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AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8401
On November 07 2010 11:15 Corrupted wrote:
Team Liquid took a beating in that round. Jinro still representing though.


well, 5 of 7 tl players are still alive in the tournament, i think that's quite an impressive result
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8402
On November 07 2010 11:15 lowercase wrote:
PS: Page 420!!


What does Hitler have to do with this?
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8403
Call me an underdog whore, but i'n just happy that Jinro and Painuser and Machine are pwning SO hard!! I'm also hoping Tyler and Drewbie get thru LB. Down with Select imo. Grats to inka. Props to Inc for takin out Naz.
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8404
On November 07 2010 11:14 b_unnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:13 travis wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


well his thors were partly reaction to collossus/phoenix
chargelots would mop thors up


if he goes zeals how is he going to deal with the banshees

storm +few phonixes would tear that apart
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8405
On November 07 2010 11:12 lgn! wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:11 KiNGxXx wrote:
That was the best day of SC2 so far. So many great and entertaining matches - AWESOME!

MLG > GSL imo


agreed

Eh GSL > MLG. MLG is too much good packed into too few days so a bunch of awesomeness goes uncasted.
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8406
I cant believe Tyler didnt just waltz into Painuser's 3rd at the gold after annihilating PU's army in the middle in the first engagement.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8407
On November 07 2010 11:10 travis wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:09 rtclark wrote:
Speculations on what Tyler could have done to win this?


macro'd better

don't transition into void rays

chargelot/ht imo. or even carriers over void rays


Yeah why didnt he go chargelot / ht vs mech + air dominance with banshees.. so strange ^.^
I actually think that carriers would have been a good transition but they are not easy to get and take ages to get out...

I was really surprised that Tyler did not take all the expansions on his side of the map, he macroed well of his bases but Pain just had so much more shit

Was anyone else really impressed with the cloaked banshees + observer snipe that basicly killed Tyler in both matches?
TheGrimace
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States929 Posts
November 07 2010 02:16 GMT
#8408
I feel pathetic. I think the regame for Tyler is affecting me more than him. I don't know why I'm so upset that it happened, but it is really bothering me. I know MLG_Lee has clarified their position and asked for feedback, but I can't help but feel upset by this. I almost think I need to go watch Day[9]'s dealing with a loss to hear about the chemicals going on again. I guess it's a good sign I'm this invested in the events of MLG, but I'm kinda pissed at myself for feeling this strongly. Like I said, this is pathetic how I'm feeling. Anyone have words (good or bad) for me?
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
November 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#8409
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
November 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#8410
On November 07 2010 11:14 KiNGxXx wrote:
Show nested quote +

Yeah no one predicted this Looks like people all underestimated the talent that exists in the US/Canada, since 3/4 are American/Canadian.

So, how many American/Canadian take part in this tournament?


Don't pull the numbers game, please. European tournaments have more EU players as well...
Zath.erin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada429 Posts
November 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#8411
Pretty awesome, EG, Fnatic and Liquid all have someone in the winners semi finals. Does pain user have a team?
I put my pants on just like the rest of you - one leg at a time. Except once my pants are on, i make gold records!
Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
November 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#8412
On November 07 2010 11:16 Erandorr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:10 travis wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:09 rtclark wrote:
Speculations on what Tyler could have done to win this?


macro'd better

don't transition into void rays

chargelot/ht imo. or even carriers over void rays


Yeah why didnt he go chargelot / ht vs mech + air dominance with banshees.. so strange ^.^
I actually think that carriers would have been a good transition but they are not easy to get and take ages to get out...

I was really surprised that Tyler did not take all the expansions on his side of the map, he macroed well of his bases but Pain just had so much more shit

Was anyone else really impressed with the cloaked banshees + observer snipe that basicly killed Tyler in both matches?


