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update: Games ended, Vods should be up soon Replay pack is available to download
English vods: http://forsti-stream.de/topic/301
Greetings to everyone!
To start of your beta phase 2 experience, I am pleased to announce what I believe to be a very welcomed show-match!
On July 9th, TLO will play vs. White-Ra in a BO7 series.
The times are July 9th, 16:00 London time || 17:00 CET (Paris) II 18:00 UA (Athens) || 19:00 Moscow Time || 11:00am Eastern (USA) || 10:00am Central (USA) and 12:00 am Friday Night/Saturday Morning KST (I believe, if someone could double check the times for me it would be great [Using 19:00 Moscow]).
You can catch games live at www.white-ra.com. The video player, as always, will be embedded into the front page during the series.
The games will be cast in Russian, but I also pmed some English speaking casters to see if they would be interested in broadcasting the games. As soon as I get any info on that, I will update the OP. And as long as nothing weird happens to Bnet, the Bo7 should be played as scheduled on the US server unless EU servers go up.
Hope you enjoy the games and thanks for your time!
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Thank you for the info! Come on day9, do it!
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!!!!
This will be awesome.
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Awesome!!!
You have a typo in the link, it added a comma.
EDIT: Also, are there any more of this coming? Or is it just a "hey, let's do this" kind of stuff?
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thanks, will fix
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That's the stuff i have been waiting for. Watching TLO while at the same time writing down cool stuff to do as Protoss. Epic Win. Can't wait.
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Ye I actually got kinda excited about those games even though I work with white-ra, wanna wish both players luck, since both of them seem to be pretty cool. To me this is one of the most interesting player match-ups in SC2, big thanks to them for doing this!
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On July 09 2010 06:01 Tresh wrote: Awesome!!!
You have a typo in the link, it added a comma.
EDIT: Also, are there any more of this coming? Or is it just a "hey, let's do this" kind of stuff?
I am not exactly positive on this, but I think there will be more games, at least at white-ra.com the organizers been pretty busy (even with BW matches while beta was down ) Guess lets hope;)
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niceeeee so that means 100% working servers for eu 2 ?
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no, not yet, they are planning to play on US servers unless EU goes up
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what time make that i Eu and where can we watch it 10x
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you can watch it at www.white-ra.com or at http://ru.justin.tv/whitera/
Times are up in the OP, I believe 18:00 UA time is the Athens time zone.... That should be 17:00 Paris time, 16:00 London time... but again, it would be great if someone could double check for me.... in Bulgaria I think you are at UA/Athens time, so 18:00
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so, is this the 6-7 time they have met ?
will TLO finally have his revenge? or will his bane once again be victorious?
*epic choir"
hyped as always to see these two guys thanks for doing it
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Epic!
Did TLO actually win a single BO against White-Ra in any tournament/Showmatch/etc.?
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Did White-Ra actually lost a single BO against anyone in any tournament/Showmatch/etc.?
Except for machine.
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sweet I'll definitely get my ass up for this. I wonder when TLO is going to choose his race
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man i hear soem roomers about thath the beta is comming in eu next week ??? wtf ?????????
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I guess I need to get up early! Well worth it! :D
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On July 09 2010 07:14 naistrashno wrote: man i hear soem roomers about thath the beta is comming in eu next week ??? wtf ?????????
Oh my god !?1++11+1++?!?!?!??! oneoeneonefiveten!??!+11+11+
.. No.
It'll be up once they solve the problems with US servers.
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I am hype-ing so hard right now. These are my two favorite beta players. Who will I cheer for?!
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oh sweet.. is TLO playing terran exclusively now??
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Awesome. I hope Husky & HD do a commentate for this.
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Great match  Lets go Ra!
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Thank you a bunch for putting this on, expecisially with the beta only being partly on for one day. Mad respect for you and i hope we can get a decent English commentator.!
GO TLO....GO White-ra Don't know who i want haha!
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Glad to see this announcement, been hoping to see another BO with White-Ra vs TLO, I really love both players, and I can pick one to cheer at, but it would probably be TLO since he hasn't won any BO against White-ra, as far as my knowledge goes. I hope we can get a descent english commentator for the games Go White-Ra, Go TLO!
