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kvn4444
Profile Joined September 2010
1510 Posts
November 12 2010 09:32 GMT
#81
really hyped about this finals, think its going to be a incredibly close series with great games.
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 09:40:15
November 12 2010 09:36 GMT
#82
On November 12 2010 18:21 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.




So Fruitdealer is a 1.8k zerg on EU because he lost to Foxer? Get real man.

fd died because he was greedy and foxers style wasnt known back then
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
November 12 2010 09:39 GMT
#83
come on zergbong!!!!
Live and Let Die!
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 12 2010 09:40 GMT
#84
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.


I've read something similar after the Foxer played in the first round. I wouldn't count him out based on that one series.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 12 2010 09:42 GMT
#85
On November 12 2010 18:36 zomgad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.




So Fruitdealer is a 1.8k zerg on EU because he lost to Foxer? Get real man.

fd died because he was greedy and foxers style wasnt known back then


How do you know his style wasn't known by FD? Boxer's been at the top of the Korean ladder for a while now. It seems a bit strange that FD wouldn't know anything about his style unless he just made it up for the season 2 of gsl.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
November 12 2010 10:05 GMT
#86
On November 12 2010 18:21 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.




So Fruitdealer is a 1.8k zerg on EU because he lost to Foxer? Get real man.

FruitDealer got killed by timing pushes he could have perfectly held if he had scouted better or made less tech or drones. He never played his game in the first place and I doubt ZergBong will be caught off guard like that.
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johngalt90
Profile Joined May 2010
United States357 Posts
November 12 2010 10:20 GMT
#87
nestea will most likely take the series. his ZvT seems way too strong. i think breakthroughs of GSL 1 from fruitdealer in ZvT plus 1.12 has made this an uphill battle for lots of terrans
fuck the haters
Kraznaya
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3711 Posts
November 12 2010 10:22 GMT
#88
FoxeR Fighting!

Would be overwhelming odds for FoxeR to win in this swarm season but I really hope he can do it. Zergbong was a disgrace in BW and he shouldn't be a GSL champion. :<
do you have enough resolve, hero of justice?
necmon
Profile Joined September 2010
194 Posts
November 12 2010 10:30 GMT
#89
All depends on the preparation. I think Foxer's timing pushes can be beaten with a lot of practice, but without practice Nestea will just be overwhelmed with...Marines...lots of Marines...
Markwerf
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands3728 Posts
November 12 2010 10:37 GMT
#90
I think Nestea wins 4:1. Foxer's marine play is impressive but it still feels a bit like a underpowered strategy as a whole. A player with good macro & micro combined who doesn't get surprised by mass marine rushes (and it's certain nestea will be preparded) will be able to deal with it I think.

Of course it is not clear at all yet foxer will be doing his marine style. For all we know he might be mixing it up with some hellion/thor play or whatever. Both players getting so much preparation time for the finals makes it really difficult to predict.
Qwix
Profile Joined October 2010
531 Posts
November 12 2010 11:02 GMT
#91
On November 12 2010 10:04 Wivyx wrote:
Is it 11:00 or 12:00 Central European Time?

I really hope FoxeR takes this!

10:00 GMT +1 / CET
TheLight
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia410 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 11:04:02
November 12 2010 11:03 GMT
#92
On November 12 2010 18:42 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:36 zomgad wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.




So Fruitdealer is a 1.8k zerg on EU because he lost to Foxer? Get real man.

fd died because he was greedy and foxers style wasnt known back then


How do you know his style wasn't known by FD? Boxer's been at the top of the Korean ladder for a while now. It seems a bit strange that FD wouldn't know anything about his style unless he just made it up for the season 2 of gsl.


You assume that he plays on the ladder. A player of his calibre would probably be better off playing against his team or other teams.
A marine walks into a bar and asks: Where's the counter?
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
November 12 2010 11:12 GMT
#93
On November 12 2010 20:03 TheLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:42 nihlon wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:36 zomgad wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.




So Fruitdealer is a 1.8k zerg on EU because he lost to Foxer? Get real man.

fd died because he was greedy and foxers style wasnt known back then


How do you know his style wasn't known by FD? Boxer's been at the top of the Korean ladder for a while now. It seems a bit strange that FD wouldn't know anything about his style unless he just made it up for the season 2 of gsl.


