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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:09 travis wrote: lolol so true awesome though shows how competitive the scene is and tbh machine and painuser played so much better than im used to seeing from them they must be koreans smurfing probably fruitdealer and ITR Hahahah. Hell yeah gogo team Underdog! | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
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LittLeD
Sweden7973 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:25 b_unnies wrote: thors soak up all the storm damage. kinda like the role ultras function in ultra/ling in sc1 zvp Why even bother storming a Thor in the first place? | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:22 KiNGxXx wrote: LOL What? YOU pulled the numbers game with your "3/4" comment. And it's pretty normal that you have more NA players in the top 4 when there are more players of them in the tournament. I said there was a lot of underestimated American/Canadian talent, partly in response to the people stating that "there's only Idra, and he's practically Korean" that you saw from some posters. You went in with the "oh but so many North Americans in the tournament" BS. Besides, numbers aren't everything. You could have a few hundred NA BW players in Korea playing in the MSL and they'd probably all be knocked out in the first two rounds. Point is, NA players other than Idra and Huk are doing better than many people predicted they would. | ||
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Bru
Sweden184 Posts
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Kamille
Monaco1035 Posts
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b_unnies
3579 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:26 LittleeD wrote: Why even bother storming a Thor in the first place? exactly. which is why going temps is useless against thor/banshee/marines | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
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Fa1nT
United States3423 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:25 QuantumTheory wrote: IdrA was pissed after losing to Select. You could see how infuriated he was. His loss though, he should have been prepared for that. IdrA needs to understand that he is better than everyone playing straight up most games. So he's gotta think, yea, most of the people I'm going to face is going to cheese me at some point. He really needs to change his attitude about his ZvT and it is actually a dangerous matchup for him. No, it's not. Close positions, maps like delta, and cheeses are dangerous for him. One is luck, one is veto'ed, and the last he is extremely good at handling. When 95% of IdrA's opponents either cheese or 1/2-base all in, one will eventually beat him with it. IdrA is probably the pro player with the most cheeses against him in the WORLD. | ||
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positron.
634 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:22 Shifft wrote: I think the point of the thors is that you absolutely cannot go phoenix against thors, so the banshees are super hard to deal with. Thors fire so slow that I don't think that is the main reason he get thors. I guess thors tank storm better and hit stalkers well. | ||
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Shika
Sweden1711 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:22 KiNGxXx wrote: LOL What? YOU pulled the numbers game with your "3/4" comment. And it's pretty normal that you have more NA players in the top 4 when there are more players of them in the tournament. Look through the bracket Azarkon.. None of the americans in the winner bracket top 4 has had to face europeans on their way there (except Painuser, but Nazgul hasn't really practiced as much as everyone else). Europeans has mostly knocked each other down to the loser bracket. edit: said machine instead of painuser. | ||
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Glam
United States325 Posts
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Firereaver
India1701 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:24 HuskyHawk wrote: If you don't follow any college/pro athletics, just talk to someone that does. What you're talking about is a pretty standard reaction for a fan who endures a tough loss. Maybe the regame affected him a lot, maybe it didn't. In either case, the games went late, like Tyler prefers, and he still lost. I think he'll still have a strong showing in the losers bracket and probably come away from this loss with a better understanding of his weaknesses. All you gotta do is step back and see the bigger picture! For me, after Nada lost in OSL in 2007, I literally cried. But then I realised that I watched something that 99.9% of people are missing worldwide. And that somehow bucked me up. Couldnt handle Ivanesevic repeatedly losing Wimbledon finals too. | ||
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Pudge_172
United States1378 Posts
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Djeez
543 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:29 Glam wrote: I'm still boggling over Tyler's switch to VR after he knew painuser had a bunch of vikings. Can anyone explain this? Kill thors, make room for pheonixes to take out the vikings. | ||
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TheGrimace
United States929 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:24 HuskyHawk wrote: If you don't follow any college/pro athletics, just talk to someone that does. What you're talking about is a pretty standard reaction for a fan who endures a tough loss. Maybe the regame affected him a lot, maybe it didn't. In either case, the games went late, like Tyler prefers, and he still lost. I think he'll still have a strong showing in the losers bracket and probably come away from this loss with a better understanding of his weaknesses. Good points, both of you. I did a lot of cheering for my college basketball team and they always eventually failed, I guess this isn't really a new feeling for me. I'm probably just more invested here since this is a game I play. I'll sleep on it and be back up for the stream tomorrow. Thanks guys, TL is a pretty cool place. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:28 Fa1nT wrote: No, it's not. Close positions, maps like delta, and cheeses are dangerous for him. One is luck, one is veto'ed, and the last he is extremely good at handling. When 95% of IdrA's opponents either cheese or 1/2-base all in, one will eventually beat him with it. IdrA is probably the pro player with the most cheeses against him in the WORLD. To be fair a lot of tournament games are 1/2-base all ins. He shouldn't bank on his opponents executing the cheese/allins poorly, he should play safe, especially when losing could drop him out of the tournament. 14 hatch on DQ against Select in game 3 just seemed like poor judgement. | ||
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:25 b_unnies wrote: thors soak up all the storm damage. kinda like the role ultras function in ultra/ling in sc1 zvp Not really, since I hope no one is really trying to storm those thors the HTs kill banshees, marines, marauders and to lesser extend hellions. zlots kill thors well. Being 4 gas geysers up is probably a lot bigger reason for how the game went, than we are taking into account, but I'd def say transitioning into VR was not smart after he lost his core colossi army(phoenix with colossi is decent since they waste the vikings time away from the colossi). In any case, if they were getting similar gas income, PU wouldn't really have threatening amount of banshees _and_ thors, a mix of both or all of either, which the toss has units that can handle. | ||
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ChThoniC
United States536 Posts
Couldn't commit the whole day to watching and missed the best matchups. | ||
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:30 Pudge_172 wrote: When the bracket looks empty just scroll it..... I'm scrolling it shows the rounds but there's no players in them. Everything is TBD. NVM: works now. | ||
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Looks like people all underestimated the talent that exists in the US/Canada, since 3/4 are American/Canadian.