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On July 09 2010 08:23 gdroxor wrote: I am hype-ing so hard right now. These are my two favorite beta players. Who will I cheer for?!
Me too, but it might be nice for TLO to win one against Ra for once
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Yes! Very excited
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On July 09 2010 08:35 yellowmoe wrote: Awesome. I hope Husky & HD do a commentate for this. Totally agree on this! and WOW TLO and White Ra i cant wait to see it, i hope it becomes as epic as TLO vs Nazgul in the TLI.
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please update as soon as possible about english commenators
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On July 09 2010 08:35 yellowmoe wrote: Awesome. I hope Husky & HD do a commentate for this.
No thanks, get someone else, preferably Sean :d
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gah, 11am. Oh well. If these bums are going to watch soccer at work I sure as well won't miss a TLO white-ra showmatch.
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Ohman.. the match of the year perhaps. Have to cheer for Grandpa toss although I love creative TLO aswell =)
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Sean has been invited but we haven't answer from him yet, aswell GLHF.it are welcome ( Trooper look at PMs . I hope there will be enough slots to have at least 2 streams with english comments, 2 with russian comments and no lags same time
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also waiting for a response from Husky... though admittedly this is kind of a late notice
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Law of averages is totally on TLO's side. lol
TLO v. White-ra always makes for super entertaining matches.
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On July 09 2010 11:02 koppik wrote: Law of averages is totally on TLO's side. lol
TLO v. White-ra always makes for super entertaining matches.
Well first the law of averages only applies for random outcomes, and only then it applies with a laaarge number of occurrences .
Anyhoo, as much as I am a fan of TLO, it seems that given his commitments with school or w/e, he just can't get the same number of hours down in gaming as those like White-Ra or IdrA; while he's skilled enough to pull games off them, that gap just lets them pull ahead each time. Of course I don't know as a fact, that's just my guess :o
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Another amazing showmatch iokke, can't wait. Are you orginizing them? Anyways, I can't wait, this is really as good of a match you can get, the most creative player vs another creative possibly best protoss player in europe. HYPE!
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Thanks Skillz, but I am just the messenger;) Think Scratch, White-Ra & TLO are responsible for this one, and I'm guessing that Scratch/Ra are to blame for the previous games this week as well.
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I wonder if TLO will go Terran or Zerg. Hes not randoming anymore is he?
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On July 09 2010 14:42 Tachion wrote: I wonder if TLO will go Terran or Zerg. Hes not randoming anymore is he?
My money is on Terran vs. WhiteRa. But I could be completely wrong and TLO might pull some epic crazy never before thought of strategy and win with Zerg.
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I really hope we get a good caster with some knowledge and experience. So sick of husky and hd's unimaginative, repetitive commentary and overall lack of understanding of the game.
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Day9! step up! Commentate! 
At pie: Not cool dude, don't hate on them like that. They've done a shitload for the SC2 community. What exactly have you done?
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Day[9] said on his Tuesday daily that he would be out of town, so there's no dailies from him until next week.
So I assume that means he will not be able to cast this either, sadly.
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Thank for the info, it will be very interesting to watch
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Are all 7 games going to be played, If a winner is decided before 7 games?
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Still set to go even with Europe not ready yet?
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Jizz in my pants goodness! If I can't play the game, I guess I will watch people play it instead  Also, What would the lag be like if they both played on the US servers?
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omg chill,gretorp,hd or husky... anyone please step up! we need eng coverage
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A game this epic needs to be cast live in English! Hell, it should probably be cast in Korean and all other spoken languages also...
This will get me through another BETA-less day in the EU. Just give me 2 more epic matches like this and BETA on Monday.
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On July 09 2010 14:48 pieisamazing wrote: I really hope we get a good caster with some knowledge and experience. So sick of husky and hd's unimaginative, repetitive commentary and overall lack of understanding of the game.
Don't agree with you there. Intensity counts for a bunch. You will not get a huge eSport scene by only providing very deep, technical casts.
