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Series is over. All Cups done
Yes indeed! The German ESL Pro Series is about to start and we will see epic epic matches! Although it is an national Cup, there are some foreigners heading to the EPS Germany. (You are allowed to participate, if your place of residence (in law) is in germany.) Already qualified are:
Socke (P), Hasuobs (P), TLO (T/Z), Demuslim (T), Insolence (P), DarK.FoRcE (Z), Inuh (T), Andead (T), GoOdy (T), Xlord (P), Rine (P), Cloud (T), OgerTob (P), RoC (T), Eloids (T), Naniwa (P) (in that order of qualification)
The first three qualified in an invite tournament (would be Cup #0), there were seven Qualification Tournaments open to anybody who wanted to take the chance!
All Qualification Cups were covered by ESL-Radio!
http://esl-radio.de/
ESL Radio Stream
I added a poll to my page! Click on the pagelink and scroll to the footer!
Brackets of the last chance tourney
German Source for the Qualification Cups
My site for more announcements
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maybe, but this is the coverage for the qualification. If OP of the other topic wants to edit his thread everyday like i do, feel free to close and delete this thread.
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If first three qualified through invite how did the last two get in?
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Thx, changed the first post
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On July 30 2010 23:48 Forsti.henning wrote:maybe, but this is the coverage for the qualification. If OP of the other topic wants to edit his thread everyday like i do, feel free to close and delete this thread.
nah i don't  go on like this!
p.s.: Gogo @ any zerg out there! :o
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Thanks for streaming this! Hoping for some good games. 
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... you have moderator channel only.... so ill say it here, fix your mic sound... it goes down to almost muted to so loud it almost explode my speaker... its unwatchable..
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todays stream very laggy for me 
edit: nevermind, better now
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DarK.FoRcE winning after losing spawning pool so fast :D
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Both streams were kinda unwatchable for me. Lagging like hell, sound issues.... gonna go back to playing now. Pity, would've been interesting I guess.
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Stream seems to be ok now
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WOW HIS MIC GOES LOUD!
My ears just about exploded holy crap :D
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agreed about the mic!
60 posts here we come.
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hope no more zvz matchups ;p great stream
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Who played right now..i mean the TvP on ?LostTemple?
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that would've been rine (P) vs. iLuvatar (T)
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DarK.FoRcE qualifies, nice!
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who is co casting with forsti?
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What is Frosti's number so I can add him to friends?
Name is HenningK but dont know number :<
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judgeing by what they re talking about i assume the co caster is KnowMe
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What a funny match, srsly. Draw? 
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These prolonged matches are boring.
Shows that both players kinda suck.
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lol seems like first draw, inuh vs mardow
the one who attacks will lose it.
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and he kills his own units... supply calldown ftw
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Just launched the stream, wtf happened in the game o,o
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On July 31 2010 05:58 HubertFelix wrote:
Just launched the stream, wtf happened in the game o,o
well terran got behind in midgame but stayed alive playing defensive.
zerg could not kill him having a huge lead, so terran comes back, but terran, finally attacking, losing all ground units, now ultralist with mass healing slowly entering the last base...
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uhh this game = wtf. Is terran going to win cuz the zerg has no way of killing the floating buildings?
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Lmfao this is too funny.
One mutalisk vs 4-5 ravens.
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zerg has 1 mutalisk but terran has a handful of ravens w/ hunter seeker missile
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On July 31 2010 06:05 VabuDeltaKaiser wrote:
well terran got behind in midgame but stayed alive playing defensive.
zerg could not kill him having a huge lead, so terran comes back, but terran, finally attacking, losing all ground units, now ultralist with mass healing slowly entering the last base...
thank you
Hero muta after hero ultralisk.. this is crazy
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now we see a minigame, 1 mutalisk vs hunter missile energy
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oh my god he lets him build a viking x-d
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haha.. this game is ridiculous!
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terrible by both tbh
entertaining ending though
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This is ridiculous. Gotta heal that one mutalisk lmfao.
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just really awefull gaming by both 
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this is hilarious and sad at the same time D;
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are they agreeing to a draw?
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Should chat and distract the other player.
Then throw down some missiles.
