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On December 06 2010 13:43 wishbones wrote: FUCK S RANK!!!! im D R U N and K Rank on my birthday which officially ends in 19 minutes, btw gotta love tastosis they made me laugh about 100 times tonight thanks dudeeeeees! dudes*! yes there is no reeleveances to this thread i am sorry, do not ban meeeeeeeeeeeedrunk.........<3 i hesittate to press the post button so i type this now i probably will hit the post button, my keys feels slightly different i duno why, not the booze i just woke up froma 2 hour pour nap.
edit: i meant to spell power* kinda funny that i naturally spellt it pOUr. lol
^ This.
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The system definitely will ensure high quality players better than open registration. Its going to make it REALLY hard for foreigners to break in though.
You have to be high on the Korean ladder (probably impossible with latency issues so this means you have to move to Korea just to ladder for a chance to play against some A class players)
Wait a second.. Is this limited to Korean ladder ranking or all?
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Jinro climbing up the ladder!
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Australia8532 Posts
Awesome OP - appreciated 100%
Jinro is owning the ladder haha - can't wait until he wins GSL3 ..
So am i correct in saying Code S and Code A both get to compete next year in GSL tournaments? What is the benefit of being Code S or Code A in terms of eligibility into this league?
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On December 06 2010 17:09 Karmond wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 13:55 nikj wrote:On December 06 2010 13:40 aztrorisk wrote:On December 06 2010 11:12 nikj wrote:I think after GSL 4 the bottom 32 Code A have to Re-Qualify. So each GSL after that will have 32 "open" spots to qualify for Code A. edit: Actually Rampager was close to correct found this after a little searching: "Players that are ranked 1st through 32nd will be set as Code S and players that are ranked 33rd through 96th will be set as code A. After a league, the lower ranks of Code S players and the upper ranks of Code A players will play a match to decide their position for the next league. Also, the bottom 32 Code A players will have to play against top 32 Battle.net players to decide the Code A players for the next season." Found here: [Interview] The Philosophy of the GSL I don't like how they use the top 32 Battle.net players instead of hosting a preliminary like in the GSL Yea I'm not sure really how this will work. Considering the 64 people who secure spots in the GSL will likely be amongst the top 32 on the ladder. I am guessing somewhere in the top 100 may get you an inv. I would prefer to see the Bottom 32 Code A players get seeded in an open prelim like previous the GSLs as well. Assuming the Battle.net thing stays, it'll just be the 32 highest ranked people who put their name down. So even though you might be say... #54 on Battle.net you might be the 3rd highest person who entered. But they were talking on SotG about how in the top 15 Korean Battle.net players, only about 4 or 5 of them are well known (appeared in GSL or otherwise) such as MVP and MC. If the Battle.net thing goes ahead, that means we could see a lot of nobody's getting an automatic entry who are actually quite terrible in a live tournament setting.
If you look at the top 15 from the most recent top200 you will see that the top ladder players are infact some of the top players. Some of the names being in korean probably threw Incontrol off (and he and idrA like to cause a stir and say people are bad). Here is the list:
1 베스킨라빈스 (BaskinRobbins aka MarineKingPrime) 250 89 2 IMMvp 816 503 3 IMGanZi 777 622 4 oGsTOP 889 595 5 IMJunwiPirme 909 529 6 RyungPrime 881 690 7 NEXtaeJa 692 557 8 IMLosirA 1209 990 9 스타테일사운드 (ST_Sound) 1288 1029 9 티에스엘킬러 (TSL_Killer aka Sangho) 598 459 11 NvxiaOt 859 675 12 슬레이어스박서 (SlayerSBoxeR) 719 481 13 티에스엘과일장수 (TSL_FruitDealer) 624 423 14 IMNesTea 708 459 15 SeleCT 343 251
Most of them are very well known, and those that arent are in top teams such as Prime and IM And the next 5 which include two of the current GSL 3 semi finalists.
16 HongUnPrime 691 459 17 makaprime 699 479 18 oGsMC 503 317 19 oGsCezanne 521 377 20 한니발프라임 (HannibalPrime) 621 423
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Looks like there will only be 32 Code A spots.
http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/news/288
Not sure when they changed their mind about that, but according to the link there will be a playoff to determine Code A starting Dec 14. Bad news for Ret...
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Well they can do that. Just like they can change the rules if they think it's bad etc. Besides this means that the A league format might change too. So it's probably not going to be bo1 whole way to semi's or quarters.
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On December 08 2010 19:29 shannn wrote: Well they can do that. Just like they can change the rules if they think it's bad etc. Besides this means that the A league format might change too. So it's probably not going to be bo1 whole way to semi's or quarters.
Absolutely. Just thought it might be worth updating the OP with the changed rule (to 32 Code A instead of 64).
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On December 03 2010 22:39 HolydaKing wrote: TLO is Code A, but won't he forfeit that spot due to not being in Korea? According to the official code-a list TLO has forfeited his place in the top 20! =(
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From here: http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens3/news/288
32 players have been determined for Code S and it is now time for Code A. 20 players have secured their spots in Code A.
