for it to be awesome is being a self-constrained idiot?


Erm...yes. Purposefully not doing something you think will win because it wouldn't be as 'awesome' is being an idiot, when you're in a big tournament for a lot of money.

I didn't see the series, but I saw the last game and it was pretty baller.
_vladimir_
Profile Joined September 2010
Serbia530 Posts
November 27 2010 13:00 GMT
#1138
On November 27 2010 21:58 Cri du Chat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2010 21:53 Godstorm wrote:
On November 27 2010 21:51 SmoKim wrote:
shame that all the korean fanboi's are gonna cry endless rivers now T_T this was and awesome series and well deserved by Naama

because all-in proves how good a player is? Naama won it, i'm not denying that but that wasn't so impressive


Beating a korean pro is always imrepssive. I personally thought that all-inning would be a mistake, since the koreans play so agressive. They know a lot about all-ins :D.
The best koreans should be able to defend pretty well, but obviously i was wrong in this case.


God you are clueless, since when is Top "one of best Koreans" ... he even fails to qualify for two GSL in a row..for God sake...
MC:" 2nd game i all in, he drone he drone, me win."
Gigaudas
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Sweden1213 Posts
November 27 2010 13:00 GMT
#1139
On November 27 2010 21:52 doerit wrote:
Nice!

I was always wondering how Naama would do against the best players in the world while I was watching the Viking cups.


Glad to see he's doing well

There's a bunch of Terrans that have been kicking ass in the Nordic scene and Naama and SjoW have always been the scariest (and MorroW until the power of his Terran obviously dropped when he started practicing Zerg). SjoW has been going far in a few tournaments outside of the Nordic countries and I expected him to win. Nice seeing Naama make a splash :D

Plus it will give more weight to my words when I consider the Nordic when saying that Terran is the best race in both their match ups
I
insult
Profile Joined August 2008
59 Posts
November 27 2010 13:00 GMT
#1140
Heartbroken wannabe-koreans ITT.
Xeris: "Think of Haypro for example (this is purely speculative about his actual mindset/decisionmaking): he could probably win a majority of the weekly cups on EU/NA"
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