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On July 31 2010 06:12 mtvacuum wrote:
are they agreeing to a draw?
Seems not. Zerg thinks he would win the fight. :D
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Seeker Missile vs Transfusion
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This was such a terrible game...a silver zerg could have won at one point...
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wtf is going on, why doesn't the terran leave, why haven't the refs called the match for zerg?
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lol the zerg wants no draw.. It's true he could've won this game multiple times before, but now that he's only got one mutalisk and inuh has his fleet of ravens and vikings, it really is a time to call a draw
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Zerg can easily win.
1. Attack with muta and if it takes damage go back and transfuse.
2. Go back to 1
3. Win
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yeah but he wont be able to attack with the muta because of:
1. viking range > muta range
2. seek missiles
i dont know why they are discussing about zerg win... it's clearly a draw
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Even if they don't draw, this is going to take forever. Good god this is ridiculous.
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Jaedong would have won with 1 mutalisk
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can terran try to snipe zerg buildings with autoturrets
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good admin would have decided draw 20-30 minutes ago....
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On July 31 2010 06:22 mtvacuum wrote:
can terran try to snipe zerg buildings with autoturrets
not against mass sunkens ...
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with that many queens with transfusions, there's no way the T can beat this, and now without the muta zerg can't do anything either, really don't see why they just won't call a draw :o
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Lifting buildings to fucking corners of the map should be restricted in tournaments like this.
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z is pathetic, "if t couldnt lift, you would lose, so it's my win" lol
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i think admin already told them they could call a regame but mardow does not accept a draw and wants inuh to leave...
maybe a visitor can crash the game to force regame
finally mardow calls it a draw.
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The zerg has played so incredibly bad he doesn't deserve a win
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As gay as lifting buildings is.
I'd do the same if I could.
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Well I think lifting and scattering to corners as T in tournies like this should be auto-loss.
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A DRAW!
Finally, that took forever.
The admins should have forced the draw a long time ago for the sake of the viewers.
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Finally zerg realised that its a draw.
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regame of 2 hour match
and they are both so equally bad it just can happen again because they cannot kill eachother xD
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Draw and if someone doesn't accept it just disqualify him .
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On July 31 2010 06:29 Numy wrote:
Well I think lifting and scattering to corners as T in tournies like this should be auto-loss.
A player who can't destroy those buildings doesn't deserve the win. Its the same like having a pylon on an island when there is no transportation capability and air units anymore.
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Though I play zerg, I do think lifting buildings is a perfectly valid thing to do. It's a game mechanic, and can be seen as a tiny perk that terrans just have.
I'd only see it as BM if it's a ladder game with the T having no units at all, and forcing the other player to chase his buildings down only to prolong the game or something.
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On July 31 2010 06:34 crashonly wrote:
Though I play zerg, I do think lifting buildings is a perfectly valid thing to do. It's a game mechanic, and can be seen as a tiny perk that terrans just have.
Its a game mechanic that was designed for rearranging bases, not for abusing stupid map design.
It drags the game ridiculously long and tournament rules or better map design should discourage this boring behavior.
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what the hell is mardow doing
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Throwing away his units for nothing?
On July 31 2010 06:47 YourMom wrote:
Its a game mechanic that was designed for rearranging bases, not for abusing stupid map design.
It drags the game ridiculously long and tournament rules or better map design should discourage this boring behavior.
It doesn't drag on the games if the players are smart enough to actually recognize what's possible and what isn't
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yeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!! congrats inuh! first no name player in the EPS!
plus, he's of korean origin afaik :D
(yes i watched all of the final games; what a series ... exhausting but fuuuuuun :D)
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On July 31 2010 06:54 crashonly wrote:Throwing away his units for nothing? Show nested quote +On July 31 2010 06:47 YourMom wrote:
Its a game mechanic that was designed for rearranging bases, not for abusing stupid map design.
It drags the game ridiculously long and tournament rules or better map design should discourage this boring behavior.
It doesn't drag on the game if the players are smart enough to actually recognize what's possible and what isn't
so I'm supposed to keep an air army against every terran player, no matter what he plays just in case he decides to be a dick and flies away with his base?
you really can't justify this tactic, you just can't. The game wasn't meant to played on draws. It's huge design flaw that is ignored because they just trust the players not to be huge morons that would do this shit.
