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tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
June 01 2010 13:41 GMT
#2801
WW! Unlucky by Cool to have to rematch, but wp by Dimaga in the rematch.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
June 01 2010 13:41 GMT
#2802
On June 01 2010 22:35 ilbh wrote:
cheating in the past? do you mean the win-trading? I really don't think he would propositally disconnect, cause its an instant loss. cool was manner and didn't take it


Actually admins forced a re-game on him. He said he had it 100% won and that he did not want a rematch unless I saw the in-game chat wrong.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:42:48
June 01 2010 13:41 GMT
#2803
On June 01 2010 22:35 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 22:34 Wargizmo wrote:

I hope cool wins now, great sportsmanship from him. As for the disc, highly suspicious - especially given Dimaga's record of cheating in the past.

Dimaga cheated ?

Abused in the TSL ladder stages, many consider that to be a less of a crime than using hacks but it obviously still shows that he is capable of doing "shady" stuff.
Actually admins forced a re-game on him. He said he had it 100% won and that he did not want a rematch unless I saw the in-game chat wrong.

He was given the chance to regame with completely same build orders pretty much giving him a free win. He either was super mannerful for declining or thought that Dimaga somehow could figure out a way to beat the situation.
Nafaltar
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany302 Posts
June 01 2010 13:43 GMT
#2804
Also ladder stages =/= being 1 loss away from being bumped down from a 1st place payout.
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
June 01 2010 13:44 GMT
#2805
On June 01 2010 22:39 HCastorp wrote:
Show nested quote +
I hope cool wins now, great sportsmanship from him



Show nested quote +
Cool doesn't care about $$$ - guy is a real class.


I don't know. I don't think any standard of sportsmanship could possibly expect someone to give up an advantage like that - there is nothing even slightly unfair remaking with same BOs, if anything I feel it would give Dimaga a small edge, just because I feel it would be easier psychologically knowing what is coming even if you couldn't react the way you wanted.

I guess I just want to push back against the idea - which of course was not explicitly in your posts - that accepting the re-game with same BOs could ever be considered BM or bad sportsmanship.


cool had 90% of chances of winning, same BO wouldn't change anything since he didn't have pool ready for spine crawlers anyway... how can it be BM from him??

btw, what is that WW all about? is this some kind of an offensive GG?
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:45:53
June 01 2010 13:45 GMT
#2806
Best scenario is Cool getting a laggy D/C when Dimaga has an advantage in a deciding Game 7 and Dimaga taking a rematch with different build orders! There's a really small chance of this happening but plz Gods of SC make it happen !!!
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
June 01 2010 13:45 GMT
#2807
No, I think Cool told Dimaga to not use the same builds because his hand was already shown. Anyway, Dimaga played the same build nevertheless (until he scouted the 12pool rather than 7/8pool).
Betrayed by EG.BuK
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
June 01 2010 13:45 GMT
#2808
I think it's all about korean mentality. They won't argue with admins asking for a win after a disconnect, even if they think it was a "100% win". They're just very mannered, but I'm sure Cool has no more respect for Dimaga after that game ... Dimaga should have accepted the lose.
Puosu
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
7015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:47:21
June 01 2010 13:45 GMT
#2809
On June 01 2010 22:44 ilbh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2010 22:39 HCastorp wrote:
I hope cool wins now, great sportsmanship from him



Cool doesn't care about $$$ - guy is a real class.


I don't know. I don't think any standard of sportsmanship could possibly expect someone to give up an advantage like that - there is nothing even slightly unfair remaking with same BOs, if anything I feel it would give Dimaga a small edge, just because I feel it would be easier psychologically knowing what is coming even if you couldn't react the way you wanted.

I guess I just want to push back against the idea - which of course was not explicitly in your posts - that accepting the re-game with same BOs could ever be considered BM or bad sportsmanship.


cool had 90% of chances of winning, same BO wouldn't change anything since he didn't have pool ready for spine crawlers anyway... how can it be BM from him??

btw, what is that WW all about? is this some kind of an offensive GG?

Pressing WW on korean keyboard with the korean settings on results in korean letters that sound like "gg". It is standard practice for Koreans to use ww instead of gg. It was often done in televized games before KESPA made gg the one and only way to officially lose a game.

So nope, not bm. Rather just something he has grown used to doing while playing with other Koreans
rhap
Profile Joined April 2010
Brazil136 Posts
June 01 2010 13:47 GMT
#2810
On June 01 2010 22:45 cyclone25 wrote:
I think it's all about korean mentality. They won't argue with admins asking for a win after a disconnect, even if they think it was a "100% win". They're just very mannered, but I'm sure Cool has no more respect for Dimaga after that game ... Dimaga should have accepted the lose.

DIMAGA wouldn't accept a lose when both players were in their bases at 2:30 lol. He had a higher chance to lose, but I'm pretty sure no one would give up a tourney because of a disconnect at the beginning of the game.
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:49:38
June 01 2010 13:49 GMT
#2811
Also this version of battle net is wors than previous. I never had a DC for a month before this Bnet 2.0 and now I get them pretty often God if only they decide to make Lan for SC II it would only boost the popularity of SC II with loss of some $$$ for Blizz but come on they can get $$$ from their "Cash Cow" - World of Warcraft.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
HCastorp
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States388 Posts
June 01 2010 13:49 GMT
#2812
I think you misunderstood my post or it wasn't clear - I was trying to argue *against* the idea that Cool accepting the regame with same BOs could be considered BM. Its obviously up to him what kind of regame he wants. If I were him I'd be pissed that there was a regame at all.
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
June 01 2010 13:51 GMT
#2813
What's the prize for this cup? It doesn't say in the OP.
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
June 01 2010 13:52 GMT
#2814
On June 01 2010 22:51 scottyyy wrote:
What's the prize for this cup? It doesn't say in the OP.


10 million Won Prize pool, that 's about 6800 euro.

Over 3k euro for champ.
Hazard
Profile Joined September 2009
Norway594 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-01 13:54:27
June 01 2010 13:53 GMT
#2815
nvmd.

Wow that's a big prize pool.
"Member of Hyuk Hyuk Hyuk Cafe! He's the next Jaedong, baby!"
hydraden
Profile Joined April 2010
United States719 Posts
June 01 2010 13:53 GMT
#2816
On June 01 2010 22:53 Hazard wrote:
Think 1st place is gonna get ~1500 Euro and total prize pool is like 3 500 Euros.


3500 euros should be just for first place.
sputnik.theory
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Poland449 Posts
June 01 2010 13:54 GMT
#2817
On June 01 2010 22:49 HCastorp wrote:
I think you misunderstood my post or it wasn't clear - I was trying to argue *against* the idea that Cool accepting the regame with same BOs could be considered BM. Its obviously up to him what kind of regame he wants. If I were him I'd be pissed that there was a regame at all.


Yeah, I'd be so pissed that my 7 pool didn't give me a free win.
“On the night of the murder I was at home, asleep. The characters in my dream can vouch for me.”
Pebble
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany326 Posts
June 01 2010 13:55 GMT
#2818
This baneling shitness is soo boring to watch ... -.-
3:50 PM jaedung: scouting is useless in sc2
Prodtoss
Profile Joined May 2010
China849 Posts
June 01 2010 13:55 GMT
#2819
FE V FE GOGO!! for the champion
epik640x
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1134 Posts
June 01 2010 13:56 GMT
#2820
lol dimaga...
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