You assume that he plays on the ladder. A player of his calibre would probably be better off playing against his team or other teams.


No... It's a well know fact he's at the top of the ladder. Artosis and Tasteless have even mentioned it in the casts. There is no speculation here.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
DarKFoRcE
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1215 Posts
November 12 2010 11:14 GMT
#94
On November 12 2010 17:16 zere wrote:

PlayXP korean bets (current figures):
(T)EllenPage 48.65% - 51.35 (Z)NesTea

Pinnaclesports.com odds:
(T)EllenPage 2.500 - 1.565 (Z)NesTea

XLBet.com odds:
(T)EllenPage 2.25 - 1.65 (Z)NesTea




im surprised there arent more people betting on foxer on pinnaclesports, considering more than 50% of the people here think that he will win and the odds being quite good.

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supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 12:06:01
November 12 2010 12:05 GMT
#95
Heart wants Foxer, Brain says Zergbong :-(
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
November 12 2010 12:14 GMT
#96
On November 12 2010 20:03 TheLight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 12 2010 18:42 nihlon wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:36 zomgad wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:21 Piledriver wrote:
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.




So Fruitdealer is a 1.8k zerg on EU because he lost to Foxer? Get real man.

fd died because he was greedy and foxers style wasnt known back then


How do you know his style wasn't known by FD? Boxer's been at the top of the Korean ladder for a while now. It seems a bit strange that FD wouldn't know anything about his style unless he just made it up for the season 2 of gsl.


You assume that he plays on the ladder. A player of his calibre would probably be better off playing against his team or other teams.


...He's been number 1 or 2 on the Korean Ladder for WEEKS.
secret - never again
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 12:24:25
November 12 2010 12:22 GMT
#97
On November 12 2010 18:09 iG.ClouD wrote:
BoxeR struggled against Kiryx who proved to be a very bad and clueless player, making only banelings and baneling bust and suiciding mutas like any 2k zerg on EU or NA server. I don't see him winning against ZergBong at all.


The only games that Kyrix won were the ones with baneling busts. As Foxer said himself, he never encountered Kyrix's level of aggression before. Foxer was rank #1 Korean ladder for considerable amount of time, so he encountered his share of baneling busts and all in aggressions. Foxer responded correctly to baneling bust every single time by reinforcing his wall. It's just that Kyrix committed more than any other Zerg would, controlled them better and succeeded where they failed. In term of sheer contest of abilities, Foxer came on top every single time.

And if you say "clueless player making only baneling", you are the clueless one. The instantaneous decision making required to maximize the effects of banelings through micro control is not simple at all.
Shockk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany2269 Posts
November 12 2010 12:27 GMT
#98
I don't understand how some people in here argue about the respective players' skill. Even people like ClouD (who's probably better than 90% of the community) aren't even close to Foxer's/Nestea's level, especially considering those two have to cope with the tremendous pressure of playing on stage and the prize money involved.

It's one thing to do some general layman's prediction like "I think Nestea's macro will win over Foxer's micro". That's ok, we all do that. But ouright dismissing participants from the RO32 (and later stages of the GSL) as if we'd only be talking about ladder games - that's arrogance speaking.

Calling Kyrix a "bad and clueless [...] 2k zerg" (made it to RO8, eliminated by the current finalist) is pure hubris.
noD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 12 2010 12:40 GMT
#99
I will happily wake up at 7 am for this game =D
aTnClouD
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Italy2428 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-12 12:47:31
November 12 2010 12:45 GMT
#100
On November 12 2010 21:27 Shockk wrote:
Calling Kyrix a "bad and clueless [...] 2k zerg" (made it to RO8, eliminated by the current finalist) is pure hubris.

He really is that bad, you should watch the games and see how bad he is. He only reached that point because people still don't know how to counter mass banelings and all in strategies that well yet.

BoxeR is surely a very good player but I just think he won these games against FruitDealer because everyone knew how he played and FruitDealer had no clue about what BoxeR was doing. His micro is flawless but his strategies seem somehow not that good.
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