There should be a simple fix, just set a timer on terran's buildings flying mode. Even if it takes 5 minutes for them to run out of fuel, it would still be enough.
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On July 31 2010 07:41 HolydaKing wrote:yeeeeeeeeeeees!!!!!!!!! congrats inuh! first no name player in the EPS! plus, he's of korean origin afaik :D (yes i watched all of the final games; what a series ... exhausting but fuuuuuun :D)
thx
and yes im korean :d but live in germany at the moment
sorry guys for the long first game but i told the admin and mardow we can end it in a draw but he didnt want to ...
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mardow should have just pushed him way earlier in game1. it was totally mardow's fault for not doing that, who can blame inuh for trying everything he can to stay in the game when the eps qualification is at stake. congrats to inuh for qualifying!
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yes i was the cocaster and it was my first cast in english. as it is only my 3rd language, im wondering if i should do it again?
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On July 31 2010 07:45 Kexx wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2010 06:54 crashonly wrote:Throwing away his units for nothing? On July 31 2010 06:47 YourMom wrote:
Its a game mechanic that was designed for rearranging bases, not for abusing stupid map design.
It drags the game ridiculously long and tournament rules or better map design should discourage this boring behavior.
It doesn't drag on the game if the players are smart enough to actually recognize what's possible and what isn't so I'm supposed to keep an air army against every terran player, no matter what he plays just in case he decides to be a dick and flies away with his base? you really can't justify this tactic, you just can't. The game wasn't meant to played on draws. It's huge design flaw that is ignored because they just trust the players not to be huge morons that would do this shit. There should be a simple fix, just set a timer on terran's buildings flying mode. Even if it takes 5 minutes for them to run out of fuel, it would still be enough.
You do know though, that this was already possible in broodwar right?
I dont see any difference to other things that can happen, such as:
Zerg only has spine crawlers left, but i only have marines - is it imba that i cant kill him?
Protoss has only cannons left, but I only have a few zerglings - is it imba that i cant kill him?
Mardow didnt manage to kill inuh with half the minerals on the map - and then inuh even looked rly much like the winner.
Then he was mannered enough to push out and try to end it, instead of keeping his 100% draw (mardow had NO chance to kill his base with all the units in it), knowing that even if his push fails he can probably still have a draw by lifting up his buildings - this game did not end in a draw because inuh did that in the end, mardow was not the "winner" either.
Congratulations to my clanmate Inuh, awesome games, he deserved it.
Im sure mardow will qualify in one of the other cups.
€: I feel sorry for you mardow, but i think everybody would have done the same as inuh, just gotta use what the game offers you.
I thought btw. that it was stupid to use HSM on the muta, would have just used a point defense drone to be safe.
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On July 31 2010 08:03 tOOkOmA4U wrote:
mardow should have just pushed him way earlier in game1. it was totally mardow's fault for not doing that, who can blame inuh for trying everything he can to stay in the game when the eps qualification is at stake. congrats to inuh for qualifying!
It was hard to see for me where I could attack. I always tried to scout with overlords and everything seemed defended. I didnt want to take the risk tbh :/
Didnt really know what to do at that point D: Need to improve ~~
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you really deserve a manner avard for the "gg" in the last game, your patience overall and the "need to improve"
chapeau
in my opinion you shouldve went for 50 or even 500 more overlords and drop your whole army on that tank-marine-ball
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yeah i agree it was good manner to gg in the last game, and as mentioned by cola.bier, there's a very high chance u will still qualify for eps. it was definately a good series imo, inuh going banshees in the last game was pretty ballsy and it was unexpected enough to give him the win.
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Forsti you spelled Inuhs name wrong 8[
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The by far most annoying thing in these games was the permanent chatting of the spectators. Especially Imustbeemo and Cola^^
That's very distracting when watching a game
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for me its pretty clear that mardow will qualify in one of the next cups so no need to be bm now for him
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I dont know but i think the whole "EPS-Thing" looks like a cheap noname Cup. I dont know there are so many things (Spectators, laggy Obs ...) wich just doesnt seem professional. I really cant take that serious.
