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NukemDukem
Profile Joined April 2010
United States133 Posts
May 05 2010 00:52 GMT
#3421
On May 05 2010 09:20 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
Show nested quote +
Note: These are the dates participants are expected to play their games by. Livestreams and the release of VODs/results ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND MAY TAKE CONSIDERABLY LONGER THAN THE PREVIOUSLY LISTED DATES.


We are working on getting these out as quickly as we can folks. It happens to take a lot of work and we also have lives outside the HDH.

We are continuing ahead as planned (we are not behind schedule) and will post more information here when we have it .


Husky Its your Birthday Go Out! Have HD buy you a nice cold one
Always strive for last place. its in the Bible. The last show be first
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 01:16:11
May 05 2010 01:12 GMT
#3422
As I said earlier in this thread, Husky and HD are doing a poor job at running this event (they can't handle it only by themselves): so many delays, stream issues, poor game knowledge during casts, people spoiling results ... and what for? To see some games that are not even streamed live with alot of people raging about lag issues. Yeah they could see them later (talking about days here) on youtube, but there were alot of issues too, that made the wait even longer.
And Husky ... you keep posting that you have a "personal life outside SC" and it's a main reason why games are not live or the replay casts are delayed so much. This isn't an excuse ... you should have been aware of it when you decided to host this tournament helped by HD only.
Look at the other tournaments, that are streamed live (instead of "no hype replays")... where are all the issues you have?

I know I'll get hated cuz I said all that, but like it or not, is the truth.
I mean thanks for hosting the tournament, but I'm not sure viewers are really enjoying it, and it's your fault ... Look at the posts in this thread: most of them are people asking about dates (match dates, stream dates, youtube video dates), or complaints to stream issues and recently spoiled results.
Wargizmo
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia1237 Posts
May 05 2010 01:22 GMT
#3423
On May 05 2010 10:12 cyclone25 wrote:
As I said earlier in this thread, Husky and HD are doing a poor job at running this event (they can't handle it only by themselves): so many delays, stream issues, poor game knowledge during casts, people spoiling results ... and what for? To see some games that are not even streamed live with alot of people raging about lag issues. Yeah they could see them later (talking about days here) on youtube, but there were alot of issues too, that made the wait even longer.
And Husky ... you keep posting that you have a "personal life outside SC" and it's a main reason why games are not live or the replay casts are delayed so much. This isn't an excuse ... you should have been aware of it when you decided to host this tournament helped by HD only.
Look at the other tournaments, that are streamed live (instead of "no hype replays")... where are all these issues you have?

I know I'll get hated cuz I said all that, but like it or not, it's the truth.
I mean thanks for hosting the tournament, but I'm not sure viewers are really enjoying it, and it's your fault ... Look at the posts in this thread: most of them are people asking about dates (match dates, stream dates, youtube video dates), or complaints to stream issues and recently spoiled results.



Cut them some slack, it's their first tournament and they're doing it for free. Constructive criticism is fine, but everything you've said they already know and are working to fix. If you think they're overwhelmed why not offer to help them instead of throwing peanuts from the gallery.

Also they've already addressed why they can't do live casts so stop beating that dead horse.

Information is not knowledge. Knowledge is not wisdom. Wisdom is not truth. Truth is not beauty. Beauty is not love. Love is not music. Music is best. - Frank Zappa
fantomex
Profile Joined June 2009
United States313 Posts
May 05 2010 01:23 GMT
#3424
Reading all the bitching in this thread makes me think we need an EJ-clone for SC2 where we can heavily moderate the asshats.

172 pages, about 130 pages of that is people asking questions that could be answered by reading the first post.
Replay or GTFO
SentrySteve
Profile Joined March 2010
United States71 Posts
May 05 2010 01:25 GMT
#3425
On May 05 2010 10:12 cyclone25 wrote:I know I'll get hated cuz I said all that, but like it or not, is the truth.
I mean thanks for hosting the tournament, but I'm not sure viewers are really enjoying it, and it's your fault ... Look at the posts in this thread: most of them are people asking about dates (match dates, stream dates, youtube video dates), or complaints to stream issues and recently spoiled results.


I'm not saying you're wrong, but if people are asking about dates that means they're looking forward to the games so you can't say people aren't enjoying it, or at least finding some value in it. It is a lot of work, both Husky and HD are extremely new at this and it shows.

I feel like they bit off more than they can chew and it's pretty obvious they're trying to become well known casters for SC2. Like you, I think their cast quality is poor as their game knowledge just isn't there and they don't have much to offer as commentators. I feel as if both Husky and HD would benefit from doing what Tasteless is doing by playing random and learning high level play. They may lack the skill/time to get to that high level and therein lies the problem.