EDIT2: MakaPrime vs oGs????/Cool by Husky. How can you NOT like those last 2 games?
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Still haven't applies from english speaking casters Nobody want to see this SM in english?
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On July 09 2010 14:48 pieisamazing wrote: I really hope we get a good caster with some knowledge and experience. So sick of husky and hd's unimaginative, repetitive commentary and overall lack of understanding of the game.
You mean like your post?
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Awesome, but no english stream? :S
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Just so nobody turns up late, London isn't observing UTC/GMT, but GMT + 1.
So, this starts at 15:00 GMT/UTC.
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According to white-ra.com, white-ra will play as P (obviously) and the race of TLO is marked as a "?", so either they don't know what race he will be playing yet, or he does random
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On July 09 2010 07:10 Pebble wrote:Did White-Ra actually lost a single BO against anyone in any tournament/Showmatch/etc.? Except for machine.  he lost against me in a bo5 for razer domination at least
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Hi! I talked to TLO and RA yesterday about a spontaneous showmatch. Seems like it turned out to be this one after all. So i asked RA and TLO again if i may observe and cast. They both agree, so i will stream the showmatches for you and commentate the matches in my silly english as usual.
I will stream in 512x384 (4:3) with only 500kbps, so everybody can watch it without any lag. Basically i stream on low quality because i have a AMD X2 5400+. Keep in mind that streaming uses twice as much CPU as Starcraft2 itself!
I record my voice and i will create VoDs on HD quality afterwards, downloadable as podcasts. Hopefully you can enjoy my stream as much as some of you enjoyed it when i was the spectator of the World Cup.
check my site for the stream: http://forsti-stream.de/
yo! Henning
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Godlike Henning. Your accent makes it even more awesome! Thank you very much for doing this. 
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On July 09 2010 22:52 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: he lost against me in a bo5 for razer domination at least
Congratulations, he surely is a tough opponent. :p
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two excellent players, gl to both. look forward to reps/vods
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Yes! Henning, despite any issues you might have with English(accent, whatever) I loved your cast from the 17873(?).com tourney. It's pretty high quality entertainment, even when I watching at 5am in the morning.
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Thanks for casting this Henning! I don't mind silly english. To be in the SC community with so many euros you get used to silly english!
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can anyone get the forsti-stream up? i can't seem to even connect to the site.
edit:nvm, I can connect to the site but it is going incredibly slow.
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On July 09 2010 23:45 javy925 wrote: can anyone get the forsti-stream up? i can't seem to even connect to the site.
edit:nvm, I can connect to the site but it is going incredibly slow.
got the same issue, hopefully it will still work out in the end though : /
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ah, that's much quicker lol. navigating through his site was a very slow process for me because it took a long time to load. thanks
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Hmm, the Forsti.henning-stream keeps freezing for me after a few seconds. Anyone have an idea on how to fix this? Nevermind, I got it to work; simply patience
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On July 10 2010 00:11 Vlad. wrote: Hmm, the Forsti.henning-stream keeps freezing for me after a few seconds. Anyone have an idea on how to fix this? I have it too it's horrible
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On July 10 2010 00:11 Vlad. wrote: Hmm, the Forsti.henning-stream keeps freezing for me after a few seconds. Anyone have an idea on how to fix this?
It works fine for me. Maybe it is because the high viewer count. Keep updating and hopefully it will work in a while.
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On July 10 2010 00:14 xenobius1982 wrote: no english OMG
There is. Read the thread.
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is there no other streams than hennings one... i cant bear to hear him speak tho russian one is not bettter that guy is hilarious in the worst way...
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On July 10 2010 00:19 FromGorkyWithLove wrote: is there no other streams than hennings one... i cant bear to hear him speak tho russian one is not bettter that guy is hilarious in the worst way...
In english? No. But the ukranian stream is much higher quality than henning's.
Edit: (forgot link) http://ru.justin.tv/whitera/
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who's the commentator on the russian stream? is it white-ra himself?
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GO WHITE-RA AND MOTHERSHIP WOOOOOOOOOO
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White-ra with a mothership!
