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On July 20 2010 12:49 charlesatan wrote:
P.S. Another key strategy of Tester was his fast Collosi. As Day[9] noted, Tester wasn't doing much with his double Robotics Bay when it just finished but later on, when he transitioned to Collosus, he started spamming his saved-up Chronoboosts so it was quick to move from 0 collosus to 2 to 4 (with upgrades).
Why not just build the colossus immediately? Serisouly, if any other player than Tester, everybody would have critized his lack of macro. Because this save of energy had no benefits. Why does he have 150 energy early game on his nexus. He should have CB his probes, but he actually decided to wait a few mins before chronoboosting the nexuses.
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can anyone tell me please how they will play it on the 23th of july when beta is down ?
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Gonna watch the reps now, cause last night it was a slideshow @ day9 :p
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Idra was the test , now buff zerg...
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Tester does a delayed 1-1-1 build for Protoss, with the saved up chrono and warp-in this gives him enormous flexibility. I definately like how he played this!
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On July 20 2010 23:13 NIIINO wrote:
can anyone tell me please how they will play it on the 23th of july when beta is down ?
The games have been played before. So he's commentating replays. afaik
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The quality of this whole event is very good, I'm really impressed by it :-D keep up the good work!
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To add some hype, let's predict the winners of Day 3. In Group A, we have the Ukrainian derby:
Poll: Day 3: Dimaga vs White-rAWhite-rA (P) (51) 74% Dimaga (Z) (18) 26% 69 total votes Your vote: Day 3: Dimaga vs White-rA (Vote): Dimaga (Z)
(Vote): White-rA (P)
And in Group B - the macro war of the US ladder top:
Poll: Day 3: Idra vs HukIdra (Z) (45) 57% Huk (P) (34) 43% 79 total votes Your vote: Day 3: Idra vs Huk (Vote): Idra (Z)
(Vote): Huk (P)
Phase 2 ladder data, retrieved from http://sc2.vacau.com/ and http://starcraftrankings.com/:
+ Show Spoiler +
Result tables after Day 2:
+ Show Spoiler +
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The first Idra vs Tester game was really great, i auctally thought Tester's going to go for some kind of weird air build when he misplaced that second cybernetics core haha  .
I know this isn't really on topic, but has Idra ever raged against a Korean? It seems to me only does against foreigners.
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I wonder why Idra doesn't have broodlords for the end game. He's lost all kinds of battles with maxed out hydra/roach/lings by now.
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On July 21 2010 00:07 figq wrote:To add some hype, let's predict the winners of Day 3. In Group A, we have the Ukrainian derby: Poll: Day 3: Dimaga vs White-rAWhite-rA (P) (51) 74% Dimaga (Z) (18) 26% 69 total votes Your vote: Day 3: Dimaga vs White-rA (Vote): Dimaga (Z)
(Vote): White-rA (P)
And in Group B - the macro war of the US ladder top: Poll: Day 3: Idra vs HukIdra (Z) (45) 57% Huk (P) (34) 43% 79 total votes Your vote: Day 3: Idra vs Huk (Vote): Idra (Z)
(Vote): Huk (P)
According to upcoming events those games are completely wrong.
Best of 3
Huk vs Tester
Dimaga vs White-rA
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On July 21 2010 00:08 Andr3 wrote:The first Idra vs Tester game was really great, i auctally thought Tester's going to go for some kind of weird air build when he misplaced that second cybernetics core haha . I know this isn't really on topic, but has Idra ever raged against a Korean? It seems to me only does against foreigners.
Even he can't convince himself that he only lost to cheese against them.
Man, Idra got dismantled that second game. Superior economy, larger army, all wiped out by a great timing, unit mix, and usage of those units. Idra is excellent macro player but his weaker strategic skills will always hold him back against the best of the best who can match is macro and also outthink him.
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On July 21 2010 00:08 Andr3 wrote:The first Idra vs Tester game was really great, i auctally thought Tester's going to go for some kind of weird air build when he misplaced that second cybernetics core haha . I know this isn't really on topic, but has Idra ever raged against a Korean? It seems to me only does against foreigners.
Idra rages when he loses to people he thinks are not as good as him, and since he thinks koreans are the best he doesnt rage when he losses to them.
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On July 21 2010 00:12 RandomBS wrote:
According to upcoming events those games are completely wrong.
Best of 3
Huk vs Tester
Dimaga vs White-rA Seems the Upcoming events entry is wrong, as it says:
Day 3: Huk vs Tester, Dimaga vs White-rA
Day 4: Huk vs Tester, White-rA vs IntoTheRainbow
while the OP of this thread says:
On July 15 2010 06:15 Day[9] wrote:
Group Play Day 3 - July 20th 7PM PST
Group A: Dimaga vs White-rA
Group B: Idra vs Huk
Group Play Day 4 - July 21th 7PM PST
Group A: White-rA vs IntoTheRainbow
Group B: Huk vs Tester But thanks for noticing, hope someone corrects it.
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Yeah, Idra sucks. Seriously, what do you force with 200/200 hydras? Think about it!
(The answer is... the counter to hydras.)
And just so you guys know, hydras are GREAT against gateway units! Absolutely awesome. What they are not great against are the counters to hydras.
So, in general, it is a bad idea to let your opponent spend 5 minutes switching tech mid-game. This is the moral of the story.
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This isnt a critique, just a question:
In game 2, why didn't Idra attack once he hit 200 food? Was he wanting to build up larvae and money so he could do fast and massive reinforcements right after the first big battle? I think Tester was behind 50 food when Idra hit 196. Waiting seemed to just let Tester catch up in food AND get 9 range Colossi.
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On July 21 2010 00:14 jamesr12 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 21 2010 00:08 Andr3 wrote:The first Idra vs Tester game was really great, i auctally thought Tester's going to go for some kind of weird air build when he misplaced that second cybernetics core haha . I know this isn't really on topic, but has Idra ever raged against a Korean? It seems to me only does against foreigners. Idra rages when he loses to people he thinks are not as good as him, and since he thinks koreans are the best he doesnt rage when he losses to them.
And thats what is pathetic, he almost always has an excuse prepared when he loses to an "inferior" opponent.
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On July 21 2010 00:24 Smackzilla wrote:
This isnt a critique, just a question:
In game 2, why didn't Idra attack once he hit 200 food? Was he wanting to build up larvae and money so he could do fast and massive reinforcements right after the first big battle? I think Tester was behind 50 food when Idra hit 196. Waiting seemed to just let Tester catch up in food AND get 9 range Colossi.
How much scouting had Idra done? had he even seen the double robo bay, or did he know the size of Tester's army?
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There are some good games, but these invitationals for beta 'king' are so stupid since people like Masq has been beating the crap out of all these players lately but didnt get an invite to be 'king'.
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On July 21 2010 00:24 Smackzilla wrote:
This isnt a critique, just a question:
In game 2, why didn't Idra attack once he hit 200 food? Was he wanting to build up larvae and money so he could do fast and massive reinforcements right after the first big battle? I think Tester was behind 50 food when Idra hit 196. Waiting seemed to just let Tester catch up in food AND get 9 range Colossi.
Tester opened up the short path. Idra can't really attack through the short path because Force Fields would stop him, and if he went through the long way, he'd be countered by Tester's units through the short path.
Strategically Idra was bad. He had no broodlords and was maxed out but didn't do anything. He could've expanded, do a drop, build sunkens/evo chambers block to defend the short path, etc etc.
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