• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 10:51
CEST 16:51
KST 23:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers17Maestros of the Game 2 announced92026 GSL Tour plans announced15Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Maestros of the Game 2 announced 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists MaNa leaves Team Liquid Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers INu's Battles#14 <BO.9 2Matches> Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Data needed ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions Pros React To: ASL S21, Ro.16 Group C BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group C Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2 [ASL21] Ro16 Group D Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Diablo IV Nintendo Switch Thread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Strange computer issues (software) [G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2049 users

IEM5 and StarCraft II - the first chapter - Page 2

Forum Index > StarCraft 2 Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
prodiG
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2016 Posts
August 16 2010 05:18 GMT
#21
carmac for prez!

nice to see more ESR people here on teamliquid :D
liquid` fighting!
ESV Mapmaking Team || http://twitter.com/prodiGsc || Real talk, I don't have time to sugar-coat it for you sir
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
August 16 2010 08:18 GMT
#22
On August 16 2010 13:46 Hakker wrote:
This sounds awesome :D

I just have one question, im not too sure how these things work but will the event in NYC be open to spectators? I live literally 30-45 minutes outside nyc and would love to get the chance to see this.


You'll be able to spectate without a problem! We also reward people who travel the longest distance in order to spectate our events - show up, show us your ticket proving the distance traveled and if you're in the top 3, you get a prize. You're not that far off, but who knows...? ;-)
www.intelextrememasters.com
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
August 16 2010 08:30 GMT
#23
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
August 16 2010 08:31 GMT
#24
I'm very much looking forward to this event.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
GhoSt[shield]
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2131 Posts
August 16 2010 08:41 GMT
#25
Thanks for the taking the time to put all of this together! The thread is a great intro to all that is IEM, and I look orward to watching this even when it begins.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 16 2010 08:42 GMT
#26
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.
theonlyking
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany18 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 09:00:04
August 16 2010 08:58 GMT
#27
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
August 16 2010 09:04 GMT
#28
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.


I said that it's an issue Carmac should look into, which does not imply that they are in the wrong. I say this because it is an accusation IdrA has made against the ESL establishment and has already gathered strong "crowd momentum" within the TL community as a strike against ESL's reputation. Consequently, it needs to be addressed if the ESL is to preserve its credibility with many people here, which I'm sure they desire since TL is, after all, the biggest community for professional SC/SC 2.

Also, it's not like unpaid winnings are that rare in eSports. Last I checked, the ESWC has still yet to pay Ted for performances over a year ago.
Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
August 16 2010 09:06 GMT
#29
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.

Considering he's a member of CJ Entus I'll base my assumption on IdrA's word and the reason he's going is because he's a member of CJ Entus. He gets paid based of the fact he plays for the team. The money is a bonus.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
theonlyking
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany18 Posts
August 16 2010 09:13 GMT
#30
On August 16 2010 18:06 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:58 theonlyking wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


and you base your assumption on the statement of ONE player?
Wouldn't it be kinda illogical by Idra to participate in the Event in Cologne if the ESL never paid his prize money?
It may take some time for the ESL to pay (up to one year afaik) but they do at least pay, otherwise no one would participate in their tournaments, especially not on such a global scale with all the traveling expenses involved.

Considering he's a member of CJ Entus I'll base my assumption on IdrA's word and the reason he's going is because he's a member of CJ Entus. He gets paid based of the fact he plays for the team. The money is a bonus.


And you do believe that CJ Entus would pay his travel to Germany if ESL doesn't pay his prize money?
arctics86
Profile Joined December 2008
Germany797 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 09:50:41
August 16 2010 09:45 GMT
#31
Only ESL's people in charge can clear this up, but you can't make these random accusations.

Are you guys IdrA's attorneys? Great job filling this thread with nonsense.
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
August 16 2010 10:03 GMT
#32
On August 16 2010 17:42 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 17:30 arctics86 wrote:
On August 16 2010 10:35 G3nXsiS wrote:
Honestly, until ESL pays Idra, I think people shout boycott ESL tournaments. If theres 1 thing I cannot stand its the fact that organizations don't pay out the prize money to the players. You might not personally have anything to do with this but ESL should not have any tournaments if they are having financial issues and cannot pay out prize money to the players.

These players live on this money, if you cheat them they have nowhere to go and I think ESL knows that best.