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wow clear victory for WhiteRa, very wp
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On July 10 2010 00:22 pred470r wrote: who's the commentator on the russian stream? is it white-ra himself?
some dude who has no clue whats going on and all he can do is unobjectivly comment on white-ra plays calling them all great... terrible
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Could someone tell this guy to disable "Reduce mouse lag". It should make the game more responsive.
I mean Forsti.henning's stream.
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On July 10 2010 00:26 FromGorkyWithLove wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 00:22 pred470r wrote: who's the commentator on the russian stream? is it white-ra himself? some dude who has no clue whats going on and all he can do is unobjectivly comment on white-ra plays calling them all great... terrible
LOL I feel the same even when I don't understand what he's saying
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sum up of the first game, anyone?
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i woke up early for this?
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On July 10 2010 00:19 FromGorkyWithLove wrote: is there no other streams than hennings one... i cant bear to hear him speak tho russian one is not bettter that guy is hilarious in the worst way...
What is wrong with Henning? Except the german accent, he speaks fine.
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Fönix? :D
Wtf was that a Druid in Bearform???
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Stream keeps freezing T_T
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lol, probes following each other for whitera
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crazy build? fast fleet beacon?
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wtf is whitera doing ? lot of mistakes !
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So sad he lost that Void Ray. We can't see his Mothership rush build now.
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fast mothership and mass fails :D
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White-ra mothership rush. Very interesting.
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On July 10 2010 00:32 nam nam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2010 00:19 FromGorkyWithLove wrote: is there no other streams than hennings one... i cant bear to hear him speak tho russian one is not bettter that guy is hilarious in the worst way... What is wrong with Henning? Except the german accent, he speaks fine.
maybe i am used to different level commentators like day9 and gretorp ... dislike the way hes voice and accent sounds
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man, whitera is such a baller. mothership rush !
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That was one weird game, no lie.
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Mothership rush?
I'm okay with Forsti's stream. I'm grateful to have someone do it in English.
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Russian stream if offline for game 2, should be back starting with three, you can use Henning's
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I'm going to be uploading these to YouTube later today :D
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On July 10 2010 00:29 PredY wrote: sum up of the first game, anyone?
-TLO fast expands, blocking ramp with CC and rax. White-ra decides to FE as well instead of lots of harass -White-ra goes for blink upgrade and quickly takes the gold expansion. -TLO goes for marine, marauder and tank build, getting stim/shield/siege upgrades quick. -White-Ra goes for high temps and drop -TLO expands to gold shortly after, getting lots of marines and marauders with a some tanks. He loses scv's because of the drops -some back and forth battles: marine/marauder/tanks vs high temp/zealots/stalkers -White-Ra goes for mothership and shortly after he pushes out with it, TLO gg's because he doesn't have a large enough army.
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On July 10 2010 00:29 PredY wrote: sum up of the first game, anyone?
+ Show Spoiler +TLO FE into bio + some sieges, whitera opens with blink stalkers and gets natural and gold up while TLO is still on two base. Whitera techs to storm and breaks TLO's bio while he is still on two bases.
edit: damn, beat
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HD you should totally commentate on these!
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On July 10 2010 00:42 LSGamer wrote: Any VoDs, im going to miss some games
Forsti Henning said he would upload HD vods afterwards. And if you read the thread you'd see HDstarcrafts post just above yours.
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Russian stream is back up
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TLO's zerg is so obnoxious.
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I smell another epic whitera disc
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The game was going to get really good soon too.
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On July 10 2010 00:50 Cofo wrote: TLO's zerg is so obnoxious.
TLOs zerg on oasis is obnoxious, because he essentially abuses the shitty map design
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DO you guys think it's advisable to still upload a game that ended in a dc?
That was probably shaping to be the best game of the lot
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one of the sc2 rules: white ra is gonna lose? disc is incoming.
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On July 10 2010 00:53 HDstarcraft wrote: DO you guys think it's advisable to still upload a game that ended in a dc?
only if it influenced the score
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TLO should get the win for this one.
EDIT: looks like he did, good.
