On October 14 2010 14:51 Hrrrrm wrote:
I'm sure the brackets are random from the perspective of individual matchups. GSL probably did some filtering though which I don't mind to evenly distribute the races among the brackets. In the end as long as they didn't favor keeping X player away from Y player specifically, it really doesn't affect anything.

Yes, it just magically happened that the two players with the most fans and potential to draw viewership for the GSL2 are in the easiest bracket. The people at GOM knew what they were doing. They know Boxer and NaDa will draw far more viewers than anyone besides maybe fruitdealer, and so they put them together in the easiest bracket. It's business. They're trying to grow their brand and their tournament.

Yeah thats true, or it could be alot of those people we don't recognise are beastly.

At any rate id really like to see boxer and nada qualify for S or A rank next year so we can see them playing on a regular basis hehe

same... if they get seeded now for s or a rank for next season, I'll be a happy camper :D..

TLO will draw the largest viewership from the foreign community (the people who actually have to pay to watch) as well as a very larger audience in Korea, and he has one of the toughest players in the tournament first round.

Not saying he draws a larger audience than Fruitdealer, Nada, or Boxer, but I have a hard time believing that they are fixing brakets when the two foreigners both have difficult groups. Furthermore, most of those players are unknown, which means that there is just as much chance that they are very good as very bad, we simply don't know until the tournament starts.

I think GOM views foreigners as basically just a periphery bonus market. They care about the Korean market above anything else. That's why they've made the brackets to favor the popular ex-BW pros, because the Korean market is by far the most important. No matter what, their most lucrative and important market is the Korean market, which will tune in to watch their favorites like Boxer and NaDa. I don't think IdrA and TLO's brackets being difficult is a good argument that they're not adjusting the brackets. Think about the Olympics. Who do most people root for in the Olympics? The players from their own country. That's why the Korean ex-BW pros like Boxer and NaDa have had their brackets made incredibly easy, because they will attract Korean fans and viewership. Take a look at bracket C and tell me it wasn't designed to make sure at least one of Boxer and NaDa advances far in the tournament.

Just because Sangho is an ex-BW programmer , people are getting way too hyped up.

Remember , july zerg couldn"t even qualify for the tourney ,what"s to say Sangho is as good with SC2 as he is with BW.

Just wait and watch the tourney please.

And yet people fail to realize that the GSL1 finalists were also ex-BW progamers. Yet Boxer/Nada were even more successfull (what an understatement) than them. So ofcourse it makes the fans think they could reach the finals. Especially if you're nicknamed the Genius Terran and the Emperor >.>

bRuTaL!!

Finland588 Posts

October 14 2010 07:44 GMT

#183

My prediction is mvp vs FruitDealer in the finals!

JustQuitWarcraftIII

United States679 Posts

October 14 2010 07:48 GMT

#184

On October 14 2010 16:35 Crywolf wrote:
Where is OgsSTC?

In the military.

Craixs

Denmark170 Posts

October 14 2010 07:48 GMT

#185

I feel sorry for TLO this hopes for Ro8 is kind of hard, he start of my protoss hope in the tournement, and he need to i smash some fruits to proceed to his final 8.

Besides that I will cheer for Nada all the wayeven tho he is terran.

Cyanocyst

2222 Posts

October 14 2010 07:48 GMT

#186

On October 14 2010 16:35 Crywolf wrote:
Where is OgsSTC?

Idk but i agree, Hes my favorite Terran and im a zerg player.

FrostedMiniWheats

United States30730 Posts

October 14 2010 07:50 GMT

#187

Hmm, lots of people here seem to hold Sangho in high regard. I understand he's an accomplished BW player, but do we actually have anything notable of him playing SC2 aside from qualifying? Or is this just another case of expecting SC1 ability to transfer over to SC2? If that's the case I don't think TLO should worry, he's already proven he could beat both BoxeR and Nada rather convincingly.

Sobba

Sweden576 Posts

October 14 2010 07:51 GMT

#188

Not even close to random brackets. They have obviously handpicked them. The most interesting players for Koreans and foreigners are evenly spread out.

NeoLearner

Belgium1847 Posts

October 14 2010 07:51 GMT

#189

On October 14 2010 16:31 Bswhunter wrote:
Cannot wait.
Also, whats the predictions on how many ZvZ's we'll see in Ro32?

I predicted a heavy Zerg Ro32. Then again, I'm hugely biased

I think I took:
FruitDealer
PhoenixWerra. Although that was probably a mistake
oGsCezanne
CheckPrime
jookToJung
Suhoshin (수호신)
EGIdrA
NesTea
oGsTheWinD
oGsZenio
to win.

What do we know about ChickenCombo (반반치킨), EGIdra's opponent? Who did he eliminate to get here?

