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On November 26 2010 21:27 Nightrain wrote: tosses so obsessed with colossi :< have you not seen the stats? gateway units get absolutely destroyed by MMM. Collosi are the only option to defend against mmm timing pushes
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Australia326 Posts
He got the observer out early, saw the one-base play, saw the banshees, tech-lab'd factory, and still went for 2gate colo expo?
Lmao. He just played poorly, please don't bring race into the discussion ffs.
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People are funny who think u can hold such a attack off with gateway units only haha, so u think the goood protoss rush colossi just for fun right? :D cuz they dont know better, and all korean protoss are wrong when they say T allins are imbalanced like hell.
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Damn, I went to watch the Zero and Hogil match and NexGenius gets 2-0'd so fast.
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On November 26 2010 21:27 Enervate wrote: The entire reason Genius loss was because he let his second colossi get sniped. 2 colossi are a critical mass as they 1 hit marines and scvs.
That and 1 didn't come out. He should have been uphill there. Then he would have saved 2 collusus and he would have higher ground.
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It's amazing how every time a Terran 1 base all-ins a superior player out of a tournament, Terran players manage to twist it into a sign of their race's weakness. Terrans don't 1 base all-in because their race is awful past the 10 minute mark, they do it because their all-ins are extremely powerful and and easy to execute.
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I feel really sorry for Protoss, from 27 protoss in GSL 1, to this, it just keeps getting worse and worse.. I'm zerg player and fan, and we zergs know how it is being beaten by everyone, and in small numbers, like it was before Cool came and save us. I wish Protoss some "savior" in near feature too, this game is much better with equal distribution of sucsessfull players in all 3 race.
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I'd be the first to point out the problems Protoss face against Terran, but to be honest that game wasn't really decided by any kind of imbalance.
Genius knew the push was coming, but yet he still chose to expand AND tech at the same time...of course he was never gonna have enough units to hold it off.
It's a pity that he's gone, I would rather have him as a Toss representative in the ro16 than this random Squirtle guy, but I guess that's not the way things panned out.
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lol poopfist. Best name ever.
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I love all these people giving GSL-caliber Toss player advice on how to deal with all-ins. More Zealots, Stalkers, and Sentries would easily fall to a big Siege Tank/Marine/Raven push.
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On November 26 2010 21:26 On_Slaught wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2010 21:24 Obbalord wrote: fucking ridic unstopable allin
and still no patch from blizzard
Almost positive Blizzard said protoss was getting nerfed in the next patch. Storm in particular.
Oh that would be fantastic, make it a two race game.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
Yeah that build isn't unstoppable guys... You can watch the most recent go4sc2 final (nightend vs some terran) to see how to stop it...
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poopfist024 LOL
Why do John and Jay ALWAYS pick the 420 names lol? they must be stoners.
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On November 26 2010 21:28 Obbalord wrote: People are funny who think u can hold such a attack off with gateway units only haha, so u think the goood protoss rush colossi just for fun right? :D cuz they dont know better, and all korean protoss are wrong when they say T allins are imbalanced like hell.
yeah, this is so WTF just reading these posts. How are you supposed to defend that with just gateway units? You NEED Colossus...
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Why does he read these names...
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On November 26 2010 21:28 Pawshter wrote:Show nested quote +On November 26 2010 21:27 Nightrain wrote: tosses so obsessed with colossi :< have you not seen the stats? gateway units get absolutely destroyed by MMM. Collosi are the only option to defend against mmm timing pushes
Rain didn't go MMM. And Genius he saw exactly what Rain was doing. Everything.
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He lost because of the positional disadvantage with the siege tanks killing his buildings, including the robotics, and because he lost the second colossus right away when it spawned. Had nothing to do with "imbalance". Go back to battle.net forums or something.
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Genius in both games underestimates his oppenent aggression.
Game 1: understanable. Cause he thought he had it under control when he scouted his oppneent.game 1 neverous blah blah. Game 2: He should of saw this coming a mile away. He had an observer but still took the risk of expoing rather spending it on building an army.
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On November 26 2010 21:28 Zaurus wrote: is not all in because of mules. phoenix might have helped, but protoss is just so weak early game.
If he went phoenix he would have had even less ground and the terran could just get cloak without a robo.
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i just want maps with the size and layout of bw maps and series like that will happen A LOT less...
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