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On July 10 2010 00:53 HDstarcraft wrote:DO you guys think it's advisable to still upload a game that ended in a dc? That was probably shaping to be the best game of the lot 
I think you should still upload it, was a decent amount of action in it.
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Oh whitera giving away the win :o thats cool.
And yeah HD, would be cool if you uploaded that one too, he played better in this then the first two games anyway.
Also, are you doing commentary, or just uploading them in HD quality?
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White-ra was that behind this game?? Seemed to me like he was fine. Guess not.
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On July 10 2010 00:53 HDstarcraft wrote:DO you guys think it's advisable to still upload a game that ended in a dc? That was probably shaping to be the best game of the lot 
Nah, it was not that special up to the DC. There already will be 7 games
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On July 10 2010 00:53 HDstarcraft wrote:DO you guys think it's advisable to still upload a game that ended in a dc? That was probably shaping to be the best game of the lot 
Since White-ra said TLO wins that match, you should upload it
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On July 10 2010 00:55 wintergt wrote: TLO should get the win for this one. Ra had about 25% more resources by end. Collosus was finishing, mutas were doing no damage, golden minerals wouldn't kick in immediately...pretty even at least, in my book.
Edit: Ra giving away the win...guess he cares about manners too :|
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On July 10 2010 00:56 Soulforged wrote:Ra had about 25% more resources by end. Collosus was finishing, mutas were doing no damage, golden minerals wouldn't kick in immediately...pretty even at least, in my book. Edit: Ra giving away the win...guess he cares about manners too :|
Colossus vs Mutalisks.....
TLO had most of the map control during the entire game.
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Yeah, I think TLO did have the advantage but I don't think it was big enough to give the win. We'll chalk this up to white-ra showing his class.
And btw, i think henning commentary is fine. I was watching him play yesterday as well, and although he's not my favorite (sorry! gretorp wins that) he's still pretty good.
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Yeah I also do not see any advantage for TLO. During his Zergling harass he didn't pump any Drones and actually had less than White Ra at that point, I think. And well the Muta harass did literally nothing. The gold expand had to prove itself useful at first... and white raw could've attacked the expansion without any danger.
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On July 10 2010 00:56 Soulforged wrote:Ra had about 25% more resources by end. Collosus was finishing, mutas were doing no damage, golden minerals wouldn't kick in immediately...pretty even at least, in my book. Edit: Ra giving away the win...guess he cares about manners too :|
I also think it was pretty even, but it's only a showmatch so there's nothing wrong with showing some manners in this case. Especially as Desert Oasis sucks ass anyway, so there's no point in playing it again 
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Damn both players are such baller, fast exp in gold mineral for TLO and fast Colossus for Whitera !
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Can really see the effects of the downtime on whitera, hes totally out of shape.
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Pretty much unwatchable for me right now
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Those lings were just, i don't even.....
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On July 10 2010 00:56 Wrist wrote: Oh whitera giving away the win :o thats cool.
And yeah HD, would be cool if you uploaded that one too, he played better in this then the first two games anyway.
Also, are you doing commentary, or just uploading them in HD quality?
With commentary
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+ Show Spoiler +Holy crap, TLO is up 3-1. I always love seeing him do well, but even if he wins this I won't be fully convinced that he's a better player than White-Ra.
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All the people who think zerglings are bad need to learn to play...
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WhiteRa is not looking too hot at all.
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On July 10 2010 01:06 LuigiNMario wrote:Those lings were just, i don't even..... 
Yeah, never would have guessed they kill collosus that fast.
Even after playing Terran as his main race, TLO is still awesome as zerg.
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On July 10 2010 01:07 Salteador Neo wrote: All the people who think zerglings are bad need to learn to play...
Don't think they are bad at all. Didn't know they were that good either though. But you're completely right, I need to learn how to play
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TLO is zerg now? not random anymore?
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LOL. "I guess TLO played a lot of games and WhiteRa...didn't" This is why henning's so great.
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I don't blame WhiteRa for losing. PvZ in Desert Oasis is Hell.
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I'm enjoying Forstis commentary.
