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knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
November 01 2010 20:15 GMT
#3121
That back and forth action in game 5 was so awesome. Very micro intensive and even the creep put on a ton of pressure. It was probably the closest game I have seen to brood war. I really wish this mass marine medivac tank style could become standard but sadly it cannot. Anti-micro infestor gives a big fuck you to this style.
Vz0
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada378 Posts
November 01 2010 20:15 GMT
#3122
On November 01 2010 22:37 eggs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 22:35 Moragon wrote:

Have you ever played toss? You need to go pylon, gateway, twilight, archives, storm, amulet, templar to warp in with storm ready.


gateway, *cyber, warpgate,* twilight

oh ya lets just forget the nexus and observer since those are free.
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
November 01 2010 20:28 GMT
#3123
On November 02 2010 05:15 kNyTTyM wrote:
That back and forth action in game 5 was so awesome. Very micro intensive and even the creep put on a ton of pressure. It was probably the closest game I have seen to brood war. I really wish this mass marine medivac tank style could become standard but sadly it cannot. Anti-micro infestor gives a big fuck you to this style.


If you ever get the chance to tech to infestor that is
Losticus
Profile Joined August 2010
United States62 Posts
November 01 2010 20:33 GMT
#3124
There are some people really stuck on stupid with the astonishingly backwards whines about Terran being OP (LOL!). How about we see things less through the prism of Race, and more through recognizing the individuals playing. And nevermind the fact that with a different luck of the draw we could be seeing something entirely different -- the bottom line is that the players left DESERVE to be there, due to superior play. They won because they had sound strategies and outplayed their (usually inferior) opponents.

So give credit where credit's due -- the top T's are simply better than the top Z's and P's right now. I don't know how you can watch Foxer, Boxer, Nada, or HopeTorture at all and argue against that. Claiming imba is absurd, and no one BUT them can do things they do. If anything, they're overcoming the imbalance the rest of us are having quite a hard time dealing with.
MforWW
Profile Joined July 2010
United States157 Posts
November 01 2010 20:46 GMT
#3125
To whom it may concern,

I'm a lawyer irl and, yes, re-streaming anyone's copyrighted content without their permission is in violation of copyright law and the DMCA (it's a slam dunk case, actually).

I'm not here to preach about what you should/should not do, but if you care at all about esports and SC2 you should probably not pirate GOM's content. Without paying subscribers, esports simply wouldn't be sustainable (hence why it's slightly different from you pirating movies that make tens of millions of dollars or pirating lady gaga's cd's). Just some food for thought.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
November 01 2010 20:57 GMT
#3126
On November 02 2010 05:28 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 05:15 kNyTTyM wrote:
That back and forth action in game 5 was so awesome. Very micro intensive and even the creep put on a ton of pressure. It was probably the closest game I have seen to brood war. I really wish this mass marine medivac tank style could become standard but sadly it cannot. Anti-micro infestor gives a big fuck you to this style.


If you ever get the chance to tech to infestor that is

I agree, some people said Kyrix was pretty dumb for not teching up, but keeping it muta, bling roach is really all he could maintain with both having constant aggression. I think he maybe should have tried to take another expo when he was up, but Foxer was still putting on pressure even behind 30 or so food. Also, wiping the the babywerra match up, Kyrix was pretty much the only one who came close to knocking Foxer out by not going a macro intensive style.
the farm ends here
iDoMiNaTe2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
288 Posts
November 01 2010 20:57 GMT
#3127
For those who streamed GSL Last night I want to say Thank you.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 21:00:19
November 01 2010 20:58 GMT
#3128
On November 02 2010 05:46 MforWW wrote:
To whom it may concern,

I'm a lawyer irl and, yes, re-streaming anyone's copyrighted content without their permission is in violation of copyright law and the DMCA (it's a slam dunk case, actually).

I'm not here to preach about what you should/should not do, but if you care at all about esports and SC2 you should probably not pirate GOM's content. Without paying subscribers, esports simply wouldn't be sustainable (hence why it's slightly different from you pirating movies that make tens of millions of dollars or pirating lady gaga's cd's). Just some food for thought.