I'm sure their Youtube viewers can't really tell the difference and it's not like they're doing a horrible job.
See.Blue
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2673 Posts
May 05 2010 01:27 GMT
#3426
On May 05 2010 10:12 cyclone25 wrote:
As I said earlier in this thread, Husky and HD are doing a poor job at running this event (they can't handle it only by themselves): so many delays, stream issues, poor game knowledge during casts, people spoiling results ... and what for? To see some games that are not even streamed live with alot of people raging about lag issues. Yeah they could see them later (talking about days here) on youtube, but there were alot of issues too, that made the wait even longer.
And Husky ... you keep posting that you have a "personal life outside SC" and it's a main reason why games are not live or the replay casts are delayed so much. This isn't an excuse ... you should have been aware of it when you decided to host this tournament helped by HD only.
Look at the other tournaments, that are streamed live (instead of "no hype replays")... where are all the issues you have?

I know I'll get hated cuz I said all that, but like it or not, is the truth.
I mean thanks for hosting the tournament, but I'm not sure viewers are really enjoying it, and it's your fault ... Look at the posts in this thread: most of them are people asking about dates (match dates, stream dates, youtube video dates), or complaints to stream issues and recently spoiled results.


You really whine a lot. Go outside. Maybe get a "personal life outside SC." Irrespective of whether or not the tournament is being run poorly, you're just criticizing something people worked hard for (and even donated their money for) that you pay nothing to benefit from. Your criticism is not even constructive. You're not going to get hated 'cuz you said all that,' it's because you're not contributing and don't have the courtesy to keep your bitching to yourself. Because that's what it is, bitching. 'Like it or not, is the truth.'
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
May 05 2010 01:32 GMT
#3427
I'm not sure why people say we are in over our heads when we're actually following the schedule exactly as it was posted since day one ^^.

We now have our next set of Livestream dates!

Friday, May 7th @ 1PM PST.
Saturday, May 8th @ 1PM PST.

We will be casting 2 sets each day!

Look forward to seeing you there.
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
cyclone25
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Romania3344 Posts
May 05 2010 01:41 GMT
#3428
On May 05 2010 10:32 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'm not sure why people say we are in over our heads when we're actually following the schedule exactly as it was posted since day one ^^.

We now have our next set of Livestream dates!

Friday, May 7th @ 1PM PST.
Saturday, May 8th @ 1PM PST.

We will be casting 2 sets each day!

Look forward to seeing you there.


Because people check the OP which says:
When
Round of 8 - Best of 3 (April 28th - May 4th)


I think viewers are more interested in stream schedule, rather than match dates, since they can't see them live anyway.
As for Sea.Blue ... seriously dude, you replied every single post I made so far. Give me a break please.
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 05 2010 01:43 GMT
#3429
On May 05 2010 10:27 See.Blue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 10:12 cyclone25 wrote:
As I said earlier in this thread, Husky and HD are doing a poor job at running this event (they can't handle it only by themselves): so many delays, stream issues, poor game knowledge during casts, people spoiling results ... and what for? To see some games that are not even streamed live with alot of people raging about lag issues. Yeah they could see them later (talking about days here) on youtube, but there were alot of issues too, that made the wait even longer.
And Husky ... you keep posting that you have a "personal life outside SC" and it's a main reason why games are not live or the replay casts are delayed so much. This isn't an excuse ... you should have been aware of it when you decided to host this tournament helped by HD only.
Look at the other tournaments, that are streamed live (instead of "no hype replays")... where are all the issues you have?

I know I'll get hated cuz I said all that, but like it or not, is the truth.
I mean thanks for hosting the tournament, but I'm not sure viewers are really enjoying it, and it's your fault ... Look at the posts in this thread: most of them are people asking about dates (match dates, stream dates, youtube video dates), or complaints to stream issues and recently spoiled results.


You really whine a lot. Go outside. Maybe get a "personal life outside SC." Irrespective of whether or not the tournament is being run poorly, you're just criticizing something people worked hard for (and even donated their money for) that you pay nothing to benefit from. Your criticism is not even constructive. You're not going to get hated 'cuz you said all that,' it's because you're not contributing and don't have the courtesy to keep your bitching to yourself. Because that's what it is, bitching. 'Like it or not, is the truth.'

oh shut up.
Noone is stopping you from leaving positive comments or arguing that you prefer watching replays and buggy streams over watching games live, but you simply never ever ever should go on an assumption that if someone is doing something they are above all criticism.
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Sfydjklm
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States9218 Posts
May 05 2010 01:49 GMT
#3430
Criticism is a good thing, I do with people would be less offensive and personal about it, but thats human nature and i mean you just gotta learn to deal with it if you want success in public eye=)
On May 05 2010 10:32 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'm not sure why people say we are in over our heads when we're actually following the schedule exactly as it was posted since day one ^^.

