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kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 04 2010 12:26 GMT
#1421
On November 04 2010 21:17 Zyphen wrote:
I don't know why people would blame Foxer for not showing mid/late gameplay if ITR can't force him to? It's like when SlayerSBoxeR beat Yellow 3 times straight w/ bunker rushes because Yellow couldn't defend them. SlayerSBoxeR said he was disappointed too because he didn't get to show his transition, which he did in future games.


Apart from regular fanboy-ism, there's also this rampant and irrational fear of early pressure going around. People call Foxer a cheese and "all-in" simply because he applies early pressure and often wins. Ignoring the fact that he never lets his macro slip and expands aggressively.

I guess some people are biased against micro because it can't be learned by rote like multi-base macro.
whatsgrackalackin420
smegged
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia213 Posts
November 04 2010 12:26 GMT
#1422
The amazing thing is that Foxer has had such an incredibly difficult run to the finals, but made his opponents look like scrubs every single time.

Let's not forget who he has taken out here:

Fruitdealer (winner GSL1)
Sangho (one of the top 4 protoss players around alongside Genius, Tester and Inca)
ITR (runner up GSL1)

3 of the best players of their respective races have all been made to look bad against him.

Not only that but he beat Kyrix as well, who has a totally different zerg playstyle to Fruitdealer.

This kid is such a baller and probably deserves to win the tournament based on what we have seen of him so far. I really don't see a zerg player beating him and I think his play is more solid than SlayerS_Boxer at the moment.
"I'm usually happy when I can see Dark Templar, Its when I can't see them that I get angry." - Altar
UnholyRai
Profile Joined September 2010
720 Posts
November 04 2010 12:34 GMT
#1423
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.
Gogo Grubby.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
November 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#1424
or at least uses banes/lings well. Wasn't exactly blown away by Kyrix' placement or micro
kojinshugi
Profile Joined August 2010
Estonia2559 Posts
November 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#1425
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


Did you really just say Foxer's weakness would be a zerg like Kyrix?

Lol?
whatsgrackalackin420
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#1426
A Boxer vs Boxer final would be so epic. The prize would be keeping the name, lol
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
November 04 2010 12:36 GMT
#1427
Foxer is like top of korean ladder, right?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 12:38:46
November 04 2010 12:37 GMT
#1428
On November 04 2010 21:36 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


Did you really just say Foxer's weakness would be a zerg like Kyrix?

Lol?

He means an aggressive zerg, such as Kyrix, but who also uses infestors properly
Magnamus
Profile Joined September 2010
United States23 Posts
November 04 2010 12:38 GMT
#1429
On November 04 2010 21:36 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


Did you really just say Foxer's weakness would be a zerg like Kyrix?

Lol?

sweet glad that's sorted out. achilles is wearing steel-heeled boots
omg carriers alt-f4
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 12:39:57
November 04 2010 12:39 GMT
#1430
On November 04 2010 21:36 See.Blue wrote:
Foxer is like top of korean ladder, right?


www.SC2ranks.com
Goliathsorrow
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy317 Posts
November 04 2010 12:40 GMT
#1431
On November 04 2010 21:36 See.Blue wrote:
Foxer is like top of korean ladder, right?

Yes.

I think FoxeR's weakness could be hidden banelings.

It would work probably once cuz he can take the reactor-Starport for medivacs and add a Tech lab to it to make a Raven but that one time could be fatal (like taking out a lot of marines).

Airship
Profile Joined August 2010
United States465 Posts
November 04 2010 12:40 GMT
#1432
On November 04 2010 21:36 kojinshugi wrote:

Did you really just say Foxer's weakness would be a zerg like Kyrix?

Lol?