Considering that he's casting in english so that more people can enjoy it, he's doing mighty fine imo.
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Did TLO saw that stargate?
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I think TLO saw the stargate 10x to the Xel'naga tower.
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Did TLO just do supply drop? What build is that?
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Ahh WhiteRa, you need to learn fazing.
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Go TLO you will win this show match :D
Edit: show match i mean
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TLO uses supply drop in builds a lot. I guess the extra 100 minerals instantly is better than 300 minerals over the next minute or so.
And why the hell does WhiteRa keep suiciding void rays?
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On July 10 2010 01:15 Myles wrote: TLO uses supply drop in builds a lot. I guess the extra 100 minerals instantly is better than 300 minerals over the next minute or so.
And why the hell does WhiteRa keep suiciding void rays?
He use the supply drop need the 100 mineral right but in long term, mule is better
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On July 10 2010 01:15 Myles wrote: And why the hell does WhiteRa keep suiciding void rays? White-ra said something about lag
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On forsti's stream whenever a battle starts the stream lags for me, lol.
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Whitera is wasting so many Void Ray .. :/
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not the best series but happy to see TLO win in such a dominant manner
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100 bucks White-Ra will destry TLO in rematch on eu server.
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The lag/delay in this match is proof that Terran is the new 1a2a3a race whereas Protoss actually needs good micro.
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i guess that lag was too much for white-ra. lots of micro problems 
hope to see a rematch
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great, the ONE time i couldn't watch a match TLO wins huge gz, must feel good after been so close to beat the mighty Ra so many times
Looking forward to your VODS HD
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Hmm.. a bit dissappointed with the series due to lag. Deffo should be a rematch when EU servers go up.
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Does anyone know if there will be VoDs of this match available somewhere?
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Ah, technical issues. It really feels like SC2 is back.
The first game was totally amazing. I feel like the match on DO was pretty even at the disconnect, but WhiteRa is a really good sport for giving TLO the win.
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On July 10 2010 01:23 Bio-Leera wrote: Does anyone know if there will be VoDs of this match available somewhere?
Either Forsti.henning's blip or hd's youtube i believe.
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That was kind of painful to watch...Whitera was way off on his micro most of the games due to lag I suppose. Not to mention the mothership rush on steppes, wtf? Wanna see a rematch on EU server cause that was pretty terrible -_-
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TLO seems so much better with zerg than with terran..
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What's up with the fast mothership build(game 2)
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Hey guys, so I have to get back to sleep, its 9am here, and I interrupted my REM at 8am to broadcast these. I should have these up later today - maybe around 12 hours?
Thanks and back to bed for me!
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On July 10 2010 01:23 Bio-Leera wrote: Does anyone know if there will be VoDs of this match available somewhere?
Forsti said on the stream that there will be tomorrow morning.
Must say I really like the guys english commentary even though his accent is pretty strong, but in my opinion thats what makes him so great!
Sad to see WhiteRa go down this way, but I'm happy for TLO, can't really say I'm was specificly rooting for either player seeing as both of them are my favorites.. so hard for me to cheer for!
Anyhow, hoping to see a rematch on european turf very soon and that forsti will stream it! ;D
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poor whitera. I really think TLO should have stuck to one race out of courtesy due to the lack of practice time given by blizzard. i hope to see a rematch in the next coming days.
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Rematch before beta ends on Eu-Server . We might see some other results.
I personally would have prefered a game on the Eu-servers on sunday. :o --> More practice for both --> better games.. No Lag ---> better games.
I as a Viewer win ^^
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On July 10 2010 01:23 LSGamer wrote: ...It's a bad day to be a white-ra fan
Can someone who's played P2 confirm if the pylon "AoE" is just a big circle of dots in all gfx qualities? It was for Forsti at low settings
Pylon is the same as phase 1 for me, so that must be the settings.
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On July 10 2010 01:25 ReachTheSky wrote: poor whitera. I really think TLO should have stuck to one race out of courtesy due to the lack of practice time given by blizzard. i hope to see a rematch in the next coming days.
yah because TLO could definitely train terran and zerg in the downtime
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On July 10 2010 01:25 ReachTheSky wrote: poor whitera. I really think TLO should have stuck to one race out of courtesy due to the lack of practice time given by blizzard. i hope to see a rematch in the next coming days.