I'm not really impressed by it, I've seen Gretorp try to use it a lot but it just gets rolled over by HT feedback + storms.
iggyfisk
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden212 Posts
November 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#8413
On November 07 2010 11:16 TheGrimace wrote:
I feel pathetic. I think the regame for Tyler is affecting me more than him. I don't know why I'm so upset that it happened, but it is really bothering me. I know MLG_Lee has clarified their position and asked for feedback, but I can't help but feel upset by this. I almost think I need to go watch Day[9]'s dealing with a loss to hear about the chemicals going on again. I guess it's a good sign I'm this invested in the events of MLG, but I'm kinda pissed at myself for feeling this strongly. Like I said, this is pathetic how I'm feeling. Anyone have words (good or bad) for me?

Go to bed, see you tomorrow.
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#8414
On November 07 2010 11:16 AntiLegend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:15 Corrupted wrote:
Team Liquid took a beating in that round. Jinro still representing though.


well, 5 of 7 tl players are still alive in the tournament, i think that's quite an impressive result


Of course it is...doesn't change the fact that they all lost their matchup that round except for Jinro...which is all I stated.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 07 2010 02:17 GMT
#8415
So we have the Sen vs Socke 60 minute match to watch as replays... are there any others?

I heard there was some 3 hatch before pool game for TLO, what game was that?
If you don't like it, you can quit.
Firereaver
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
India1701 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8416
Mass cloak banshee with raven and bit of bio-ball is my secret unbeatable strat. Dunno how you counter it if done correctly
"They drone drone drone , me win" - JangMinChul(Iron/oGsMC)
Felix_mk
Profile Joined October 2010
85 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8417
Is there any way to see that 60+ minute match Day[9] was talking about? I forgot who were the players...
positron.
Profile Joined May 2010
634 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8418

On November 07 2010 11:05 Lachrymose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:03 Roggay wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:01 travis wrote:
painuser deserved the wins


Yep, he totally outmacroed Tyler and he has a clever lategame composition.


"outmacroed" is floating 3k minerals while randomly dropping ccs everywhere while still having a superior army?


Outmacroed means having lots of resources and a stronger army. It does not strictly mean your resources has to be low all game long. Every time you yourself have low money it means you are a trash player who forgot to expand or build scvs and you are just going broke. Don't confuse your going broke with having good macro. Wake up.
Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8419
On November 07 2010 11:16 zomgad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:14 b_unnies wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:13 travis wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


well his thors were partly reaction to collossus/phoenix
chargelots would mop thors up


if he goes zeals how is he going to deal with the banshees

storm +few phonixes would tear that apart


Storm vs extremly mobile air forces ? What are you talking about ..
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
November 07 2010 02:18 GMT
#8420
On November 07 2010 11:09 Highways wrote:
Is it me or does Terran have a hard counter for anything that protoss does?

They have a hardcounter for any particular unit, but a big gas-heavy ball of several different unit types has no counter. (Tyler didn't have psionic storm.)

Well, maybe ghosts.

On November 07 2010 11:09 rtclark wrote:
Speculations on what Tyler could have done to win this?

Tyler made a bad mistake with his colossi in both games he lost - first game, he focused the bunker instead of stimmed infantry that were attacking his colossi. Second game, he balled them in front of his army when he needed his Zealot/Stalker/Archon in front to kill the vikings.

Both mistakes resulted in Tyler losing his army and ultimately the game.

On November 07 2010 11:12 zemiron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:05 jamvng wrote:
sad that we didn't get to see REt vs Jinro.

Painuser just outmacroed Tyler. He was mass expanding while Tyler just stayed on his power army. Looks like PvT BW..with roles switched lol (colossus = tanks)


True, but it seems almost impossible for any Protoss to out produce Terran. Their units just make so much faster and reactors allow them to get more out.

It's easy for Protoss to dump resources... just build more warpgates. Tyler didn't have a huge stockpile of resources. He needed more bases, templar, and to kill Painuser's expansions.

Or just not to lose his big army.
My strategy is to fork people.
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