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Hmm thought I signed up for this must not have oh well. Will stay tune ^^
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We will see if Duffman can actually take it this time, we have a lot of really competitive players this go round.
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Couple new players added today.
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Full Coverage of the Tournament begins @ 7PM Eastern Monday Night!
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in upcoming events this says it starts in 5 hours is this true? wasnt it on monday :o sorry if i missed it
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Monday @ 7PM Eastern still, that was old due to holidays I changed the actual timing cuz people were on vacation and out of town over the weekend.
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iNcontroL
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my guy is dodging me real bad lol.. won't respond. And I can't play at the start time 
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Looks like it is going to be a nice tourney. Nice job setting it up and good luck to all the players!
Without looking at the bracket calling an Incontrol vs Catz finals!
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why am i not in this? I confirmed 50 billion times on the xbl site, where you told us to confirm our spots...lol.
Unless you felt like also bad mannering me out of the tournament, just like you bad manner commentated me?
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I am confused...
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Avilo u still have it on battle.net where its ignoring me. I can't contact you at all and cant message you. Now who's fault is that. I have had 2-3 people pm u telling you to unignore me so I can add you and its still on the Ignored. That is why you are not on the list.
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I haven't been on battlenet...and under the rules it said to go to the XBL site there and confirm. Which I did weeks previous to now, and then 2 more times within the past 2 weeks or so.
And sent multiple PM's to you on here. All have been ignored on the XBL site apparently. Obviously if i somehow clicked ignore onto you on bnet I would have no idea if you were contacting me there, not to mention I haven't been on bnet in the past 2-3 days or so. That's sort of a moot point though - I do not understand how I am not on this list when I confirmed I would play in the "OFFICIAL XBL $500 CONFIRMATION THREAD" on the XBL site. As well as posting many times here on TL asking, "when the hell is this tournament?" which had no date listed.
So you're telling me it's my fault that since the last XBL tourney I confirmed I'd play, then I confirmed x3 times in the XBL thread on your site, and PM'd you multiple times, no response at either place, as well as posting here in these XBL threads on TL (no response here either until today)....
that is my fault? You bad mannered me as a commentator, which I was entirely cool about, even though it was ridiculously unprofessional and disrespectful to me and my opponent, but this doesn't help add to your credibility streak.
So yeah, I'm pissed that I'm suddenly not in this cash tourney when I signed up weeks ago, and confirmed on the XBL site via the rules ages ago as well. This is the first time you've gotten back to me since I confirmed in the "$500 XBL TOURNAMENT CONFIRMATION THREAD" on the XBL site.
Maybe you just have something against me personally? Because for me to not get in this after having confirmed weeks ago is pretty BS man.
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GOGO ROOT! 
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United States2095 Posts
Thanks Anatoliy ! Also how many rounds might I ask are we going to play on Monday ?
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Its just gonna be round of 64 tonight.
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On November 29 2010 13:48 avilo wrote:
I haven't been on battlenet...and under the rules it said to go to the XBL site there and confirm. Which I did weeks previous to now, and then 2 more times within the past 2 weeks or so.
And sent multiple PM's to you on here. All have been ignored on the XBL site apparently. Obviously if i somehow clicked ignore onto you on bnet I would have no idea if you were contacting me there, not to mention I haven't been on bnet in the past 2-3 days or so. That's sort of a moot point though - I do not understand how I am not on this list when I confirmed I would play in the "OFFICIAL XBL $500 CONFIRMATION THREAD" on the XBL site. As well as posting many times here on TL asking, "when the hell is this tournament?" which had no date listed.
So you're telling me it's my fault that since the last XBL tourney I confirmed I'd play, then I confirmed x3 times in the XBL thread on your site, and PM'd you multiple times, no response at either place, as well as posting here in these XBL threads on TL (no response here either until today)....
that is my fault? You bad mannered me as a commentator, which I was entirely cool about, even though it was ridiculously unprofessional and disrespectful to me and my opponent, but this doesn't help add to your credibility streak.