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On July 31 2010 17:51 ibu wrote:
The by far most annoying thing in these games was the permanent chatting of the spectators. Especially Imustbeemo and Cola^^
That's very distracting when watching a game
haha lol, I thought Befaro was streaming with the others, he had us all ignored, but i guess on forstis stream you could see the chat ~~
Imustbeemo aka Rob ist just the biggest cry baby of all time "terra imba terra imba" etc., just cant read all that and not respond ^_^
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its on, german stream is up. i participate. i guess i wont stream, but i hope you enjoy the german stream!
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German streams for today's cup:
ESL Radio (Videostream): http://www.own3d.tv/livestream/45
ESL TV (Videostream ~): http://tv.esl.eu/de/esltv_stream/stream/55-flv-free
Mondi just beat KnowMe, commentators nearly went crazy about his play, but they aren't exactly knowledgeable. Anyways, here's hope he qualifies and continues his rule (or at least becomes a prolific international player [again] :> ).
edit: Noooo Mondi Thrown out of the tourney by Alternate's BrainBug.
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I'm watching the ESL Radio Stream.
They're more competent than the ESL TV guys and are streaming and commentating games contrary to them.
The ESL TV guys are only talking and not showing games for about 30 minutes now. :/
Btw: OgerTob for the win
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haha, the geist vs mardow match was so funny.. geist rallyed his nexus to his assimilator and didnt notice it.. when he gg'ed he had 25+ probes in 1 gas :D
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mardow now on the stream, gonna be a good game!
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Well played by mardow, hope he can win the next one too and enter the eps, really deserves it .
Hopefully the lag won't mess up the game.
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Bleh, bunker rush'd
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So did mardow make it? I can only hope :D
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sadly not.. he just lost the deciding match 2:1
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On August 03 2010 06:32 Enox wrote:sadly not.. he just lost the deciding match 2:1
OH really? Was hoping it was 1-1 now and he'd win the next one. Oh well hopefully next time mardow!
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yes, next chance for him tomorrow
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On August 03 2010 06:39 Enox wrote:
yes, next chance for him tomorrow
OH thank god means he'll qualify tomorrow :D.
Mardow fighting!
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congrats goody, rly nice.
Next time im gonna get ya :D
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i updated the topic with the date for the 4th qualifier. If you want to see a english stream tomorrow post HERE!!!
//if i see 10 pages here tomorrow, i'll stream for you.
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I hope there is a stream tomorrow gives me something to watch :D
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On August 03 2010 10:09 blade55555 wrote:
I hope there is a stream tomorrow gives me something to watch :D
You would hope for something.
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10 hours to go. come on guys. if its that uninteresting, i have no intention to cast 5 hours...
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no and yes: only for people living in germany. demuslim moved to germany for that cup
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please stream this!!!!!!!!!! Should be epic
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is forsti even allowed to stream? i though this ESL stuff may only be streamed by esl tv and esl radio
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i can do english streams anytime ~.~
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Even after watching the ESl Radio Stream yesterday, i would really appreciate an english casted stream by Forsti.
But i think its not only the german starcraft fans that should beg you for casting in english.
Gogo!
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german stream with befaro starts now. i gonna stream with socke later.
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Oh lol ... Spine Crawler rush xD
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Just ignore this post fellas
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Mardow out again in round 3
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On August 04 2010 03:38 Enox wrote:Mardow out again in round 3
Oh really? that makes me a very sad panda bear.
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Mondragon overcoming the bane of his performance of yesterday. NarutO's game coming up.
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Can't figure out why this zerg only went roaches against toss... Its a no brainer your going to lose doing that. Stalkers/colossi just rolls it easy peasy. Oh well hope some good zergs come on soon :D
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they are casting without delay. pretty amateurish for the ESL Pro Seriesqualifier...
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On August 04 2010 05:03 spoinka wrote:
they are casting without delay. pretty amateurish for the ESL Pro Seriesqualifier...
As far as I know there isn't anybody around that casts with a delay. It's either live with no delay or cast from replays, maybe that is what you would like?
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there's a 40 second delay
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So will there be a qualifier every day with the 8'th being the last day? If so mardow shall qualify!