You perhaps didn't notice that Foxer was within an inch of being eliminated by Kyrix then, who is a relatively mediocre zerg player by GSL standards. He was also nearly eliminated in the Ro64 by another really mediocre zerg. In that series Foxer played AWFULLY. His other TvZ, against fruit dealer, he rock paper scissor'd Fruit Dealer twice when FD decided to FE and drone up greedily. You'd have to assume newcomers won't attempt that against Foxer knowing what they know now. So yeah, I don't think it's unreasonable to put serious question marks over Foxer's TvZ.
Zyphen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
November 04 2010 12:40 GMT
#1433
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


You do know that 1 less mistake by Kyrix and we wouldn't be having this discussion? I'm not convinced he would have done better with infestors. I would love to see a rematch. Except in TvT, I think the aggressor has the advantage in SC2 because of the micro potential, smaller maps, and sick dps w/ hard counters instead of BW's soft counter system.
easyyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Czech Republic1 Post
November 04 2010 12:41 GMT
#1434
BoxeR vs BoxeR final.. yea,, winner take the name !
zerious
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3803 Posts
November 04 2010 12:42 GMT
#1435
On November 04 2010 21:40 Zyphen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


You do know that 1 less mistake by Kyrix and we wouldn't be having this discussion? I'm not convinced he would have done better with infestors. I would love to see a rematch. Except in TvT, I think the aggressor has the advantage in SC2 because of the micro potential, smaller maps, and sick dps w/ hard counters instead of BW's soft counter system.


Which leads us to 5min games
foxmeep
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia2337 Posts
November 04 2010 12:42 GMT
#1436
On November 04 2010 21:36 kojinshugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


Did you really just say Foxer's weakness would be a zerg like Kyrix?

Lol?


Are you agreeing or disagreeing with him?
Zyphen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
November 04 2010 12:48 GMT
#1437
On November 04 2010 21:42 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 21:40 Zyphen wrote:
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


You do know that 1 less mistake by Kyrix and we wouldn't be having this discussion? I'm not convinced he would have done better with infestors. I would love to see a rematch. Except in TvT, I think the aggressor has the advantage in SC2 because of the micro potential, smaller maps, and sick dps w/ hard counters instead of BW's soft counter system.


Which leads us to 5min games


It may be flawed game design, true. But I think Blizzard is slowly realizing the same thing. That's why they keep nerfing cheeses, build times, and dps. Why don't they buff much? Because it'll just make the game end faster.
Zyphen
Profile Joined September 2010
United States258 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 12:49:41
November 04 2010 12:49 GMT
#1438
On November 04 2010 21:42 zerious wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 21:40 Zyphen wrote:
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


You do know that 1 less mistake by Kyrix and we wouldn't be having this discussion? I'm not convinced he would have done better with infestors. I would love to see a rematch. Except in TvT, I think the aggressor has the advantage in SC2 because of the micro potential, smaller maps, and sick dps w/ hard counters instead of BW's soft counter system.


Which leads us to 5min games


It may be flawed game design, true. But I think Blizzard is slowly realizing the same thing. That's why they keep nerfing cheeses, build times, and dps. Why don't they buff much/instead? Because it'll just make the game end faster.
Goliathsorrow
Profile Joined September 2010
Italy317 Posts
November 04 2010 12:49 GMT
#1439
On November 04 2010 21:48 Zyphen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2010 21:42 zerious wrote:
On November 04 2010 21:40 Zyphen wrote:
On November 04 2010 21:34 UnholyRai wrote:
I think foxers weakness would be an aggressive zerg like Kyrix, who uses infestors as well as banes/lings.


You do know that 1 less mistake by Kyrix and we wouldn't be having this discussion? I'm not convinced he would have done better with infestors. I would love to see a rematch. Except in TvT, I think the aggressor has the advantage in SC2 because of the micro potential, smaller maps, and sick dps w/ hard counters instead of BW's soft counter system.


Which leads us to 5min games


It may be flawed game design, true. But I think Blizzard is slowly realizing the same thing. That's why they keep nerfing cheeses, build times, and dps. Why don't they buff much? Because it'll just make the game end faster.

I feel like all this would be resolved with a better map pool, rly.
Phrencys
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada270 Posts
November 04 2010 12:51 GMT
#1440
All the hate of Foxer is because he stole a legend's nickname. Even SlayersBoxeR himself admitted that Foxer plays better than him at this moment.

Look guys, I know it's blasphemy for fanboys and all, but at least the guy is living up to the name.
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