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Uhh Negative
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1090 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8421
So was the 61 minute game they were talking about Sen v Socke? I want to download that replay when it comes out tomorrow.
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 02:20:17
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8422
On November 07 2010 11:17 b_unnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings

storm +colo is like ultimate weapon, thors would evaporate rly fast (i know because i played similar game, vrs actually are quiet bad vs mass thors)
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8423
On November 07 2010 11:18 Felix_mk wrote:
Is there any way to see that 60+ minute match Day[9] was talking about? I forgot who were the players...


http://media.mlgpro.com/brackets/10/procircuit/dallas/sc2/open/matches/6769.html

Game 1... it'll probably be up by tomorrow.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8424
On November 07 2010 11:17 b_unnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings


explain. That statement doesn't make sense to me
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8425
Tyler had the right idea with the VRs. He just didn't have enough of them. By the time he made VRs PU was up 2 bases.
Penke
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden346 Posts
November 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8426
On November 07 2010 11:10 Shika wrote:
Really good day today, so many awesome games.

Jinro looks unbelievably strong this tournament. He won against Socke who's considered to have one of the worlds absolute best PvT. Also winning 2-0 against Ret who looked really strong aswell.

I think Jinro will win this tournament.


I agree, he has shown some really solid play, plus his swede. In other words: GO Jinro! :D
AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
November 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8427
On November 07 2010 11:17 Corrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:16 AntiLegend wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:15 Corrupted wrote:
Team Liquid took a beating in that round. Jinro still representing though.


well, 5 of 7 tl players are still alive in the tournament, i think that's quite an impressive result


Of course it is...doesn't change the fact that they all lost their matchup that round except for Jinro...which is all I stated.


and which i didnt deny
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8428
On November 07 2010 11:16 Entropic wrote:
I cant believe Tyler didnt just waltz into Painuser's 3rd at the gold after annihilating PU's army in the middle in the first engagement.


He was very concerned about losing his collossus. At that point they were virtually undefended with all his gateway units being wiped out.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
November 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8429
On November 07 2010 11:17 Iodem wrote:
So we have the Sen vs Socke 60 minute match to watch as replays... are there any others?

I heard there was some 3 hatch before pool game for TLO, what game was that?


One of these:
http://media.mlgpro.com/brackets/10/procircuit/dallas/sc2/open/matches/6384.html
norlock
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands918 Posts
November 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8430
Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings


explain. That statement doesn't make sense to me

lol i think it does to no one!
Are you human?
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
November 07 2010 02:19 GMT
#8431
On November 07 2010 11:18 zomgad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:17 b_unnies wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings

storm +colo is like ultimate weapon, thors would evaporate rly fast


Now you are just trolling right?
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 07 2010 02:20 GMT
#8432
On November 07 2010 11:18 zomgad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:17 b_unnies wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings

storm +colo is like ultimate weapon, thors would evaporate rly fast


think that's what all the banshees were for.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
jamvng
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada244 Posts
November 07 2010 02:20 GMT
#8433
Just a thought about GSL vs MLG. It's hard to compare. GSL is done in parts, a few matches per day. They broadcast ALL the matches. In MLG, they can select the best matchups/players and broadcast them. Also, all these great matches can be broadcast all within the same day, hours apart. Imagine GSL with only the best of the matches being broadcast all in one day.
iggyfisk
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden212 Posts
November 07 2010 02:20 GMT
#8434
On November 07 2010 11:19 Corrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:16 Entropic wrote:
I cant believe Tyler didnt just waltz into Painuser's 3rd at the gold after annihilating PU's army in the middle in the first engagement.


He was very concerned about losing his collossus. At that point they were virtually undefended with all his gateway units being wiped out.



Should have been concerned about a Terran with 2 more bases than himself...
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 07 2010 02:21 GMT
#8435
On November 07 2010 11:19 AntiLegend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:17 Corrupted wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:16 AntiLegend wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:15 Corrupted wrote:
Team Liquid took a beating in that round. Jinro still representing though.


well, 5 of 7 tl players are still alive in the tournament, i think that's quite an impressive result


Of course it is...doesn't change the fact that they all lost their matchup that round except for Jinro...which is all I stated.


and which i didnt deny


Which I didn't accuse you of.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
November 07 2010 02:21 GMT
#8436
Select just beat Inka, knocking another EG player out.
Priphea
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 02:21 GMT
#8437
On November 07 2010 11:16 TheGrimace wrote:
I feel pathetic. I think the regame for Tyler is affecting me more than him. I don't know why I'm so upset that it happened, but it is really bothering me. I know MLG_Lee has clarified their position and asked for feedback, but I can't help but feel upset by this. I almost think I need to go watch Day[9]'s dealing with a loss to hear about the chemicals going on again. I guess it's a good sign I'm this invested in the events of MLG, but I'm kinda pissed at myself for feeling this strongly. Like I said, this is pathetic how I'm feeling. Anyone have words (good or bad) for me?

I kinda feel the same but at least Tyler is still in the loser's bracket and not totally eliminated.
Shika
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden1711 Posts
November 07 2010 02:21 GMT
#8438
On November 07 2010 11:13 Azarkon wrote:
Man major upsets this tournament for sure. I mean look at the final player list in the WB:

Machine
TT1
Painuser
Jinro

Yeah no one predicted this Looks like people all underestimated the talent that exists in the US/Canada, since 3/4 are American/Canadian.


There's alot of talent for sure. But to be honest the majority of the tournament consists if north americans - with the tournament being in NA and all - and the small group of europeans have had the misfortune of being on the same side of the bracket knocking each other out alot.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
November 07 2010 02:21 GMT
#8439
On November 07 2010 11:19 norlock wrote:
Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings


explain. That statement doesn't make sense to me

lol i think it does to no one!


You spend a shitton of money on HT + tech and kill all his bio. And then you are faced with heavy mech without any units to defend . Does that make sense?
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
November 07 2010 02:21 GMT
#8440
On November 07 2010 11:18 Severedevil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:09 Highways wrote:
Is it me or does Terran have a hard counter for anything that protoss does?

They have a hardcounter for any particular unit, but a big gas-heavy ball of several different unit types has no counter. (Tyler didn't have psionic storm.)

Well, maybe ghosts.

Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:09 rtclark wrote:
Speculations on what Tyler could have done to win this?

Tyler made a bad mistake with his colossi in both games he lost - first game, he focused the bunker instead of stimmed infantry that were attacking his colossi. Second game, he balled them in front of his army when he needed his Zealot/Stalker/Archon in front to kill the vikings.

Both mistakes resulted in Tyler losing his army and ultimately the game.

Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:12 zemiron wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:05 jamvng wrote:
sad that we didn't get to see REt vs Jinro.

Painuser just outmacroed Tyler. He was mass expanding while Tyler just stayed on his power army. Looks like PvT BW..with roles switched lol (colossus = tanks)


True, but it seems almost impossible for any Protoss to out produce Terran. Their units just make so much faster and reactors allow them to get more out.

It's easy for Protoss to dump resources... just build more warpgates. Tyler didn't have a huge stockpile of resources. He needed more bases, templar, and to kill Painuser's expansions.

Or just not to lose his big army.

Ya, the big loss of all those colossi to viking was huge, and fully put him on tilt. After that he was building archons and void rays, wtf? Aren't those units useless?

I'm sad about Tyler losing, after his great play today I was entirely behind him, so it sucks to have your guy lose. Oh well, good games overall.

(Still think TvP is imba....

That is not dead which can eternal lie...
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