Maybe people don't boycott this because it's just not true?


According to IdrA, he has not been paid for past ESL victories.

Carmac, as representative of the IEM and ESL, should probably look into this in order to maintain the reputation of the establishment he represents.

Whether to ban IdrA or not is another topic altogether. Tournament organizers obviously have the right to exclude anyone they please.


I do not know of any outstanding prize money for IdrA, but I am not in the posision to know those details either (he has not won any money in the Intel Extreme Masters so far).

Having said that, if he comes over to me in Cologne and mentions any outstanding prize money with the ESL, then I will gladly help him out to the best of my ability.
www.intelextrememasters.com
taichou
Profile Joined February 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
August 16 2010 10:28 GMT
#33
Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
August 16 2010 10:34 GMT
#34
So much <3 Carmac. Looking forward to live matches this week!
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Teeny
Profile Joined March 2010
Austria885 Posts
August 16 2010 10:39 GMT
#35
This will be such an epic event. I won´t miss that for sure!
Btw: Carmac = awesome!
Carmac
Profile Joined August 2007
Poland375 Posts
August 16 2010 10:48 GMT
#36
On August 16 2010 19:28 taichou wrote:
Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ?


;-)
www.intelextrememasters.com
taichou
Profile Joined February 2010
Lithuania108 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 10:52:17
August 16 2010 10:51 GMT
#37
On August 16 2010 19:48 Carmac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2010 19:28 taichou wrote:
Carmac u'r going to make fun of players again?:}} with some epic video interviews... ?


;-)


Just imagine talking as Uszaty, taking interview from Idra and saying that zerg is imba! man that would be funny:D
bmml
Profile Joined December 2009
United Kingdom962 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 10:59:35
August 16 2010 10:56 GMT
#38
I LOVE YOU CARMAC, on a side note is the SC tourney going to be overlapping with the QL tourney? because if so that sucks but I guess cannot be avoided. However if the semis/finals for each tourney overlap I for one will be severely dissapointed.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-16 11:13:13
August 16 2010 11:03 GMT
#39
reading that OP made me almost speechles, can't even express how amazing this sounds

Carmac, i fucking love you, thank you

thank you <3

Edit: this deserves to be in the Spotlight(or better News) on Frontpage imo
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
uNiGNoRe
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Germany1115 Posts
August 16 2010 11:24 GMT
#40
Too bad they don't have CS1.6 there this time. Would love to see another awkward Get_Right interview.

Still, I can't fucking wait. 5 days of SC2 and QL. Aaaahh...
Prev 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
INu's Battles
11:00
INu's Battles#14
ByuN vs RogueLIVE!
IntoTheiNu 841
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 285
Railgan 99
herO (SOOP) 26
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18519
EffOrt 1428
Soma 1033
Stork 387
Snow 371
ggaemo 363
Soulkey 152
firebathero 104
hero 98
Dewaltoss 92
[ Show more ]
Pusan 75
Hyun 67
JYJ 53
Sea.KH 52
Barracks 52
sSak 41
soO 39
ToSsGirL 31
Sexy 29
Free 24
scan(afreeca) 22
Rock 21
Terrorterran 18
Shine 16
Movie 11
GoRush 11
Sacsri 6
Dota 2
Gorgc5745
qojqva1631
Counter-Strike
byalli1133
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King59
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr42
Other Games
singsing1894
B2W.Neo1119
DeMusliM418
crisheroes366
Lowko320
Sick268
QueenE164
ArmadaUGS105
RotterdaM79
KnowMe37
NightEnD4
Organizations
Dota 2
PGL Dota 2 - Main Stream15591
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 91
• poizon28 30
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• FirePhoenix1
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2240
• Jankos1520
Other Games
• WagamamaTV288
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
2h 9m
Big Brain Bouts
2h 9m
PiG vs DeMusliM
Reynor vs Bunny
Replay Cast
9h 9m
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
20h 9m
Classic vs SHIN
MaxPax vs Percival
herO vs Clem
ByuN vs Rogue
Ladder Legends
1d
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d
BSL
1d 4h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
1d 19h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 20h
Ladder Legends
2 days
[ Show More ]
BSL
2 days
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Soma vs hero
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
3 days
Leta vs YSC
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Escore
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-22
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
Escore Tournament S2: W4
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W5
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.