As far as I know, TLO asks his opponents if they are fine with him switching races.
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HDStarcraft, are you also going to cast the White-Ra vs. Dimaga games that were played yesterday?
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On July 10 2010 01:25 ReachTheSky wrote: poor whitera. I really think TLO should have stuck to one race out of courtesy due to the lack of practice time given by blizzard. i hope to see a rematch in the next coming days. Try to think before you post please. If someone has practiced and you switch your race then it could hurt someone because he might have practiced one matchup but not the other. With no practice time on either side by default White-Ra will be equally prepared for every matchup.
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On July 10 2010 01:23 LSGamer wrote: ...It's a bad day to be a white-ra fan
Can someone who's played P2 confirm if the pylon "AoE" is just a big circle of dots in all gfx qualities? It was for Forsti at low settings
That is just on low.
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actually i didn't think of what i was saying as i was writing it haha TBO u have a good point ^^ The thought going on in my mind was mainly whitera training to vs t since tlo had declared that he was now a terran player.
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Will there be VoDs. If so, when and where Russian ones will be in white-ra.com I guess, but what about forsti's?
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First game was pretty great. The rest, not so much.
+ Show Spoiler +I dont really get why white-ra would try such fast mothership, especially on a map with short rush distance. And the 1-base colossi game was pretty bad as well, completely one sided, and I feel like 1-basing is getting out of date pretty quickly. Last game was just W-ra suiciding a bunch of VRs into mass marines. Its pretty funny how he released a replay pack where he does fast VR builds against almost every terran, if TLO watched any of those it wouldn't surprise me as he got a ton of rines in that game.
He did mention that he lagged pretty badly and couldn't control his units properly, and he did get a DC when their situations were fairly equal, it was at least not decided even if TLO might have had a slight advantage. Hopefully we see a rematch later, but I'm glad those games were played now as there isn't much else going on for us on the EU servers.
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where can I see this O_o, none of the links that has the streams work
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What are the final results?
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On July 10 2010 01:47 Merikh wrote:where can I see this O_o, none of the links that has the streams work 
Games are over, I'll try to update when replay pack/vods are out
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Disappointing series, but props to both players nonetheless.
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Hey guys, I really wish I could have cast this. Sadly I've been throwing up for the entire day so I wasn't quite up to it 
I hope it went well!
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That would have made an epic cast, in its own way.
Get better soon!
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Got the replay pack . Anyone can tell us when the vods will be released and where?
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I cannot read these replays with my SC2 manager. I remember having the same problem with the white-ra replay pack and someone did something with the names? and fixed them. Is this the same sort of deal?
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im glad i got to see how top players are thinking in the new patch. Wish the series could have been played on the euro server
+ Show Spoiler +any reason TLO didnt get conc shells in game 2 and 5...i do remember seeing a top-tier game from the asian server in late phase 1 where it was TvT or something and neither player got conc shells
was this just a mistake...or is it worth it to save that 50/50 for something else
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yes i'm having trouble loading replays as well. I put them in my sc2beta/replays/recent folder and they don't show up... plus i don't see any of my own replays in the folder even though i see them in the replay manager... is there a new place the beta saves replays? ....
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i've noticed when ra gets gas at 3min mark, he only puts 2 probes on gas until the 4th minute, THEN he puts on the 3rd probe... is this intentional?
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On July 10 2010 11:02 AncienTs wrote: i've noticed when ra gets gas at 3min mark, he only puts 2 probes on gas until the 4th minute, THEN he puts on the 3rd probe... is this intentional?
he probably doesnt need that much gas and needs more minerals instead for his build so i guess it would be intentional
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damn this is gonna be great
gogogogo white-ra =D
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I want rematch =) and rematch of the rematch. plz
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In game 3, when Ra disced, did he not have a clear lead over TLO? Atleast it felt TLO could do nothing with those mutas.