So yeah, I'm pissed that I'm suddenly not in this cash tourney when I signed up weeks ago, and confirmed on the XBL site via the rules ages ago as well. This is the first time you've gotten back to me since I confirmed in the "$500 XBL TOURNAMENT CONFIRMATION THREAD" on the XBL site.
Maybe you just have something against me personally? Because for me to not get in this after having confirmed weeks ago is pretty BS man.
http://xblgaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3771-XBLGaming-s-Best-Buy-500-Tournament/page4
http://xblgaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3843-Confirm-Your-Spot-For-The-Tournament!
http://xblgaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3843-Confirm-Your-Spot-For-The-Tournament!/page3
To: Brandon33470 [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: can you confirm me for 500 buck player
Date: 11/21/10 07:43
i confiemd on xbl site, dunno if you saw, can you confirm me for tonight from here
To: Brandon33470 [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: when is the 500 dollar singles tournament??
Date: 11/21/10 11:03
I was wondering when this was, and if there was another 1k one?
To: Brandon33470 [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: im in ur 500 bucko tournametn
Date: 11/27/10 07:27
I posted like 2-3 times to confirm me...CONFIRM ME PLEASE! I'd rather not get ganked out of the tournament!
-avilo
To: Brandon33470 [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: is tournament tonight
Date: 11/27/10 10:17
IS THE 500 DOLLA TOURNAMENT TONIGHT?
To: Brandon33470 [ Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Re: Hey
Date: 11/29/10 07:07
And why does it not show me in the 500 buck tourney? I posted literally 3 times on the xbl forums confirming.
From: Brandon33470 [ 106 posts | Profile | Buddy ]
Subject: Hey
Date: 11/29/10 06:43
I keep trying to contact you and it still says ur ignoring me in game. Try unblocking communication.
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Then your bullshit in this thread:
On November 29 2010 13:36 Brandon33470 wrote:
Avilo u still have it on battle.net where its ignoring me. I can't contact you at all and cant message you. Now who's fault is that. I have had 2-3 people pm u telling you to unignore me so I can add you and its still on the Ignored. That is why you are not on the list.
Are you fucking serious?
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iNcontroL
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anybody see my post in here about my opponent dodging ?
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On November 30 2010 04:52 {88}iNcontroL wrote:anybody see my post in here about my opponent dodging ?
I saw it incontrol! lmao...
The tournament guy conveniently ignores posts/PMs/communication on xbl site for weeks on end...hmm...
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I tried contacting you last night InControl on battle.net, you were already away. I was gonna tell you that I couldn't contact him either and that you would be advancing due to an inactive member. Avilo I will contact you tonight to get you in the tournament as well make sure I am not on ignore.
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On November 30 2010 05:15 Brandon33470 wrote:
I tried contacting you last night InControl on battle.net, you were already away. I was gonna tell you that I couldn't contact him either and that you would be advancing due to an inactive member. Avilo I will contact you tonight to get you in the tournament as well make sure I am not on ignore.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WOULD BE GREAT!
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Question is there any chat or something we should log into when the tournament starts?
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I PM'd you here, add me on bnet, it seems you aren't even on my friends list for some reason.
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So am I in this or not? You have me as a listed player, but you don't have me in the ro64 bracket.
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bo1 or bo3 in ro64?
and i guess its vetoing maps?
the rules arent very clear on the website
edit: nvm looking at wrong forum
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So many Canadians, many of which competed at the Canadian Cup yesterday. KICK SOME ASS, GUYS!
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any word on when ro32 will be?
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Tuesday night 7PM Eastern
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Hmmm I'm not going to be able to make the designated time today, I have school/a speech I need to do for school from 2:00-8:00 PST. Just wondering if I could do the games a bit later in the day. This is Qwerty.568, my opponent is Capoch.
I have not been able to talk to Capoch about it yet, he hasn't been on.
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hey, just seen the msg. I'll be on at 7PM EST, if u want to we can play our games at 8 PM EST? or 8:30PM EST? please let me know... I'll be online from 7PM EST anyway.
glhf
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incontrol forfeitted?
