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Razer King of the Beta by Day[9] - Page 54

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Straife
Profile Joined September 2009
United States36 Posts
July 20 2010 16:58 GMT
#1061
I don't understand why it seems that half the posts in this thread have nothing to do with the matches in the post's tournament.

O.o Its not fun trying to sift through all the pages and see that most of the pages aren't about the King of the Beta.

Can't wait to watch the casts on my birthday though!
Don't get lost!
Mr.E
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States434 Posts
July 20 2010 17:01 GMT
#1062
On July 21 2010 00:57 Geo.Rion wrote:
did all you guys miss Idra's changeling which scouted the first 2 colossi?
It's not Idra's fault that 4 Colossi totally can turn the tides and you have them out that quickly from 2 chronboosted robos. He had little time to react. He could have assumed Colossi, surely, and could have menaged that battle better, but it's not like he played blindly w/out scouting, Tester prepared for that timing attack well.


Uhh.. Yea when your opponent hard counters your army and you don't respond it's your fault.

You're implying imbalance is the issue I guess... either way.
Looking for top-tier practice partners, especially Z; PM me
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
July 20 2010 17:05 GMT
#1063
On July 21 2010 01:53 avilo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 01:19 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
On July 21 2010 00:48 DC Elite wrote:
On July 21 2010 00:34 Lylat wrote:
On July 21 2010 00:29 DC Elite wrote:
There are some good games, but these invitationals for beta 'king' are so stupid since people like Masq has been beating the crap out of all these players lately but didnt get an invite to be 'king'.

LOL, that doesn't mean anything, did your "Masq" achieve anything in open tournaments like Go4SC2 or Zotac ?
Ladder games don't mean sh*t


http://www.youtube.com/user/HDstarcraft

Hes beating white-ra and idra, def should be considered for an invitational. I odnt know if he has won any tourny's, probably not invitationals since all those use the same old tired players, but im excited to see some new faces stick it to the older dusty 'pros'.

Ladder games don't mean anything. If you're going to watch videos like that, do it purely for entertainment.


IF that's the case then past SC1 results should not mean anything in terms of SC2 skill and free invites to tourneys. It's a different game.


That is not the case since invitationals aren't only based on skill. If there were no other factors or limitations there wouldn't make much sense to have an invite tournament.
Xani
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada9 Posts
July 20 2010 17:07 GMT
#1064
I can't wait to see TLO vs whitera again. I love QXC but it looked like he got outclassed badly by whitera last night.

I loved seeing TLO 4-0 Whitera on husky's chan vods. Amazing counters to the voidray cheese whitera favors
tipakee
Profile Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 17:08:03
July 20 2010 17:07 GMT
#1065
So..... since Day[9] keeps telling us the loser picks the map and both players are allowed to download one map, any player would become my new fav if they forced a game on Shrinkage.
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 17:11:03
July 20 2010 17:10 GMT
#1066
I just wanted to add that especially in Game 2 of idrA vs Tester, it became clear why Day might need a co-caster. That or he needs to increase his words per minute a little bit. He kinda fell behind towards the end and had to queue things. Once was while talking about some Robo Facilities then had to cut immediately to new action. Then later he was in the midst of talking about the battle and missed the GG by a couple seconds because he had to finish this sentence.

It's not terrible. It's just a minor nitpick taken hopefully in the spirit of a loyal viewer who would love to see Day be even better than he is now. I just feel that having another person to take some of the pressure off of him and catch some of the big things he can't notice immediately would be a huge help.

Also, I think it would help because it would obscure some of his bouncing around and "boxing" of units that he does during the cast. It would also give him perhaps a more stable camera so that he can bounce around during the game without making viewers noxious.

EDIT: Damn, meant to post this in the D9 thread on SC2 general, not the tournament thread. My bad.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
TBO
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany1350 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 17:10:45
July 20 2010 17:10 GMT
#1067
On July 21 2010 02:07 tipakee wrote:
So..... since Day[9] keeps telling us the loser picks the map and both players are allowed to download one map, any player would become my new fav if they forced a game on Shrinkage.


downvote not download
tipakee
Profile Joined April 2010
United States127 Posts
July 20 2010 17:12 GMT
#1068
On July 21 2010 02:10 TBO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 02:07 tipakee wrote:
So..... since Day[9] keeps telling us the loser picks the map and both players are allowed to download one map, any player would become my new fav if they forced a game on Shrinkage.


downvote not download



weak, i guess i miss-heard day like 5 times last night
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
July 20 2010 17:23 GMT
#1069
aww download would be awesome
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Ricjames
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Czech Republic1047 Posts
July 20 2010 17:29 GMT
#1070
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ohhh i laughed so hard seeing Tester go the good old 2 cybernetics core build and then chronoboosting the wrong one...gold
Brood War is the best RTS that has ever been created.
aztrorisk
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States896 Posts
July 20 2010 17:33 GMT
#1071
WTH, where is MASQ? Masq owned Indra 2 times and defeated WhiteRa. I think he deserves to be in this tourney. The only reason he isn't in most of the major tournaments is the fact that he didn't get invited.
A lock that opens to many keys is a bad lock. A key that opens many locks is a master key.
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
July 20 2010 17:35 GMT
#1072
Why don't SC2 players utilize drops the way Korean BW players do? Even at the higher levels, I see so many players leaving relatively defenseless mains or expansions unpunished by easy drops.

