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On October 09 2010 23:02 z00t wrote:Gotta say that I'm surprised at how few Zergs made it through today. Especially when Blizz's ladder stats seem to indicate an increased % of Zergs in the top levels of the ladder - I took it as a sign that there were more Zerg wins going around. I know that ladder skill isn't necessarily an indication that you're tournament material, but it's not like we should completely discount ladder stats. Let's face it - you don't get to be in the top 100 by not knowing how to play the game. I'm expecting those Zergs who do get into the Ro64 (and I'm still waiting on more this season) to go further in the tournament. In particular, I felt that we haven't seen Idra playing at his top. I'm sure this season, he'll avoid some of the mistakes he made in GSL1 and that he'll go far  .
Only Zerg that I felt "deservers" to play in ro64 but failed to qualify today is Losira, althought Haypro is probably also a bit better than some of these players on the list. But even in Losiras case, he was dropped out by Tankboy, a very good player himself. Still 3 days to go, we will know more tommorow.
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I don't think you can say consistently when it has been only 2 times. Also the Heosat already replied that they fully support them being in korea. I think Jinro just had a though group. He is climbing the ranks fast so I'm sure that after another month he will be in a very good shape
Yeah I probably jumped the gun there, still too early to say consistently. They are both enjoyable players to watch and it is just frustrating after seeing them in so many tournaments during beta and after release to not see much tournament action from them for a few months but hopefully if they keep practicing in korea that will change.
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Moon, Artosis noooo! I'm happy LyN Made it through (Wc3 player) been happily watching him for years. I await Grubby's emergence into the scene.
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On October 10 2010 00:05 joonp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2010 23:42 Cider wrote:On October 09 2010 23:33 joonp wrote: jinro and haypro failing to qualify, TL isnt' doing too hot
hopefully TLO will qualify, and if HuK is playing in this him also Huk is at IEM. well it looks like the qualifying matches are done at different days so maybe he can be in the late qualifying rounds and still try to qualify for it i hope, because i want to see how HuK fares up against the koreans
HuK will go to korea for GSL3 so unfortunately you won't be seeing him in GSL2
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On October 10 2010 00:11 bRuTaL!! wrote: Only Zerg that I felt "deservers" to play in ro64 today is Losira, althought Haypro is probably also a bit better than some of these players on the list. But even in Losiras case, he was dropped out by Tankboy, a very good player himself. Still 3 days to go, we will know more tommorow.
So you are saying that Idra or Phoenix doesn't deserve to be in ro64, or am i missing something here? Thats the most idiotic thing I've ever heard if so.
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if people were bested in the qualifiers then they didn't deserve to go through. this is virtual warfare, not Omgz i got more fans then you i deserve to go through.
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On October 10 2010 00:14 Duravi wrote:Show nested quote +I don't think you can say consistently when it has been only 2 times. Also the Heosat already replied that they fully support them being in korea. I think Jinro just had a though group. He is climbing the ranks fast so I'm sure that after another month he will be in a very good shape Yeah I probably jumped the gun there, still too early to say consistently. They are both enjoyable players to watch and it is just frustrating after seeing them in so many tournaments during beta and after release to not see much tournament action from them for a few months but hopefully if they keep practicing in korea that will change. I dont know if it was a "good group" (it wasnt a terrible group, but it could have been a lot worse - there were a couple of high ranked 55%ish P players in it, the winner being an ex-pro, maybe someone else noticeable) but it wasnt a HARD group I think.
However losing 2-1 to some allins can happen when you arent significantly better than your opponent.
Id post the replays but I dunno if my opponent would want that.
For comparison, my KR ladder account: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/697060/tmkase
My opponents: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/157862/셀레셀레하게해줄
Its not really a huge upset to lose 1-2 here, though I wish it was
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I wouldn't mind if you posted the replays (if that's allowed or not bm).
Side note: Just checking on liquipedia, so there are seeded players for the season now? Cause that would be great to kind of guarantee Rainbow and Cool do make it to Ro64.
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oGsGon is my dark horse for going far in the GSL, he plays really well on Gisado.
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On October 10 2010 00:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 00:14 Duravi wrote:I don't think you can say consistently when it has been only 2 times. Also the Heosat already replied that they fully support them being in korea. I think Jinro just had a though group. He is climbing the ranks fast so I'm sure that after another month he will be in a very good shape Yeah I probably jumped the gun there, still too early to say consistently. They are both enjoyable players to watch and it is just frustrating after seeing them in so many tournaments during beta and after release to not see much tournament action from them for a few months but hopefully if they keep practicing in korea that will change. I dont know if it was a "good group" (it wasnt a terrible group, but it could have been a lot worse - there were a couple of high ranked 55%ish P players in it, the winner being an ex-pro, maybe someone else noticeable) but it wasnt a HARD group I think. However losing 2-1 to some allins can happen when you arent significantly better than your opponent. Id post the replays but I dunno if my opponent would want that.
