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IEM5 and StarCraft II - the first chapter - Page 2

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prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
August 16 2010 05:18 GMT
#21
carmac for prez!

nice to see more ESR people here on teamliquid :D
liquid` fighting!
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
August 16 2010 08:18 GMT
#22
On August 16 2010 13:46 Hakker wrote:
This sounds awesome :D

I just have one question, im not too sure how these things work but will the event in NYC be open to spectators? I live literally 30-45 minutes outside nyc and would love to get the chance to see this.


You'll be able to spectate without a problem! We also reward people who travel the longest distance in order to spectate our events - show up, show us your ticket proving the distance traveled and if you're in the top 3, you get a prize. You're not that far off, but who knows...? ;-)
www.intelextrememasters.com
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
August 16 2010 08:30 GMT
#23
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 16 2010 08:31 GMT
#24
I'm very much looking forward to this event.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 16 2010 08:41 GMT
#25
Thanks for the taking the time to put all of this together! The thread is a great intro to all that is IEM, and I look orward to watching this even when it begins.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 16 2010 08:42 GMT
#26
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.
theonlyking
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany18 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 09:00:04
August 16 2010 08:58 GMT
#27
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 16 2010 09:04 GMT
#28
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.


I said that it's an issue Carmac should look into, which does not imply that they are in the wrong. I say this because it is an accusation IdrA has made against the ESL establishment and has already gathered strong "crowd momentum" within the TL community as a strike against ESL's reputation. Consequently, it needs to be addressed if the ESL is to preserve its credibility with many people here, which I'm sure they desire since TL is, after all, the biggest community for professional SC/SC 2.

Also, it's not like unpaid winnings are that rare in eSports. Last I checked, the ESWC has still yet to pay Ted for performances over a year ago.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
August 16 2010 09:06 GMT
#29
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.

Considering he's a member of CJ Entus I'll base my assumption on IdrA's word and the reason he's going is because he's a member of CJ Entus. He gets paid based of the fact he plays for the team. The money is a bonus.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
theonlyking
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany18 Posts
August 16 2010 09:13 GMT
#30
On August 16 2010 18:06 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.

Considering he's a member of CJ Entus I'll base my assumption on IdrA's word and the reason he's going is because he's a member of CJ Entus. He gets paid based of the fact he plays for the team. The money is a bonus.


And you do believe that CJ Entus would pay his travel to Germany if ESL doesn't pay his prize money?
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 09:50:41
August 16 2010 09:45 GMT
#31
Only ESL's people in charge can clear this up, but you can't make these random accusations.

Are you guys IdrA's attorneys? Great job filling this thread with nonsense.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
August 16 2010 10:03 GMT
#32
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


I do not know of any outstanding prize money for IdrA, but I am not in the posision to know those details either (he has not won any money in the Intel Extreme Masters so far).

Having said that, if he comes over to me in Cologne and mentions any outstanding prize money with the ESL, then I will gladly help him out to the best of my ability.
www.intelextrememasters.com
taichou
Profile Joined February 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
August 16 2010 10:28 GMT
#33
Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15359 Posts
August 16 2010 10:34 GMT
#34
So much <3 Carmac. Looking forward to live matches this week!
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
August 16 2010 10:39 GMT
#35
This will be such an epic event. I won´t miss that for sure!
Btw: Carmac = awesome!
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
August 16 2010 10:48 GMT
#36
On August 16 2010 19:28 taichou wrote:
Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ?


;-)
www.intelextrememasters.com
taichou
Profile Joined February 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 10:52:17
August 16 2010 10:51 GMT
#37
On August 16 2010 19:48 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 19:28 taichou wrote:
Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ?


;-)


Just imagine talking as Uszaty, taking interview from Idra and saying that zerg is imba! man that would be funny:D
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 10:59:35
August 16 2010 10:56 GMT
#38
I LOVE YOU CARMAC, on a side note is the SC tourney going to be overlapping with the QL tourney? because if so that sucks but I guess cannot be avoided. However if the semis/finals for each tourney overlap I for one will be severely dissapointed.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 11:13:13
August 16 2010 11:03 GMT
#39
reading that OP made me almost speechles, can't even express how amazing this sounds

Carmac, i fucking love you, thank you

thank you <3

Edit: this deserves to be in the Spotlight(or better News) on Frontpage imo
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
August 16 2010 11:24 GMT
#40
Too bad they don't have CS1.6 there this time. Would love to see another awkward Get_Right interview.

Still, I can't fucking wait. 5 days of SC2 and QL. Aaaahh...
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