On October 14 2010 16:34 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
that actually looks like a good bracket for idra... COME ON GREG!

Does look good. I think I have him down as loosing to Zenio. If not that, he'll have to face Maka, who has had to fight 2 Zerg players to get there

.kv

United States2332 Posts

October 14 2010 07:52 GMT

#190

Bracket B is stacked to the max...holy crap

IntoTheRainboW, InCa, NEXGenius, Clide, and CheckPrime

Just my prediction

Bracket A
FruitDealer > oGsEnsnare (I'm rooting for HongUnPrime to pull an upset though)

Bracket B
IntoTheRainboW < InCa (InCa is all I have left with sSKS gone lmao...Clide will probably be his hardest opponent and if he can beat him, he can beat ITR in my opinion...I see Clide as a better Terran player than ITR)

Bracket C
BoxeR > NaDa (I wouldn't be surprised if Lyn takes it; honestly NaDa hasn't really impressed me from what I've seen from him and BoxeR is getting better everyday but still has a lot to improve on)

Bracket D
EGIdrA > MakaPrime (If Maka plays stupid like he did in the first GSL, Iron will take his spot but he too will lose to IdrA. IdrA is the 2nd best SC2 gamer in my opinion; though he plays very consistently in his playstyle, he forces it upon his opponents to play it too. I see very weak spots in his game like FruitDealer)

leveller

Sweden1840 Posts

October 14 2010 07:53 GMT

#191

What a douchebag to call himself boxer when the real boxer is already in the tournament.

Sobba

Sweden576 Posts

October 14 2010 07:54 GMT

#192

wrong

BlueBird.

United States3890 Posts

October 14 2010 07:55 GMT

#193

On October 14 2010 16:53 leveller wrote:
What a douchebag to call himself boxer when the real boxer is already in the tournament.

it's not like you have the option to change your id or anything =/.. battlenet 2.0

cerebralz

United States443 Posts

October 14 2010 08:16 GMT

#194

I think all in all, a pretty brilliantly seeded bracket.

Fruitdealer with a good road to the quarters.

Idra with a steady diet of T for an excellent chance to make it to the ro8 also to face JangMinChul.

Both foreigners are separated.

The best chance we will see of Boxer vs. Nada will be in the ro8, any higher and one or both would have been eliminated.

ITR with a relatively easier bracket to place high again.

Caphe

Vietnam10817 Posts

October 14 2010 08:19 GMT

#195

Cant wait for Manofoneway vs Boxer.. XD

thesighter

United States347 Posts

October 14 2010 08:19 GMT

#196

My predictions:

FruitDealer will win it all again. Other 3 semfinalists will be Terran.
In quarterfinals, there will be 7 terran, with only FruitDealer as non terran.

Bracket A - FruitDealer will beat TLO in round of 16. His match against oGsEnsnare in round of 8 will be very difficult.

Bracket B - Suspect that Clide will take right bracket, and lose to HopeTorture.

Bracket C - Don't think that Boxer or Nada will win, even though the bracket was designed for them.
This bracket is weak, seems like a crapshoot.

Bracket D - idra has it tough. I don't see him getting past r32 vs oGsGon or r16 vs mvp.
Thinking it'll end up as mvp vs Maka.

bokeevboke

Singapore1674 Posts

October 14 2010 08:35 GMT

#197

BoxeR smurfing and uisng two accounts

Ocedic

United States1808 Posts

October 14 2010 08:42 GMT

#198

TLO vs Sangho: Honestly I don't know why people are worried for TLO at all. We haven't seen Sangho play, but unless he is leaps and bounds above other Korean Protoss he really doesn't stand a chance against TLO, given the win % stats in the previous GSL for TvP. I actually hope Sangho wins, but more likely than not it will be a 2-0 blowout in favor of TLO.

TLO vs Fruitdealer: A lot of disagreement over this one it seems. Fruitdealer has a very strong ZvT, but TLO's harassment style seems highly effective against Fruitdealer's rather lackluster early game. Could go either way but this is in TLO's favor for sure.

SlayerBoxer vs Nada: Bracket C is kind of stacked hoping this matchup will happen. I don't think Nada will have any problem getting to the Ro16, but Boxer has to face Gas, who was previously on TSL (but no longer is, so perhaps he isn't that good,) and potentially Loner as well, the third foreigner in the tourney. Based on what little we've seen from Boxer, I'm not super confident he'll get to Ro16, but anything's possible.

Pervect

1280 Posts

October 14 2010 08:44 GMT

#199

oGsGon is very good and would be a tough opponent for IdrA.

-Archangel-

Croatia7457 Posts

October 14 2010 08:48 GMT

#200

On October 14 2010 17:35 bokeevboke wrote:
BoxeR smurfing and uisng two accounts

Yea, and it will be an epic match where he plays against himself.