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On July 10 2010 18:06 HowardRoark wrote: In game 3, when Ra disced, did he not have a clear lead over TLO? Atleast it felt TLO could do nothing with those mutas.
I think, and I may be biased, that TLO could thwart White-ra expanding any further due to his map control. Also, as TLO could fight battles close to White-ra's base, he could easily rebuild an army before he was threatened.
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On July 10 2010 18:06 HowardRoark wrote: In game 3, when Ra disced, did he not have a clear lead over TLO? Atleast it felt TLO could do nothing with those mutas.
Muta harass doesn't HAVE to do anything like in SC:BW because there isn't an easy way to kill them like irradiate or archons. You can use them as a general unit to kill colossus but still have harassing/ground attack options instead of corruptors which are very specialised.
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On July 10 2010 18:06 HowardRoark wrote: In game 3, when Ra disced, did he not have a clear lead over TLO? Atleast it felt TLO could do nothing with those mutas.
Maybe for White-Ra that game was also laggy and because of that he gave a lead to TLO.
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On July 10 2010 16:20 ShloobeR wrote: Gogo SCL!!
Indeed Supcom-live!! its good you remind me of the very nice time we had as a team  Loui and you should play more sc2!
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TLO and SchoobeR :O
Good to see some other great FA players in this game.
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I'm a big fan of TLO (my favorite SC2 player). But as happy as I am to see him win, I'd like to have seen him play White-Ra at his best, as I am also a fan of White-Ra. Knowing how much of a factor lag played in these games makes me feel a bit disappointed. I am indeed hoping that they meet in another tournament in the future, and possibly play on the Europe servers with minimal lag. Other than that, I'm hoping to be able to download a replay soon to see what their builds are like.
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On July 10 2010 19:16 Liquid`TLO wrote:Indeed Supcom-live!! its good you remind me of the very nice time we had as a team  Loui and you should play more sc2! 
Haha, loving your signature. So appropriate to your playstyle (:
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Well done TLO. Believed all the way
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The match should be played when EU server is fine...Really i guess white-ra had more than 1-2 delay...
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White-Ra didn't seem like he cared very much about this match IMO. I can't blame him, it's a showmatch with no practice at all and no prizes, being played on a laggy server.
Seemed like he just wanted to get it over with. The Desert Oasis game TLO was ahead, but I don't think in a real money tournament that he would've received the win. The game wasn't over by any means.
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I love watching these players duke it out as much as the next nerd. However, this showmatch was pretty lackluster. Hoping for better in the future.
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Why did TLO skip the concussive shells upgrade in the games he played Terran?
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I thik that in the game 3 white ra actually was in a better shape after all theses zergling bust fails.
Few mutas vs stalkers - sentries isnt even close and ra had 3 collosus up.
I love tlo though as zerg hes prolly the most agressive player atm.
In game 4 , you can see what the increased zealot build time can do vs an agressive zerg player , toss simply cannot progres through his first base untill he gets some descent stalker sentry army cause links outmassing zealot by a lot.
but in anyway it was too late after that and tlo had 3 bases vs 1 plus a bad push from ra.
I think lag is an exsuse than a real factor .
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On July 11 2010 13:06 Ryalnos wrote: Why did TLO skip the concussive shells upgrade in the games he played Terran?
He just forgot to research it.
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On July 11 2010 17:59 TBO wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2010 13:06 Ryalnos wrote: Why did TLO skip the concussive shells upgrade in the games he played Terran? He just forgot to research it. I figured as much, but was assuming the best of him =).
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On July 10 2010 21:31 Forsti.henning wrote:http://forsti-stream.de/topic/301finally im okay with the quality. have fun, write feedback, please turn down the volume, i converted them a little too loud...
Thanks, I really enjoyed them as I missed the live games due to work.
I was glad to see TLO win this one, mainly because it sets it up for an even more intense follow up. too bad about the lag, hopefully things clear up for the next match,
My favorite thing about TLO is that as amazing a player as he is you can actually see his game improving. He was known for tricky plays but now we are seeing him dominate even when going standard build by just straight up out playing opponents.
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