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SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
November 07 2010 02:22 GMT
#8441
i want the replays now! Especially Sen's
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
November 07 2010 02:22 GMT
#8442
On November 07 2010 09:51 Essentia wrote:
why dont u jus throw down roach warren?


Idra thinks going roaches early is over rated lol. I think opening roaches is good you get more larva for drones and great for holding off some early all ins from terrans . Also putting a drone on ramp so that terran can't proxy bunker works great also but whatever hopefully Idra starts working on it ^^.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
November 07 2010 02:22 GMT
#8443
I think the point of the thors is that you absolutely cannot go phoenix against thors, so the banshees are super hard to deal with.
=O
KiNGxXx
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
7928 Posts
November 07 2010 02:22 GMT
#8444
On November 07 2010 11:17 Azarkon wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:14 KiNGxXx wrote:

Yeah no one predicted this Looks like people all underestimated the talent that exists in the US/Canada, since 3/4 are American/Canadian.

So, how many American/Canadian take part in this tournament?


Don't pull the numbers game, please. European tournaments have more EU players as well...

LOL What? YOU pulled the numbers game with your "3/4" comment. And it's pretty normal that you have more NA players in the top 4 when there are more players of them in the tournament.
MKP|Maru|TaeJa|Mvp|Polt|INnoVation|GuMiho|Bomber|GoOdy|TeamTerran
Corrupted
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1255 Posts
November 07 2010 02:22 GMT
#8445
On November 07 2010 11:20 iggyfisk wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:19 Corrupted wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:16 Entropic wrote:
I cant believe Tyler didnt just waltz into Painuser's 3rd at the gold after annihilating PU's army in the middle in the first engagement.


He was very concerned about losing his collossus. At that point they were virtually undefended with all his gateway units being wiped out.



Should have been concerned about a Terran with 2 more bases than himself...


He obviously wasn't aware of that at that point. When he did...he attacked quickly and lost everything.
"MarineKing rolling double sevens there" -Artosis
zomgad
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-07 02:23:27
November 07 2010 02:23 GMT
#8446
On November 07 2010 11:20 Corrupted wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:18 zomgad wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:17 b_unnies wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings

storm +colo is like ultimate weapon, thors would evaporate rly fast


think that's what all the banshees were for.

u do realize that storm hits them too ? low hp ones could be cleared by phoenixes, the mistake tyler made was transitioning to vrs but not getting storm
monx
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1400 Posts
November 07 2010 02:23 GMT
#8447
anyone knows when replays are gonna be up?
@ggmonx
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 02:23 GMT
#8448
On November 07 2010 11:22 Corrupted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:20 iggyfisk wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:19 Corrupted wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:16 Entropic wrote:
I cant believe Tyler didnt just waltz into Painuser's 3rd at the gold after annihilating PU's army in the middle in the first engagement.


He was very concerned about losing his collossus. At that point they were virtually undefended with all his gateway units being wiped out.



Should have been concerned about a Terran with 2 more bases than himself...


He obviously wasn't aware of that at that point. When he did...he attacked quickly and lost everything.

Tyler's lack of map awareness was the real killer here. Tyler had a bigger army at many points and wasted it attacking fortified positions instead of two vulnerable hidden expos.
VenerableSpace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States463 Posts
November 07 2010 02:23 GMT
#8449
On November 07 2010 11:12 zomgad wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:08 YoiChiBow wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:05 Lachrymose wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:03 Roggay wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:01 travis wrote:
painuser deserved the wins


Yep, he totally outmacroed Tyler and he has a clever lategame composition.


"outmacroed" is floating 3k minerals while randomly dropping ccs everywhere while still having a superior army?



its better than not expoing like Nony did and being poor.
dont fool urself too much pls

plus his gas was low theres no good mineral dump T unit vs 10 colos, marines are useless



Marines arent useless, Tyler was attempting a switch to voidrays and immortals, marines are good vs both.

Painuser's late game decisions were amazing, very endgame thors, marines, vikings with tanks and banshees trickled into the mix was beautiful.

I think the turning point was in the battle by the top right high-ground spawn when Tyler dominated the ground battle and was left with mainly collosus, and painuser with vikings.
Nony should have immediately just send the collosus back to the base and save as many as he can, warp in reinforcements and repressure.
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
November 07 2010 02:23 GMT
#8450
Does anyone have the brackets?

http://www.mlgpro.com/ci/brackets/procircuit/10/dallas/sc2/open/ isnt showing anything but the empty slots >/
No pain, no gain!
lowercase
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1047 Posts
November 07 2010 02:23 GMT
#8451
On November 07 2010 11:23 zomgad wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:20 Corrupted wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:18 zomgad wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:17 b_unnies wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings

storm +colo is like ultimate weapon, thors would evaporate rly fast


think that's what all the banshees were for.