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On August 04 2010 05:28 blade55555 wrote:
So will there be a qualifier every day with the 8'th being the last day? If so mardow shall qualify!
Tomorrow there will be no tourney, and the last tourney will see only the winner qualifying; also, I think you need to have played in some or all of the other cups, to be allowed to play in the last cup (the so called "Last Chance Cup").
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You are a good caster Forsti! I enjoy watching. Gogogogo
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what hapepned to mondragon? I can't get over this crappy music... Games are sorta nice.
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nice qualification series, keep up the good work and support our local e-sport!
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On August 04 2010 06:22 ffz wrote:
what hapepned to mondragon? I can't get over this crappy music... Games are sorta nice.
Mondragon was defeated by OgerEli, who just lost to XlorD. Hopefully he'll make it eventually.
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On August 04 2010 06:29 a11 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2010 06:22 ffz wrote:
what hapepned to mondragon? I can't get over this crappy music... Games are sorta nice. Mondragon was defeated by OgerEli, who just lost to XlorD. Hopefully he'll make it eventually.
definitely. hope for at least one more zerg for the league.
it is quite toss/terran heavy.
edit: or maybe 5 more zergs??
e2: i want mondi so much to be in that, same as ogerEli, man hope s still there.
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Big thanks to you Forsti for your great contribution. With your cast the audience is more international, it would be a shame if such a big tournament goes comepletely unnoticed.
About today's qualifier: again the zergs were not able to reach the top 2 spots. Hopefully they will have a good outbreak for the last 5 spots. There are so many talented and good zergs like Mondragon, Mardow, Brainbug or OgerEli.
They MUST qualify, otherwise this ESL Season will be very boring for the audience (too much TvT and PvP) so it would be a very bad start for SC 2 in the ESL Pro Series.
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hopefully I can make it today 8]
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Next cup today. Would be much appreciated if you did stream again, today, Forsti, because there is quite some dislike for today's "official" commentating team.
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where/who are those official commentators? looks like esl tv wont stream at all today
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Yes, it's only ESL-Radio today. DerFrodo and Santo are casting there.
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Naniwa and Cloud are playing today. If they qualify for the EPS they will move to germany.
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Go go naniwa :D make us IRC'ers proud
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it's a shame that some german players are insulting ClouD and Naniwa for participating... you suck, you're lame, your're italian... good to know everybody's welcome!
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fuck those dirty foreigners, seriously!
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NaNiwa brutally losing the early game, only reason he didn't lose is the Zerg stockpiled 1.2k minerals.
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On August 06 2010 03:13 arctics86 wrote:
it's a shame that some german players are insulting ClouD and Naniwa for participating... you suck, you're lame, your're italian... good to know everybody's welcome!
wow, that's just terrible :/
Go Cloud, go naniwa!
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On August 06 2010 02:49 BobbYt3hBobbY wrote:
Naniwa and Cloud are playing today. If they qualify for the EPS they will move to germany.
wow, is the EPS really that lucrative that its worth relocating for? if you win the season maybe, but other than that i doubt it.
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On August 06 2010 03:46 Enox wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 02:49 BobbYt3hBobbY wrote:
Naniwa and Cloud are playing today. If they qualify for the EPS they will move to germany. wow, is the EPS really that lucrative that its worth relocating for? if you win the season maybe, but other than that i doubt it.
Germany is the european Korea, esports wise.
Or at least it will be in the future.
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On August 06 2010 04:10 s.a.y wrote:Show nested quote +On August 06 2010 03:46 Enox wrote:On August 06 2010 02:49 BobbYt3hBobbY wrote:
Naniwa and Cloud are playing today. If they qualify for the EPS they will move to germany. wow, is the EPS really that lucrative that its worth relocating for? if you win the season maybe, but other than that i doubt it. Germany is the european Korea, esports wise. Or at least it will be in the future.
the very very small brother of korea considering esports.
i highly doubt sallary of clan and prize money make up for a living.
maybe if your clan pays your flats rent, and pays for living, the prize moneys are so low, you still earn nearly nothing...
but lets see, hope for good, maybe cloud our naniwa will enlighten us.