We now have our next set of Livestream dates!

Friday, May 7th @ 1PM PST.
Saturday, May 8th @ 1PM PST.

We will be casting 2 sets each day!

Look forward to seeing you there.

see I asked to split broadcasts into smaller casts because the have been getting visibly tired after monstrous cast-sessions and here it is.
So they listen and there is progress. So just be patient!
twitter.com/therealdhalism | "Trying out Z = lots of losses vs inferior players until you figure out how to do it well (if it even works)."- Liquid'Tyler
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
May 05 2010 01:51 GMT
#3431
Where do i actually find brackets for this tournament, the image on the first page has yet to be updated???
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
HDstarcraft
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States577 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 01:55:26
May 05 2010 01:54 GMT
#3432
On May 05 2010 10:41 cyclone25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2010 10:32 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
I'm not sure why people say we are in over our heads when we're actually following the schedule exactly as it was posted since day one ^^.

We now have our next set of Livestream dates!

Friday, May 7th @ 1PM PST.
Saturday, May 8th @ 1PM PST.

We will be casting 2 sets each day!

Look forward to seeing you there.


Because people check the OP which says:
When
Round of 8 - Best of 3 (April 28th - May 4th)


I think viewers are more interested in stream schedule, rather than match dates, since they can't see them live anyway.


April 21st - May 11th

Round of 16 - Best of 3 (April 21st - 27th)
Round of 8 - Best of 3 (April 28th - May 4th)
Round of 4 - Best of 5 (To Be Announced)
Third Place - Best of 5 (To Be Announced)
FINALS - Round of 7 (To Be Announced)

Note: These are the dates participants are expected to play their games by. Livestreams and the release of VODs/results ARE SUBJECT TO CHANGE AND MAY TAKE CONSIDERABLY LONGER THAN THE PREVIOUSLY LISTED DATES.

Please check the LiveStream section for more information.

Like Husky said, we are right on schedule
YouTube.com/HDstarcraft
Husky
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3362 Posts
May 05 2010 02:02 GMT
#3433
With players getting ready for the round of 4 it is now time we post the map pool for the Round of 4 and the 3rd place match! This is the maps and order they will be played in (players do not choose!)

1) Kulas Ravine
2) Scrap Station
3) Metalopolis
4) Steppes of War
5) Lost Temple

Good luck!
Commentaries: youtube.com/HuskyStarcraft
TitleRug
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States651 Posts
May 05 2010 02:21 GMT
#3434
On May 05 2010 11:02 HuskyTheHusky wrote:
With players getting ready for the round of 4 it is now time we post the map pool for the Round of 4 and the 3rd place match! This is the maps and order they will be played in (players do not choose!)

1) Kulas Ravine
2) Scrap Station
3) Metalopolis
4) Steppes of War
5) Lost Temple

Good luck!


awesome!
coLCruncher fighting!
Heosat
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Australia481 Posts
May 05 2010 02:32 GMT
#3435
On May 05 2010 10:12 cyclone25 wrote:
As I said earlier in this thread, Husky and HD are doing a poor job at running this event (they can't handle it only by themselves): so many delays, stream issues, poor game knowledge during casts, people spoiling results


As I'm the tournament sponsor I'd just like to add one thing to this thread:

Husky & HD have been doing an excellent job so far and I don't feel they have let myself or any of their viewers down with the coverage of this tournament. They have learned a lot and this new knowledge will be invaluable to future events that they hold.
Liquid ftw!
Horse != player. I'm from TLAF.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-05-05 02:42:07
May 05 2010 02:41 GMT
#3436
Heo, not saying anything to the contrary but as the tournament sponsor you are hardly likely to say anything different
Adonai bless
gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
May 05 2010 02:43 GMT
#3437
On May 05 2010 10:51 Senx wrote:
Where do i actually find brackets for this tournament, the image on the first page has yet to be updated???

it's under RESULTS spoiler
zealing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada806 Posts
May 05 2010 03:06 GMT
#3438
are all the replays going to be released at the end of the tourney?
Think you got lag? It took Jesus 3 days to respawn.
Brocksampson
Profile Joined March 2010
United States4 Posts
May 05 2010 03:29 GMT
#3439
Good tourny so far, cant wait for the next rounds.

Still watching your channels.
Today you are no longer butterflies, YOU ARE MURDERFLIES
sly_pariah
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3 Posts
May 05 2010 03:44 GMT
#3440
You guys are doing a great job - really anticipating the next round of matches, will be watching the live streams!
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