I personally watched a re-stream last night since I was at my parents house with my parents mac, sadly Gom doesn't have a player that works on Mac. I have paid for both seasons so far, so I have no problem with watching a re-stream, the stream is free anyways along with having no advertisements, so Im having trouble seeing why gom needs these such high ratings. They've got the numbers from me for the first season and this one(vods I've watched as well as staying up until 2 am during GSL season 1 to watch, I don't stay up until 3 to watch, a little too late for me), they should let people watch the third season now, especially mac users.. If they can't get people to sponsor and advertise the foreign stream for upcoming seasons with the current ratings they have, they need to let it go, legal issues aside
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
PallasAthena
Profile Joined September 2010
114 Posts
November 01 2010 21:06 GMT
#3129
On November 02 2010 05:58 BraveGhost wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 05:46 MforWW wrote:
To whom it may concern,

I'm a lawyer irl and, yes, re-streaming anyone's copyrighted content without their permission is in violation of copyright law and the DMCA (it's a slam dunk case, actually).

I'm not here to preach about what you should/should not do, but if you care at all about esports and SC2 you should probably not pirate GOM's content. Without paying subscribers, esports simply wouldn't be sustainable (hence why it's slightly different from you pirating movies that make tens of millions of dollars or pirating lady gaga's cd's). Just some food for thought.


I personally watched a re-stream last night since I was at my parents house with my parents mac, sadly Gom doesn't have a player that works on Mac. I have paid for both seasons so far, so I have no problem with watching a re-stream, the stream is free anyways along with having no advertisements, so Im having trouble seeing why gom needs these such high ratings. They've got the numbers from me for the first season and this one(vods I've watched as well as staying up until 2 am during GSL season 1 to watch, I don't stay up until 3 to watch, a little too late for me), they should let people watch the third season now, especially mac users.. If they can't get people to sponsor and advertise the foreign stream for upcoming seasons with the current ratings they have, they need to let it go, legal issues aside



the reason they want high viewership is because they are trying to build a "clientele" or people who are committed to watching their program

they will probably avoid advertising (for the foreigners at least) until the real GSL starts because remember the first three are more of a pilot series to get the hype and attention going.

look at MLG, they advertise on their games with doritos and other big name brands because THEY themselves are a big name brand in the video game tournament business. They already established that viewership and loyalty i guess
ScarletKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States691 Posts
November 01 2010 21:10 GMT
#3130
I can't seem to find the interview with Foxer on the VODs on GOM. Did they do one?
Looks like I picked the wrong week the quit sniffing glue
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
November 01 2010 21:11 GMT
#3131
On November 02 2010 05:28 hugman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 05:15 kNyTTyM wrote:
That back and forth action in game 5 was so awesome. Very micro intensive and even the creep put on a ton of pressure. It was probably the closest game I have seen to brood war. I really wish this mass marine medivac tank style could become standard but sadly it cannot. Anti-micro infestor gives a big fuck you to this style.


If you ever get the chance to tech to infestor that is


Just looking at these games, you can find windows where an infestor can get fitted in. It's not even like a defiler where you can still micro around it. Zerg gets 1 fungal off and you no longer get to control your units. Maybe a terran can find a way to use this heavy pressure early-midgame and quickly mech transition like that recent brood war trend.
Backpack
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1776 Posts
November 01 2010 21:26 GMT
#3132
On November 02 2010 06:10 xMagiciaN wrote:
I can't seem to find the interview with Foxer on the VODs on GOM. Did they do one?

all of the interviews are uploaded here
http://www.gomtv.net/2010gslopens2/gomcam/
"You people need to just generally care a lot less about everything." -Zatic
Ezze
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada934 Posts
November 01 2010 21:49 GMT
#3133
Boxer vs Kyrix was the most entertaining series I've seen so far in any tournament. Truly epic.

The Thor rush in the second series really bugged me, as I have yet to see anyone defeat it. The bug where you can't kill the repairing SCVs is terrible. I can not believe that hasn't been fixed.
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3889 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-01 21:59:41
November 01 2010 21:56 GMT
#3134
On November 02 2010 06:06 PallasAthena wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2010 05:58 BraveGhost wrote:
On November 02 2010 05:46 MforWW wrote:
To whom it may concern,

I'm a lawyer irl and, yes, re-streaming anyone's copyrighted content without their permission is in violation of copyright law and the DMCA (it's a slam dunk case, actually).

I'm not here to preach about what you should/should not do, but if you care at all about esports and SC2 you should probably not pirate GOM's content. Without paying subscribers, esports simply wouldn't be sustainable (hence why it's slightly different from you pirating movies that make tens of millions of dollars or pirating lady gaga's cd's). Just some food for thought.


