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dtz
5834 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:58 ZekZ wrote: thats why fenix is in top 4 hardly loosing games olool well technically he said NA T's Fenix is from Peru which is from South America although there is only 1 Euro T as well ( Naama) so not sure what he's talking about there. | ||
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Lockindal
United States73 Posts
I still can't believe he walked so many probes right in front of the hellions in a big line.... | ||
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:57 Yusername wrote: I've got noone left to cheer for now. Screw this tournament! Ill just cheer for Naama to win vs TOP. Then I dont care what happens. I just dont want another korean win! =_= | ||
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PredY
Czech Republic1731 Posts
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:46 G.s)NarutO wrote: You realise that it was a huge mistake by NonY but not imbalance? Clustering up all probes against blue-flame hellions - come on. All respect for NonY, but no one but him to blame for this huge mistake / probe loss. ... preventable=/= balanced. name me one equally easily made terran mistake that would equal in consequences. And there is also the consideration of the fact that this is a unit simply too volatile and/or luck based to be a part of competitive gaming. | ||
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Lachrymose
Australia1928 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:58 Troopi wrote: what i really like with fenix is that hes not turtling like its often common. this perma aggression is fun to watch a couple of harrass units on the map and everything else in defensive formation behind some bunkers is so anti-turtle how? | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On the plus side, you get to see them in proper quality. | ||
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ZenDeX
Philippines2916 Posts
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BenKen
United States860 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:58 Holgerius wrote: May I ask, why doesn't Protoss players incorporate a fast Forge in their builds? It will prevent you from autolosing to Banshees and you can start your upgrades really fast. Because it's a noob thing to do, and it slows down tech and unit production. That said, if I scout tech lab on starport I drop a forge. I'm ok with being called a noob, and I've never thought "man, if I didn't build that forge I would have won". | ||
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sleepingdog
Austria6145 Posts
 Also no, hellions are not imbalanced, they are pretty much a harassment-only unit that dies incredibly fast. Banshees are far worse, they kill your probes AND are amazing in "real" battles too. Moreover, in this game it was CLEARLY the probe-stack that did the damage, nothing else. Furthermore Tyler failed with his pylon-placement, the hellions got throught BOTH on top of the pylon AND below the stalker. If this had been a zergling-runby nobody would've screamed imbalance. Stop. Nevertheless this game made me realize, how little terrans have figured out TvP due to constant MMM play....the harassment-potential is so huge and fenix even did have bad macro the last game, getting supply-blocked multiple times (once even right when he wanted to start producing the first hellion). | ||
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Rammstorm
Germany1434 Posts
Seriously, thath tyler needs more APM to see hellions sneaking and proper wall... GG Fenix! | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Really disappointed by Morrow overall though, although I guess his T is still alot better than his Z. I guess I'll just cheer for Naama because he is Finnish. | ||
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Ultramus
United States319 Posts
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Blaec
Australia4289 Posts
On November 27 2010 20:02 TotalBiscuit wrote: Apparently Day9 was not able to cast ServaNT vs Naama, Dreamhack is sending me the replays to cast on Youtube. These will be done as my first priority today. There's not really time to cast them live without overlapping Day9's RO4 casting, which would be a dumb thing to do. On the plus side, you get to see them in proper quality. Thank you Mr Biscuit | ||
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Malhorn
United States148 Posts
On November 27 2010 20:02 TotalBiscuit wrote: Apparently Day9 was not able to cast ServaNT vs Naama, Dreamhack is sending me the replays to cast on Youtube. These will be done as my first priority today. There's not really time to cast them live without overlapping Day9's RO4 casting, which would be a dumb thing to do. On the plus side, you get to see them in proper quality. Keep up the great work TB!! Love the casts :D | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:56 PredY wrote: how about tight pylonwalls (nony had none) and warpin units? Warping takes way too long and in early-mid game it's impossible to warp in the needed amount of units to defend against any half serious harassment when the main army is out. The wall could've helped on this particular map in this game in that one particular situation, but it's hardly a solution for the general mobility problem. | ||
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Paver
Australia105 Posts
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bokeevboke
Singapore1674 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:56 PredY wrote: how about tight pylonwalls (nony had none) and warpin units? From my experience warpin units die instantly. They don't come with full health. And 4 marauders+medivac kill any 5-6 gateway units. Why you denying so hard that there is a problem in early and late game? blizzard already admitted it. | ||
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Lucius2
Germany548 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:59 superjoppe wrote: Same thing would have happened with lurker or storm in BW. It's NOT a slight mistake to stack All your workers into the same place. with the slight difference that lurkers and storm actually require some tech and dont cost a whopping 100 mins each and are as fast as speedlings | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
On November 27 2010 19:57 susySquark wrote: I don't care about balance or not, that kind of hellion damage just FEELS unfair. It's bad for the game, that making one slight mistake can cost you 30 supply in 1 second. To 200 minerals of units. I can understand misclicking your probes into a tankline being a huge blunder, but those hellions were just DIRTY. Same as dt drops in bw. Fenix distracted Tyler with the banshee and got sick kills off of 2 hellions with upgrades. I know it might FEEL DIRTY but Fenix created that opportunity and took it. | ||
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