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Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
September 02 2010 17:58 GMT
#221
On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long.


Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play.


You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak.
Happykola
Profile Joined March 2010
United Kingdom62 Posts
September 02 2010 17:58 GMT
#222
what the fuck is going on on the stream
Ars long, Vita brevis, Occasio praeceps, Experimentum periculosum, Iudicium difficile
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
September 02 2010 17:59 GMT
#223
On September 03 2010 02:57 zokj wrote:
so when we all pay $50 a tourny for GSL this sort of thing will never happen right?

man I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if battle.net crapped out for three hours during a major live event...wow
✌
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 02 2010 18:00 GMT
#224
On September 03 2010 02:58 Cranberries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:
On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long.


Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play.


You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak.


No.No it doesn't?And phoenix gives you constant scouting?It's hard to micro though.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
September 02 2010 18:01 GMT
#225
On September 03 2010 02:59 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 02:57 zokj wrote:
so when we all pay $50 a tourny for GSL this sort of thing will never happen right?

man I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if battle.net crapped out for three hours during a major live event...wow

I really hope that happens.

However, I expect they've negotiated their own server or something.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Wuffey
Profile Joined May 2010
252 Posts
September 02 2010 18:01 GMT
#226
bnet going down during blizzcon would be pretty satisfying
Deathfate
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain555 Posts
September 02 2010 18:02 GMT
#227
This Bnet 0.2 is embarrasing, just terrible terrible work blizzard.
Feel the power of the zerg swarm.
Cranberries
Profile Joined July 2010
Wales567 Posts
September 02 2010 18:02 GMT
#228
On September 03 2010 03:00 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 02:58 Cranberries wrote:
On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:
On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long.


Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play.


You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak.


No.No it doesn't?And phoenix gives you constant scouting?It's hard to micro though.


Clearly you don't understand that Robo tech grants nothing to fend off Banshee/Marine pushes. Colossi take "too long" realistically, and the rest of the tech is pointless except the Observer which is a necessity because, as I said, you'll lose to cloak.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
September 02 2010 18:02 GMT
#229
1-2, ggs
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
amanet
Profile Joined December 2007
Croatia334 Posts
September 02 2010 18:02 GMT
#230
demuslim looks drunk already
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
September 02 2010 18:03 GMT
#231
On September 03 2010 03:02 Cranberries wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 03:00 nafta wrote:
On September 03 2010 02:58 Cranberries wrote:
On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:
On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long.


Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play.


You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak.


No.No it doesn't?And phoenix gives you constant scouting?It's hard to micro though.


Clearly you don't understand that Robo tech grants nothing to fend off Banshee/Marine pushes. Colossi take "too long" realistically, and the rest of the tech is pointless except the Observer which is a necessity because, as I said, you'll lose to cloak.


I was talking about phoenix openings.You can hold off anything it's just really hard.Anyway hope the games start finally !
zokj
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada136 Posts
September 02 2010 18:03 GMT
#232
On September 03 2010 03:01 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 02:59 JWD wrote:
On September 03 2010 02:57 zokj wrote:
so when we all pay $50 a tourny for GSL this sort of thing will never happen right?

man I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if battle.net crapped out for three hours during a major live event...wow

I really hope that happens.

However, I expect they've negotiated their own server or something.


These are the sorts of insurances we need to commit the kind of money they're asking.. even for low quality. If they don't have some control over these variables then a free low-qual stream is a reasonable way to admit that sometimes there will be problems out of Gom's control.

Looks like some games are happening now. Thats good!
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
September 02 2010 18:04 GMT
#233
On September 03 2010 03:02 G.s)NarutO wrote:
1-2, ggs


well on the stream they said you won, sad
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
September 02 2010 18:06 GMT
#234
Demu dropping the f-bomb. Good times.
ZGeer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States87 Posts
September 02 2010 18:06 GMT
#235
I really like the ultra casual shoutcasting for the games so far, it's pretty fun.
grigorin
Profile Joined December 2009
Austria275 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-02 18:11:50
September 02 2010 18:08 GMT
#236
does anybody know the URL of the stream, because in browser it doesn't work on my ubuntu client.

I tried
./OctoshapeClient -url:octoshape:esl.oph350
and I get a stream, but I think its not the right one (no SC2 atm)

edit:
google is my friend:
## Free Stream
./OctoshapeClient -url:esl.oph350
## Dennis' Stream
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esltv.proxy
## Andere
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esl.dell
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esltv.estars
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esltv.external
debasers
Profile Joined August 2010
737 Posts
September 02 2010 18:11 GMT
#237
IS DIMAGA PLAYING IN DEMUSLIN ACCOUNT?
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
September 02 2010 18:11 GMT
#238
'my girlfriend has a present for you'

HAHAHAHAHA
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
Jarvs
Profile Joined December 2009
Australia639 Posts
September 02 2010 18:12 GMT
#239
http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-proxy <- is what i'm using. Requires octoshape plugin as far as I'm aware.
Hansel
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany311 Posts
September 02 2010 18:12 GMT
#240
Really liking the shoutcast, superb work take!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_hDyfmEw4
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