What sort of allins? Just wondering...
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On October 10 2010 00:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 00:14 Duravi wrote:I don't think you can say consistently when it has been only 2 times. Also the Heosat already replied that they fully support them being in korea. I think Jinro just had a though group. He is climbing the ranks fast so I'm sure that after another month he will be in a very good shape Yeah I probably jumped the gun there, still too early to say consistently. They are both enjoyable players to watch and it is just frustrating after seeing them in so many tournaments during beta and after release to not see much tournament action from them for a few months but hopefully if they keep practicing in korea that will change. I dont know if it was a "good group" (it wasnt a terrible group, but it could have been a lot worse - there were a couple of high ranked 55%ish P players in it, the winner being ana ex-pro, maybe someone else noticeable) but it wasnt a HARD group I think. However losing 2-1 to some allins can happen when you arent significantly better than your opponent. Id post the replays but I dunno if my opponent would want that. For comparison, my KR ladder account: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/697060/tmkaseMy opponents: http://sc2ranks.com/kr/157862/셀레셀레하게해줄Its not really a huge upset to lose 1-2 here, though I wish it was 
You should do those allins in the GSL3 
On October 10 2010 00:44 PartyBiscuit wrote: I wouldn't mind if you posted the replays (if that's allowed or not bm).
Side note: Just checking on liquipedia, so there are seeded players for the season now? Cause that would be great to kind of guarantee Rainbow and Cool do make it to Ro64.
There is no seeding yet so Ranbow and Cool have to go through the qualifying round as the others.
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On October 10 2010 00:46 Zozo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 00:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On October 10 2010 00:14 Duravi wrote:I don't think you can say consistently when it has been only 2 times. Also the Heosat already replied that they fully support them being in korea. I think Jinro just had a though group. He is climbing the ranks fast so I'm sure that after another month he will be in a very good shape Yeah I probably jumped the gun there, still too early to say consistently. They are both enjoyable players to watch and it is just frustrating after seeing them in so many tournaments during beta and after release to not see much tournament action from them for a few months but hopefully if they keep practicing in korea that will change. I dont know if it was a "good group" (it wasnt a terrible group, but it could have been a lot worse - there were a couple of high ranked 55%ish P players in it, the winner being an ex-pro, maybe someone else noticeable) but it wasnt a HARD group I think. However losing 2-1 to some allins can happen when you arent significantly better than your opponent. Id post the replays but I dunno if my opponent would want that. What sort of allins? Just wondering...
Would like to know what happened as well.
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Really sad to see Artosis didn't qualify. Better luck next time.
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On October 10 2010 00:54 spybreak wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2010 00:46 Zozo wrote:On October 10 2010 00:39 Liquid`Jinro wrote:On October 10 2010 00:14 Duravi wrote:I don't think you can say consistently when it has been only 2 times. Also the Heosat already replied that they fully support them being in korea. I think Jinro just had a though group. He is climbing the ranks fast so I'm sure that after another month he will be in a very good shape Yeah I probably jumped the gun there, still too early to say consistently. They are both enjoyable players to watch and it is just frustrating after seeing them in so many tournaments during beta and after release to not see much tournament action from them for a few months but hopefully if they keep practicing in korea that will change. I dont know if it was a "good group" (it wasnt a terrible group, but it could have been a lot worse - there were a couple of high ranked 55%ish P players in it, the winner being an ex-pro, maybe someone else noticeable) but it wasnt a HARD group I think. However losing 2-1 to some allins can happen when you arent significantly better than your opponent. Id post the replays but I dunno if my opponent would want that. What sort of allins? Just wondering... Would like to know what happened as well.
There were at least mothership rush one base colossus.
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Unholyrai, indeed the current system makes qualification very difficult. It does strike me however that open, unseeded qualifiers would benefit from double elimination in order to provide a second chance from an unlucky loss. Indeed it would seem to suit the current structure where two people from each quali group are passing to the Ro64 anyway.
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Double elim with bo3 would take forever. Like nearly twice as long as it already takes. I mean you can say the prelims are hard and unfair etc, but they use the same format (bo3) as they do in the mainstage of the tournament til semifinals so I think its not that bad.
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Thanks for keeping the thread updated. Really glad those who made it made, and really sad those who didn't didn't. GSL2 is shaping up to be pretty awesome.
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It's ok jinro and haypro, you'll get em next time ^^
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I still love you, Jonathaninro.
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