For instance, in tester vs idra game 2, tester had little to no D in his main. If idra had done a couple drops or a nydus worm, he would have done significant damage.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
July 20 2010 17:38 GMT
#1073
On July 21 2010 02:33 aztrorisk wrote:
WTH, where is MASQ? Masq owned Indra 2 times and defeated WhiteRa. I think he deserves to be in this tourney. The only reason he isn't in most of the major tournaments is the fact that he didn't get invited.

You don't get invited to high level tournaments just for winning a few ladder matches.
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dbizzle
Profile Joined May 2010
United States395 Posts
July 20 2010 17:39 GMT
#1074
JayDee I think on how small the maps are right now, it is very hard to utilize drops when armies can move back to their main base really fast. Also, on a map like scrap station I think it is pretty standard to have anti drop defense since the air distance is so short
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 20 2010 17:46 GMT
#1075
On July 21 2010 02:35 JayDee_ wrote:
Why don't SC2 players utilize drops the way Korean BW players do? Even at the higher levels, I see so many players leaving relatively defenseless mains or expansions unpunished by easy drops.

For instance, in tester vs idra game 2, tester had little to no D in his main. If idra had done a couple drops or a nydus worm, he would have done significant damage.

Noo, tons of people do drops. Watch more White-Ra games on sc2win.com. Or watch any Maka game.

Idra is not representative of sc2 players. He's just a single scrub with a bizarre play-style. Idra never does drops -- he just macros a ball and loses.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
TheOGBlitzKrieg
Profile Joined June 2010
United States346 Posts
July 20 2010 17:48 GMT
#1076
idra did scout the collosi and dual robo facility BUT, not sure if you guys failed to see that tester literally pushed out like immidiately after he killed the changeling... not sure on how you think you can build a counter to collosus in 30 - 45 seconds when your army is maxxed... his maxxed army wasn't a great composition imo why go mass hydra?? throw in some roach/infestor/muta anything...
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
July 20 2010 17:50 GMT
#1077
Phase 2 ladder data, retrieved from http://sc2.vacau.com/ and http://starcraftrankings.com/:
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Result tables after Day 2:
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The poll + Show Spoiler +
To add some hype, let's predict the winners of Day 3. In Group A, we have the Ukrainian derby:
Poll: Day 3: Dimaga vs White-rA

White-rA (P) (51)
 
74%

Dimaga (Z) (18)
 
26%

69 total votes

Your vote: Day 3: Dimaga vs White-rA

(Vote): Dimaga (Z)
(Vote): White-rA (P)


And in Group B - the macro war of the US ladder top:
Poll: Day 3: Idra vs Huk

Idra (Z) (45)
 
57%

Huk (P) (34)
 
43%

79 total votes

Your vote: Day 3: Idra vs Huk

(Vote): Idra (Z)
(Vote): Huk (P)

so far predicts IdrA vs HuK would be a closer match than White-Ra vs Dimaga.

If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
July 20 2010 17:50 GMT
#1078
On July 21 2010 02:48 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote:
idra did scout the collosi and dual robo facility BUT, not sure if you guys failed to see that tester literally pushed out like immidiately after he killed the changeling... not sure on how you think you can build a counter to collosus in 30 - 45 seconds when your army is maxxed... his maxxed army wasn't a great composition imo why go mass hydra?? throw in some roach/infestor/muta anything...

Yes, he scouted wayyyy late (Tester switched tech trees), then lost to the obvious unit everybody should have known was coming.
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
July 20 2010 17:57 GMT
#1079
On July 21 2010 02:46 kajeus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 02:35 JayDee_ wrote:
Why don't SC2 players utilize drops the way Korean BW players do? Even at the higher levels, I see so many players leaving relatively defenseless mains or expansions unpunished by easy drops.

For instance, in tester vs idra game 2, tester had little to no D in his main. If idra had done a couple drops or a nydus worm, he would have done significant damage.

Noo, tons of people do drops. Watch more White-Ra games on sc2win.com. Or watch any Maka game.

Idra is not representative of sc2 players. He's just a single scrub with a bizarre play-style. Idra never does drops -- he just macros a ball and loses.


If you want to argue a point at least get your facts straight. I've seen several matches were Idra has done drops. And I fail to see how a heavy macro style is bizarre.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
kajeus
Profile Joined May 2010
United States679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-20 18:00:07
July 20 2010 17:59 GMT
#1080
On July 21 2010 02:57 nihlon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 21 2010 02:46 kajeus wrote:
On July 21 2010 02:35 JayDee_ wrote:
Why don't SC2 players utilize drops the way Korean BW players do? Even at the higher levels, I see so many players leaving relatively defenseless mains or expansions unpunished by easy drops.

For instance, in tester vs idra game 2, tester had little to no D in his main. If idra had done a couple drops or a nydus worm, he would have done significant damage.

Noo, tons of people do drops. Watch more White-Ra games on sc2win.com. Or watch any Maka game.

Idra is not representative of sc2 players. He's just a single scrub with a bizarre play-style. Idra never does drops -- he just macros a ball and loses.


If you want to argue a point at least get your facts straight. I've seen several matches were Idra has done drops. And I fail to see how a heavy macro style is bizarre.

Could you link those games please? I don't remember Idra doing any drops ever. I'd be convinced by even just 2 replays.

His style is bizarre because he does the exact same thing every single tournament game. (FE into hydra/roach).
pro-MoMaN, pro-HuK, pro-Millenium
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