There are 21 player tied at 350 points. So we will have Code A decision matches with these 21 players. Only 12 out of the 21 players will be in Code A.
The 21 players will be divided into 3 groups of 7. Each group will play a full league and the top 4 players of each group will advance into Code A. The group lottery will be conducted this week with the players and coaches attending. Schedule Dec. 14th, 6pm KST : Code A decision matches of Group A Dec. 15th, 6pm KST : Code A decision matches of Group B Dec. 16th, 6pm KST : Code A decision matches of Group C
So how does this "full league" work with 7 players each? Round robin? I'm probably missing something obvious.
Ret's chances are really good at being in the top 4 in a group of 7 I think. No one really scary in the decision match group that I saw. Maybe Moon and Pheonix, but still, he's just gotta get top 4 out of 7.
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Wonder what this means for Torch?
Now he won't be Code A, will they want him anymore?
Also, seems awful late in the game to be changing the rules. They basically just hosed 32 players who thought they had a shot at Code A.
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OP updated to reflect this new information.
Wow, interesting stuff. I wonder if they decided that trying to break a tie with all those players at 299 points would be way too complicated. This also makes it a little easier to get into Code S as there are less players to go through to get top8 and into the up and down match for Code S.
There are 2 players that are missing from the list of players with 350 points: oGsGon and FnaticSen. Gon is now a coach at oGs, so it is possible he removed himself from competition. I have no clue why Sen was removed. Maybe some kind of scheduling conflict? Anybody have some insight on this?
And the absence of TLO on the list confirms that he won't be going back to Korea anytime soon.
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Sen went back to Taiwan I'm guessing :\ sucks, he had a good chance to stay A. Anyway, Ret's the only foreigner still fighting to stay in this. RET FIGHTING
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
So basically, FD is guaranteed 1st place in S Rank?
Even if HongUn wins the whole thing, he'll be on 8799 points, same as Nestea. Well i guess congratulations are in order for FD for grabbing the number 1 seed spot. Well done old boy.
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On December 09 2010 05:17 Hoju wrote: Wow, interesting stuff. I wonder if they decided that trying to break a tie with all those players at 299 points would be way too complicated. This also makes it a little easier to get into Code S as there are less players to go through to get top8 and into the up and down match for Code S.
I think its still within the realm of possibility that they will run qualifiers and still have 64 players in the Code A tournament, unless they have said somewhere that they won't and I missed it.
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On December 09 2010 05:30 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 05:17 Hoju wrote: Wow, interesting stuff. I wonder if they decided that trying to break a tie with all those players at 299 points would be way too complicated. This also makes it a little easier to get into Code S as there are less players to go through to get top8 and into the up and down match for Code S.
I think its still within the realm of possibility that they will run qualifiers and still have 64 players in the Code A tournament, unless they have said somewhere that they won't and I missed it.
I am hoping this also means both A and S can be casted by Tastosis since player wise it would be the same as the 64 man they have now. with 96 players it seemed pretty unfeasible. Of course maybe they could just show us the up & down matches or at least release some replays.
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On December 09 2010 05:30 TestSubject893 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 05:17 Hoju wrote: Wow, interesting stuff. I wonder if they decided that trying to break a tie with all those players at 299 points would be way too complicated. This also makes it a little easier to get into Code S as there are less players to go through to get top8 and into the up and down match for Code S.
I think its still within the realm of possibility that they will run qualifiers and still have 64 players in the Code A tournament, unless they have said somewhere that they won't and I missed it. It doesn't look like that's the case. From the gomtv.net news post:
"There are 21 player tied at 350 points.
So we will have Code A decision matches with these 21 players.
Only 12 out of the 21 players will be in Code A."
While it sucks for some of those players on the bubble, a smaller Code A tournament will make it a little easier for new players to move through the system up to Code S
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Ret should get in easily with how the system works. I'm worried for DAVIT though.
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On December 09 2010 05:37 rastaban wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2010 05:30 TestSubject893 wrote:On December 09 2010 05:17 Hoju wrote: Wow, interesting stuff. I wonder if they decided that trying to break a tie with all those players at 299 points would be way too complicated. This also makes it a little easier to get into Code S as there are less players to go through to get top8 and into the up and down match for Code S.
I think its still within the realm of possibility that they will run qualifiers and still have 64 players in the Code A tournament, unless they have said somewhere that they won't and I missed it. I am hoping this also means both A and S can be casted by Tastosis since player wise it would be the same as the 64 man they have now. with 96 players it seemed pretty unfeasible. Of course maybe they could just show us the up & down matches or at least release some replays.
There will still be 64 people in the Code A Tourney. However 32 spots will be filled through qualifiers instead of players automatically seeded through prior GSL preformance.
edit: Also the layout of these two tournaments vary from the current GSL format, with most of the earlier rounds revolving around group play. Meaning more players but similar amount of games.
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