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The Round of 32 Concluded tonight with a 2-1 Victory by OptikZero over ROOTQXC
The round of 16 will take place Thursday @ 7PM Eastern Time with matches such as
InflowMini vs. InflowLooky
EGLzGamer vs. ROOTCatz
NGry vs. OpTikZeRo
Capoch vs. sixjaxnewsh
AllAboutYou vs. ROOTKiwikaki
VTAttero vs. ROOTSlush
ROOTDdoro vs. NOVAStalife
KawaiiRice vs. bLur
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Dang, gratz on the free win Capoch =P
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iNcontroL
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On December 01 2010 10:52 UnholyRai wrote:incontrol forfeitted?
I guess. Gf's grandfather was dying in the hospital and they didn't reach out to me at all so they just w/o'd me.
lol
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^ Would like your thoughts on this as well.
Good luck to Minigun, Looky, and Capoch. Sucks for Mini and Looky though Atleast one of you noobs will go on though xD
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as skullz' attorney, i advise you to explain theeself!
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On December 01 2010 14:58 donut boi wrote:
as skullz' attorney, i advise you to explain theeself!
he doesn't need an attorney, i'm his in-house counsel
and by denying his "wager" in a "game of skill" that does not fall under the lottery acts and statutes you are exposed to legal infractions in case law relating to gaming and contract laws
better lawyer yourself up XBLGaming!!!!
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You guys have no idea what you're talking about, the casting has no excitement, it's just a chore to watch. I really don't understand why you would want to try to become a commentator when you don't even know the basic strategy and "metagame" of any of the races.
You guys don't give any insight, don't properly discuss the builds, and it's just "commentating on the things you see on the screen" and doesn't go in-depth at all. There's just play-by-play, and even the play-by-play is terrible. But I guess that's one reason for you to host your own tournament, since I'm rather certain no one would let you cast their tournaments. I really would suggest playing some more before starting to commentate.
In addition to that, you're making the players wait around extended periods of time. Most seem really confused and you ignore people who message you. You want to cast every single game live and everyone has to wait without knowing what's going on while you cast? You really need some more co-hosts and so on... I guess that's just a couple of the problems I see with this tournament. The biggest one is casting though, by far. Some things to think about...
EDIT: kk
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Already posted in the other thread it was all a misunderstanding and I close out a ton of chats. I am getting messages from 64 people at one time and trying to stream and keep the broadcast running. I am readding TQSKullz back into the Tournament. As I made a mental mistake. I myself am apart of TQ and have been creating a website for them and everything as well as helping Zander with tournaments when I can. In no means did I mean to screw TQSkullz.
Bracket has been corrected.
User was temp banned for this post.
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uhh yeah also you gave incontrol a walkover vs me when i couldnt add him maybe cause his identifier is wrong or something and he also did not contact me and when i messaged you i had got no response.
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On December 01 2010 17:27 OwMyGroin wrote:
uhh yeah also you gave incontrol a walkover vs me when i couldnt add him maybe cause his identifier is wrong or something and he also did not contact me and when i messaged you i had got no response.
You should PM Plexa about this.
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This whole tournament is very fishy , easy way to ruin a organizations reputation.
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On December 01 2010 16:54 Brandon33470 wrote:
Already posted in the other thread it was all a misunderstanding and I close out a ton of chats. I am getting messages from 64 people at one time and trying to stream and keep the broadcast running. I am readding TQSKullz back into the Tournament. As I made a mental mistake. I myself am apart of TQ and have been creating a website for them and everything as well as helping Zander with tournaments when I can. In no means did I mean to screw TQSkullz.
Bracket has been corrected.
let me get this straight; not only did you close a ton of chats without replying to let the people know whats going on, your fucking up the brackets even more to bring him back, and then your following it up with BS to salvage your rep
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
I would appreciate if the debate from the incident didn't spill over into this thread. The staff are discussing where we go from here and there's no need to bring that mess into this thread at this point.
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Seems that the answer is "Brandon can't properly handle the tourney".