OH, and of course people flaming them are sore losers, ignore them. people you dont crush on their beloved games use to be very nice here.
UPDATE: seems like MYM will set up a EPS house in germany so members will be able to play in the german eps with very good conditions, nearly like korean pro houses. just a bit smaller. european size like you know.. less crowd
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Ah Mardow my poor mardow better do it next one if there is one
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On August 06 2010 05:54 Beyonder wrote:Who is Arak?
can you get this to upcoming events, since this is really high skill everybody tries the best. remarkable gaming is something capable of beeing forced into a soup of tastefull enjoyment.
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ogertop is toss. i gonna die.
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qualified so far: 6 toss , 6 terrans , 1 zerg
says it all ....
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Ticon_small.png) TheLittleOne
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Picon_small.png) HausObs
Socke
iNSoLeNCE
DeMusliM
inuh
![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/images/Zicon_small.png) DarK.FoRcE
GoOdy
And3ad
rine
XlorD
ClouD
ogertop
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Its OgerTob not Ogertop. Ridiculous race distribution so far...
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pm me, i will cast with befaro tomorrow, so you can do an english cast i guess.
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the german broodwar king is out again. damn, he won't make it i guess. shame, we really need more zergs :x
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mardow only has one last chance to qualify. Mardow fighting!
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btw, why the Hell are only german players allowed? There are some neighbours that speak german too, you know? >_>
If I'm interested in playing on some tourneys in the near future - is Region lock to germany only common? -,-
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Allegria I think it is because the ESL will have an EPS for swiss and austria as well.
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Yes, there is the so called Alpen-EPS for Austria and Switzerland.
For the German EPS, there were two further players qualifying today, Eloids (beat kAra 2-1 in the decisive bo3) and RoC. Both play Terran and are apparently former WC3 players, but not on a level that allowed them to play German WC3 EPS. On Monday, the last participant will be decided through the "last chance cup".
kAra beat NaNiwa today (NaNiwa: I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU CHEESED ME), yet none of them made it, so the last chance cup will likely come down to a showdown between both of them. As far as the Zergs are concerned, things are looking grim. Mardow showed abysmal performance today, again not reaching round 4 (like in the last two cups). Seems like he is heavily on tilt or something, I don't know. Mondragon and BrainBug lost to third-row Terrans, seppL was defeated by GrunZ, a new Zerg hope emerging from the readmore.de forums. GrunZ lost the next round to RoC though, when the Nydus entrance in his base was scouted a few seconds too early, allowing his opponent to find and shoot down the emerging worm.
That's pretty much it. Now we've got eight Terrans, six Protoss and one Zerg in the EPS. Have fun everyone, watching Proleague tomorrow, that's the pinnacle of eSports right there.
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I will give my best on monday, watch out naniwa and mardow !
PS: dont forget that TLO also plays zerg, probably better than any other german does.
I also had the pleasure of watching Socke play zerg yesterday, he is also quite good with 'em.
I dont think this statistics says anything about the balance, i think there just are not that many goody players that picked zerg for their race in germany.
just look at guys like Sen, IdrA etc. ... or just TLO and dark.force.
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its sad the we only have one and a half zerg
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Last one starting soon. Only one more spot, god i wish another Zerg can qualify. But i highly doubt it, given there are still many good terrans like NarutO and Miou, and, of course Naniwa who is favoured to win this.
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On August 07 2010 03:49 Allegria wrote:
btw, why the Hell are only german players allowed? There are some neighbours that speak german too, you know? >_>
If I'm interested in playing on some tourneys in the near future - is Region lock to germany only common? -,-
EPS Germany is for Germany
EPS Alpen is for Alpen
EPS UK is for UK
etc
Our league structure is identical to real sports, with national sections in most (European) countries so far that cater to players and teams in their respective countries
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last cup running, good streams! good games soon.
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Sucks Mardow lost :/. Oh well next time Mardow next time!
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gg, poor naruto. should've done it another time, today was one of the hardest days.
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very exciting cup tonight. Great matches and a slightly drunk caster. <3
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lineup looks terrific, gonne be pretty darn close
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cups done. thank you for watching!
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EPT
