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On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long. Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play.
You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak.
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what the fuck is going on on the stream
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United States12607 Posts
On September 03 2010 02:57 zokj wrote:
so when we all pay $50 a tourny for GSL this sort of thing will never happen right?
man I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if battle.net crapped out for three hours during a major live event...wow
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On September 03 2010 02:58 Cranberries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long. Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play. You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak.
No.No it doesn't?And phoenix gives you constant scouting?It's hard to micro though.
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On September 03 2010 02:59 JWD wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 02:57 zokj wrote:
so when we all pay $50 a tourny for GSL this sort of thing will never happen right? man I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if battle.net crapped out for three hours during a major live event...wow
I really hope that happens.
However, I expect they've negotiated their own server or something.
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bnet going down during blizzcon would be pretty satisfying
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This Bnet 0.2 is embarrasing, just terrible terrible work blizzard.
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On September 03 2010 03:00 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 02:58 Cranberries wrote:On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long. Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play. You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak. No.No it doesn't?And phoenix gives you constant scouting?It's hard to micro though.
Clearly you don't understand that Robo tech grants nothing to fend off Banshee/Marine pushes. Colossi take "too long" realistically, and the rest of the tech is pointless except the Observer which is a necessity because, as I said, you'll lose to cloak.
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demuslim looks drunk already 
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On September 03 2010 03:02 Cranberries wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 03:00 nafta wrote:On September 03 2010 02:58 Cranberries wrote:On September 03 2010 02:56 nafta wrote:On September 03 2010 02:55 Cranberries wrote:
Whitera lost to the marine/banshee push twice ... The same style TLO beat him with at IEM. Marine/Banshee pushes are incredibly hard to defend as Protoss because Stalkers are weak against any stimmed Barracks unit, and they're needed to defend against Banshees. Whitera tried to go for Robo bay play and got shut down, and then tried to go for Blink Stalkers and lost a second time. Both games were 13-15 minutes long. Why don't protoss start opening phoenix?That's what I did and have no problem with that style of play. You open pheonix and then the Terran goes to MMM and crushes you regardless? Terran have a lot of flexibility which is why this build is so strong ... You can't scout it (unless you go Robo) and when you do go Robo you've set yourself up against the wall. Banshee/Marine counters Robo tech pretty hard, and you need to go Robo because otherwise you'll lose to cloak. No.No it doesn't?And phoenix gives you constant scouting?It's hard to micro though. Clearly you don't understand that Robo tech grants nothing to fend off Banshee/Marine pushes. Colossi take "too long" realistically, and the rest of the tech is pointless except the Observer which is a necessity because, as I said, you'll lose to cloak.
I was talking about phoenix openings.You can hold off anything it's just really hard.Anyway hope the games start finally !
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On September 03 2010 03:01 Klive5ive wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2010 02:59 JWD wrote:On September 03 2010 02:57 zokj wrote:
so when we all pay $50 a tourny for GSL this sort of thing will never happen right? man I can't even imagine the shitstorm that would ensue if battle.net crapped out for three hours during a major live event...wow I really hope that happens. However, I expect they've negotiated their own server or something.
These are the sorts of insurances we need to commit the kind of money they're asking.. even for low quality. If they don't have some control over these variables then a free low-qual stream is a reasonable way to admit that sometimes there will be problems out of Gom's control.
Looks like some games are happening now. Thats good!
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On September 03 2010 03:02 G.s)NarutO wrote:
1-2, ggs
well on the stream they said you won, sad
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Demu dropping the f-bomb. Good times.
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I really like the ultra casual shoutcasting for the games so far, it's pretty fun.
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does anybody know the URL of the stream, because in browser it doesn't work on my ubuntu client.
I tried
./OctoshapeClient -url:octoshape:esl.oph350
and I get a stream, but I think its not the right one (no SC2 atm)
edit:
google is my friend:
## Free Stream
./OctoshapeClient -url:esl.oph350
## Dennis' Stream
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esltv.proxy
## Andere
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esl.dell
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esltv.estars
./OctoshapeClient -url:tetv.esltv.external
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IS DIMAGA PLAYING IN DEMUSLIN ACCOUNT?
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United Kingdom16710 Posts
'my girlfriend has a present for you'
HAHAHAHAHA
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Really liking the shoutcast, superb work take!
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EPT