I personally watched a re-stream last night since I was at my parents house with my parents mac, sadly Gom doesn't have a player that works on Mac. I have paid for both seasons so far, so I have no problem with watching a re-stream, the stream is free anyways along with having no advertisements, so Im having trouble seeing why gom needs these such high ratings. They've got the numbers from me for the first season and this one(vods I've watched as well as staying up until 2 am during GSL season 1 to watch, I don't stay up until 3 to watch, a little too late for me), they should let people watch the third season now, especially mac users.. If they can't get people to sponsor and advertise the foreign stream for upcoming seasons with the current ratings they have, they need to let it go, legal issues aside



the reason they want high viewership is because they are trying to build a "clientele" or people who are committed to watching their program

they will probably avoid advertising (for the foreigners at least) until the real GSL starts because remember the first three are more of a pilot series to get the hype and attention going.

look at MLG, they advertise on their games with doritos and other big name brands because THEY themselves are a big name brand in the video game tournament business. They already established that viewership and loyalty i guess



If Im watching there games on their stream when they have advertisements, I'm a client, If Im watching there streams on a restream cause they dont support mac, but I already paid them 35$ (so therefore despite me watching where I don't show up, I still show up on their #s they show to advertisers), I am still a client, I am still a # they can show to potential sponsors. the fact that what I'm doing is not supposed to be allowed is outrageous too me. I mean I watch about 50% of the games live, 95% of those I've watched on Gom player, I've watched re-streams on 2 occasions now where I didn't have my PC.

Also, i think your wrong, MLG advertises, cause they have local companies interested in their huge viewership in North America, they might be an established company in NA, but GOM was way way way more established as far as SC is concerned, MLG hit the jack pot on their gamble with SC2, and we should expect some major improvements from them next year. GOM will advertise as soon as they find some company that is interested in a worldwide market. You need to have your product appeal to a ton of people, not a single area, I'm sure they have someone interested in advertising for next year, but its probably going to be something like the coca cola starleague, a 1 season thing. I doubt we will see a consistent sponsor of GOM. I'm also curious if they will discontinue charging since the reason they are changing now is cause they aren't throwing ads at us, or at least that's what I took from their statement about the price per season.

If all they care about is if people are watching, and trying to build a following or clientele, then they would have made EVERYTHING free. Vods, HQ, etc, then they would advertise this as the qualifications for their real tournaments next year, and kind of like a sampler platter, instead of doing it the way they are doing it, where this is the REAL thing. This way anybody can watch and see if this tournament gameplay is for them. Right now tons of casual gamers that would normally watch MLG, aren't watching gom, cause it's at a pretty awkward time of night to watch it for free, and 20$ is expensive if your not sure you want to watch it. My friend who is in to watching BW with me, did not want to watch GOM since he didn't want to pay 20$... However, he watches MLG and BW still.. I doubt he is a 1 of a kind. Instead, they are trying to sell their product to us without even getting off the ground, while I am happy with the product, and happy with my purchase, the way they handle people with MACs, people re-streaming, etc is ... disappointing to say the least
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
hkfosho
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada213 Posts
November 01 2010 22:02 GMT
#3135
I think it's safe to say that foxer vs kryix was the sickest series in the history of SC2 so far.
ReseT
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States273 Posts
November 01 2010 22:02 GMT
#3136
Anywhere I can watch G2-G5?
vVv Gaming
hkfosho
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada213 Posts
November 01 2010 22:09 GMT
#3137
On November 02 2010 07:02 ReseT wrote:
Anywhere I can watch G2-G5?


http://www.justin.tv/carefoot/videos

from the 7th VOD, game 2 starts at around 1:40 mark
Contagious
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States1319 Posts
November 01 2010 22:35 GMT
#3138
Meh, just watched the 2 matches. First match was soooooooo sick.. second one was terrible, because once again GOMTV pulled a cool move and spoiled the winner -.-.

Go Boxer though since there is no more protoss ~
Leeto
Profile Joined August 2007
United States1320 Posts
November 01 2010 22:36 GMT
#3139
Fake Boxer vs Kyrix was hands down the best series I've seen in SC2. Crazy comeback in game 5, and ridiculous marine micro all the way.
Keldaur
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain55 Posts
November 01 2010 22:38 GMT
#3140
His micro on game 1 was the best imho. He was macroing and multitasking like mad. Game 5 was impressive and epic, but i believe game 1, was better.
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