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QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
August 19 2010 16:43 GMT
#1601
On August 20 2010 01:41 Catalyst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 01:38 Black Gun wrote:
wtf?! seriously, wtf just happened?

seems like T -> mass 1 type of bio unit, control it well -> win.
What the hell is wrong with you people?

The fact that Idra invariably expands immediately and powers drones isn't a consideration at all? If this was Brood War a fast expand vs. rush would be considered a build order loss. Why is the complete predictability of Idra's play not taken into consideration here?



People are so jaded by their hate for Terran, and therefore logic no longer becomes a factor.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 19 2010 16:43 GMT
#1602
On August 20 2010 01:42 KingRajesh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 01:41 Catalyst wrote:
On August 20 2010 01:38 Black Gun wrote:
wtf?! seriously, wtf just happened?

seems like T -> mass 1 type of bio unit, control it well -> win.
What the hell is wrong with you people?

The fact that Idra invariably expands immediately and powers drones isn't a consideration at all? If this was Brood War a fast expand vs. rush would be considered a build order loss. Why is the complete predictability of Idra's play not taken into consideration here?


Because there isn't anything else to do.

You need to fast expand against a terran to even have a chance.


DIMAGA just beat two Terrans without FE.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
August 19 2010 16:43 GMT
#1603
remember hes playing with people beside him in RL, he cant hide behind his computer. he will gg every game
savior did nothing wrong
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 19 2010 16:43 GMT
#1604
On August 20 2010 01:42 Contention wrote:
To people who're saying IdrA should've gotten Roaches, the problem with that against this build is the Terran already has 3+ Rax w/ Tech Labs so they simply start pressing their D button instead of R and instantly have a giant counter to your Roaches for a quick push.


Idra had a spire going up, the roaches would have helped him survive until muta, and rauders obviously do nothing against muta.
TaKemE
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark1045 Posts
August 19 2010 16:43 GMT
#1605
If Idra loses 2-0 there is a good chance he will not make it to the playoffs if Strelok wins as well.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42384 Posts
August 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#1606
On August 20 2010 01:43 TaKemE wrote:
If Idra loses 2-0 there is a good chance he will not make it to the playoffs if Strelok wins as well.


Eh, they are all 2-1 then right? so they need to regame or something?
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
August 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#1607
On August 20 2010 01:42 Sqq wrote:
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On August 20 2010 01:41 Geo.Rion wrote:
On August 20 2010 01:40 Sqq wrote:
if strelok goes 2-0 and demuslim goes 2-0, is IdrA out ?

No, you cant be out with two 2-0 wins. Tiebreakers at worst


they said that he wasn't 100% sure to go through, so ?

i guess it could come down to tiebrakers, but count, if Idra goes 0-2 now he'll be 4w-2L and 2-1 series. That can be topped only by 5w-2L. I think it's impossible that 2 player gets that in one group. So if they are even i guess tiebraker or some sort of funky stuff, but Idra is quite ensured.
"Protoss is a joke" Liquid`Jinro Okt.1. 2011
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 16:46:13
August 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#1608
On August 20 2010 01:43 TaKemE wrote:
If Idra loses 2-0 there is a good chance he will not make it to the playoffs if Strelok wins as well.


He will advance because he will have the same win loss difference and won the head to head against strelok. What other tie breaker would there be? Except of they play a tie breaker rematch or something weird like that.
Brad
Profile Joined April 2010
2754 Posts
August 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#1609
Ooo, DeMusliM inviting a macro game. Ballsy.
Lee Jae Dong proved that a focus on mechanics and execution could solve problems in the StarCraft game strategy.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
August 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#1610
DeMuslim going for the SC2 version of siege expand.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
August 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#1611
I hope Idra wins so he can go back to CJ entus and flash his 15k from SC2 not SC1.
http://grooveshark.com/#/deltrus/music
Tantaburs
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1825 Posts
August 19 2010 16:45 GMT
#1612
I hate it when they start early what happened first game?
"One cannot play StarCraft with clenched fish.." ~Nick "Confucius" Plott
QuakerOats
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1024 Posts
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1613
On August 20 2010 01:43 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 01:42 Contention wrote:
To people who're saying IdrA should've gotten Roaches, the problem with that against this build is the Terran already has 3+ Rax w/ Tech Labs so they simply start pressing their D button instead of R and instantly have a giant counter to your Roaches for a quick push.


Idra had a spire going up, the roaches would have helped him survive until muta, and rauders obviously do nothing against muta.


If he built roach he would have had a much worse economy, would've spent gas on roaches so when the mutas come out there's only 2 or 3 of them. Terran already had 5 rax on two bases, throw up a few turrets and you're set.

Not saying this build is unbeatable, but... there's no apparent counter to it.
KingRajesh
Profile Joined July 2010
United States927 Posts
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1614
On August 20 2010 01:43 Brad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2010 01:42 KingRajesh wrote:
On August 20 2010 01:41 Catalyst wrote:
On August 20 2010 01:38 Black Gun wrote:
wtf?! seriously, wtf just happened?

seems like T -> mass 1 type of bio unit, control it well -> win.
What the hell is wrong with you people?

The fact that Idra invariably expands immediately and powers drones isn't a consideration at all? If this was Brood War a fast expand vs. rush would be considered a build order loss. Why is the complete predictability of Idra's play not taken into consideration here?


Because there isn't anything else to do.

You need to fast expand against a terran to even have a chance.


DIMAGA just beat two Terrans without FE.


Those terrans were terrible, and pretty sure Dimaga fast expanded against Sarens.
"Zerg are the absolute worst thing that can happen to your day" - Dustin Browder
dambros
Profile Joined July 2010
Brazil432 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 16:46:33
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1615
Did idra lose the series? I couldn't follow it :/
No pain, no gain!
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-19 16:46:56
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1616
On August 20 2010 01:45 Tantaburs wrote:
I hate it when they start early what happened first game?

reaper rush + slightly greedy IdrA -> quick win for DM

DeMuslim 1:0 IdrA atm
✌
kar1181
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom515 Posts
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1617
No, just the first game.
Gaxton
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden2328 Posts
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1618
On August 20 2010 01:46 dambros wrote:
Did idra lost the series? I couldn't follow it :/


Just the first match.
QueueQueue
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada1000 Posts
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1619
On August 20 2010 01:46 dambros wrote:
Did idra lose the series? I couldn't follow it :/


No, he lost the first game.
Skyze
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada2324 Posts
August 19 2010 16:46 GMT
#1620
On August 20 2010 01:43 EleanorRIgby wrote:
remember hes playing with people beside him in RL, he cant hide behind his computer. he will gg every game


Remember also he doesnt feel pressure to be eliminated in this game, hes up 2-0. I bet if this was like an elimination match, and he lost, he'd be nerdraging.

But yes also, being the smallest guy in the room, hes holding back his bad manner.
Canada Gaming ~~ The-Feared
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