There got to be somebody helping him actively!
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As a general feedback for the tournament, I think you were casting with Response (?). You two were sort of out-of-sync...constantly interrupting each other and not even finishing each others' thought.
For example, you would start talking about the importance of securing a specific location, then he would start on "oh he's now starting this upgrade" rather than continue and elaborate on your statement.
In short, the two of you lack chemistry and made observing a bit frustrating because you were pulling each other in different directions. I think both of you are capable of casting on your own, but together doesn't seem to be a good combination at the moment. Just something to work on.
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ddoro, can we play our match little bit later? I have work until 5~5:30 PM PST and by the time I get home, it'll be like 6:00 PM PST Let me know please !
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Why aren't you rooting for your teammate! haha
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Are these the game guys as the ones who plan matches less than a day in advance, and then get angry when players can't make (see Fenix)? And who insult non-pro players live on stream? If they keep this up, they're gonna crash&burn faster than bigt.
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I was watching the tournament a couple of weeks back... Was watching the Avilo v. Rei series live. I know it's been said many times, but he was getting pretty ruthless on the players (I'm sure both of them would roll him up, btw). And now I'm reading about this... I haven't watched since the Avilo v. Rei series, and I don't plan on watching going forward (not that this matters). If I do, it will be on mute, that's for sure. Based on the night I did watch, it doesn't sound too far off base for Brandon to drop a lesser known player and add back in a more well known LZ.
Just my $0.02
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I'll continue to watch the streams regardless of all the e-drama going on. As long as the tournament hosters continue to learn from their mistakes and make progress I am all for it. The prize pools are decent, the games are competitive, and these guys are making a genuine effort to contribute and get better.
On a side note, the RO16 is on the upcoming events for tonight but your post says that the RO16 will be on Thursday at 7:00. Please confirm one or the other.
Thanks.
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Alright guys, it's obvious with any new tournament there will be teething problems. Cut Brandon some slack, he's a single guy running these things, don't worry thing's will get smoother in future tournaments. He's obviously doing the best he can and I think he's doing a stand up job. There may need to be some stricter and clearer rules on the system of who to disqualify/free pass etc, and I'm sure Brandon is thinking of solutions.
Moving onto my main reason for posting, could you please run these tournaments a couple to a few hours earlier? The current timing is terrible for any Europeans, and i don't believe it's practical for the gamers either running these at "prime" time in the US.
Anyway, great work and keep it up.
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On December 02 2010 07:33 Meatnose wrote:
On a side note, the RO16 is on the upcoming events for tonight but your post says that the RO16 will be on Thursday at 7:00. Please confirm one or the other..
I specifically asked you yesterday when the next round would be played and you told me "tomorrow @ 7:00 pm est", and now I see your post says Thursday and you're not online so.....??????
As others have stated, this tour has been nothing but a negative experience so far from my experience
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sorry inc don't worry you're not missing too much
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So is the RO16 tonight or tomorrow night?
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On December 02 2010 10:00 stalife wrote:
So is the RO16 tonight or tomorrow night?
Hope we can get some clarification shortly.
I'd like to know as well.
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Thursday 7PM EST, thats what Brandon said.
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Capoch is correct: Thursday 7PM EST. Brandon spent Wednesday with his fiancee.
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On December 01 2010 18:10 Plexa wrote:
I would appreciate if the debate from the incident didn't spill over into this thread. The staff are discussing where we go from here and there's no need to bring that mess into this thread at this point.
Sorry about that, I should have thought better.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
After much discussion we do not believe that this tournament reaches an acceptable level of professionalism for it to be featured on TL.net. Further, his most recent actions in combination with some of the actions that brandon has done in the past (including plagiarism of TL content), he will be banned for 2 weeks. Lastly, we will continue to not feature any tournament associated with Brandon until it can be proven that he can run tournaments with an acceptable level of professionalism. We are not interested in hearing about previous tournaments that he has run and how great they were, we want to see him run new tournaments at an appropriate level of professionalism. Once he does that we can talk about featuring him again.
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