u do realize that storm hits them too ? low hp ones could be cleared by phoenixes, the mistake tyler made was transitioning to vrs but not getting storm

HTs would be great versus banshees... for feedback, not storm.
That is not dead which can eternal lie...
HuskyHawk
Profile Joined July 2010
United States49 Posts
November 07 2010 02:24 GMT
#8452
On November 07 2010 11:17 iggyfisk wrote:
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On November 07 2010 11:16 TheGrimace wrote:
I feel pathetic. I think the regame for Tyler is affecting me more than him. I don't know why I'm so upset that it happened, but it is really bothering me. I know MLG_Lee has clarified their position and asked for feedback, but I can't help but feel upset by this. I almost think I need to go watch Day[9]'s dealing with a loss to hear about the chemicals going on again. I guess it's a good sign I'm this invested in the events of MLG, but I'm kinda pissed at myself for feeling this strongly. Like I said, this is pathetic how I'm feeling. Anyone have words (good or bad) for me?

Go to bed, see you tomorrow.


If you don't follow any college/pro athletics, just talk to someone that does. What you're talking about is a pretty standard reaction for a fan who endures a tough loss. Maybe the regame affected him a lot, maybe it didn't. In either case, the games went late, like Tyler prefers, and he still lost. I think he'll still have a strong showing in the losers bracket and probably come away from this loss with a better understanding of his weaknesses.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
November 07 2010 02:24 GMT
#8453
On November 07 2010 11:23 monx wrote:
anyone knows when replays are gonna be up?

Day 1 replays were up at the start of Day 2. Expect Day 2 replays at the start of Day 3.
evilsaint
Profile Joined August 2010
United States309 Posts
November 07 2010 02:24 GMT
#8454
Is my stream going nuts, or did they just start it over from this morning?
LittLeD
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden7973 Posts
November 07 2010 02:24 GMT
#8455
With proper positioning (Collosi in the back) Archons are great counters to vikings. No?
☆Grubby ☆| Tod|DeMusliM|ThorZaiN|SaSe|Moon|Mana| ☆HerO ☆
Kamille
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Monaco1035 Posts
November 07 2010 02:24 GMT
#8456
On November 07 2010 11:23 dambros wrote:
Does anyone have the brackets?

http://www.mlgpro.com/ci/brackets/procircuit/10/dallas/sc2/open/ isnt showing anything but the empty slots >/


Keep refreshing.
Priphea
VenerableSpace
Profile Joined May 2010
United States463 Posts
November 07 2010 02:25 GMT
#8457
On November 07 2010 11:23 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:22 Corrupted wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:20 iggyfisk wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:19 Corrupted wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:16 Entropic wrote:
I cant believe Tyler didnt just waltz into Painuser's 3rd at the gold after annihilating PU's army in the middle in the first engagement.


He was very concerned about losing his collossus. At that point they were virtually undefended with all his gateway units being wiped out.



Should have been concerned about a Terran with 2 more bases than himself...


He obviously wasn't aware of that at that point. When he did...he attacked quickly and lost everything.

Tyler's lack of map awareness was the real killer here. Tyler had a bigger army at many points and wasted it attacking fortified positions instead of two vulnerable hidden expos.



Agree.

as a P player i would have liked him to advance but hes not out of it yet. gl to TT1.
Iodem
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1173 Posts
November 07 2010 02:25 GMT
#8458
Would a mix of immortals, stalkers, chargelots, HTs and phoenixes been a strong enough force to beat Painuser? He played very well.
If you don't like it, you can quit.
QuantumTheory
Profile Joined October 2010
New Zealand188 Posts
November 07 2010 02:25 GMT
#8459
IdrA was pissed after losing to Select.
You could see how infuriated he was.
His loss though, he should have been prepared for that.

IdrA needs to understand that he is better than everyone playing straight up most games.
So he's gotta think, yea, most of the people I'm going to face is going to cheese me at some point.
He really needs to change his attitude about his ZvT and it is actually a dangerous matchup for him.
oGsNADAHHHHH | NOTHING SUSPICIOUS GOING ON HERE - HuK
b_unnies
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
3579 Posts
November 07 2010 02:25 GMT
#8460
On November 07 2010 11:18 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2010 11:17 b_unnies wrote:
On November 07 2010 11:15 kNyTTyM wrote:

On November 07 2010 11:12 b_unnies wrote:
how much can storms do against that composition? Thors tanks storms relatively well


Storm the vikings and bio. Vikings don't actually have much HP.
Teeler lost because he probably hasn't seen that composition before and was just a little confused.



Whole point of thors is that it counters storms so that P can't storm bio/vikings


explain. That statement doesn't make sense to me


thors soak up all the storm damage. kinda like the role ultras function in ultra/ling in sc1 zvp
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