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On April 07 2010 01:48 Hege5487019 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 01:38 IdrA wrote:On April 07 2010 01:30 Fayth wrote:
whatever you said doesn't matter, you are playing with other people's money, we're just backing you up, you know Idra, being nice and saying thanks could work no, i flat out said that im not playing with other peoples money. i did not ask you or anyone else to back me and told smuft he could find people himself if he wanted to put more money on it. as far as im concerned its a 500$ match and whatever you do is your own business. Are you stupid, its a $5000 match because thats the minimum bet. Its effectively a $500 game for you because thats all youll be putting in and thats all you could potentially gain. But I'm not sure why youre not acknowledging that you have backers, its not like you would owe them anything if you lost. Stop being dumb.
He only agreed to a $500 showmatch... and thats all he's playing like. I don't see that he owes any of the people backing him any favours at all. They are just betting on him like he was a horse... so they shouldn't be granted any special access especially if it will violate the rules that both players agreed to.
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man Idra's parents failed hard when they raised him, anyway, good luck
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On April 07 2010 01:53 meeple wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 01:48 Hege5487019 wrote:On April 07 2010 01:38 IdrA wrote:On April 07 2010 01:30 Fayth wrote:
whatever you said doesn't matter, you are playing with other people's money, we're just backing you up, you know Idra, being nice and saying thanks could work no, i flat out said that im not playing with other peoples money. i did not ask you or anyone else to back me and told smuft he could find people himself if he wanted to put more money on it. as far as im concerned its a 500$ match and whatever you do is your own business. Are you stupid, its a $5000 match because thats the minimum bet. Its effectively a $500 game for you because thats all youll be putting in and thats all you could potentially gain. But I'm not sure why youre not acknowledging that you have backers, its not like you would owe them anything if you lost. Stop being dumb. He only agreed to a $500 showmatch... and thats all he's playing like. I don't see that he owes any of the people backing him any favours at all. They are just betting on him like he was a horse... so they shouldn't be granted any special access especially if it will violate the rules that both players agreed to.
its not like that, without us he wouldnt be able to play his 500$, we are allowing this to happen, that's all, I'd figure he'd be thankful for that, but hell why would I expect any manners from IdrA
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why dont have 3rd party observe ( Chill ) and after game is done give the replay to someone like day9 to cast
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On April 07 2010 02:03 StarcraftMaster wrote:
why dont have 3rd party observe ( Chill ) and after game is done give the replay to someone like day9 to cast
I am sure a lot of the casters will download the replays and release their cast of the games.
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yes but replays wont be out till there done ;(
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On April 07 2010 01:48 Hege5487019 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 01:38 IdrA wrote:On April 07 2010 01:30 Fayth wrote:
whatever you said doesn't matter, you are playing with other people's money, we're just backing you up, you know Idra, being nice and saying thanks could work no, i flat out said that im not playing with other peoples money. i did not ask you or anyone else to back me and told smuft he could find people himself if he wanted to put more money on it. as far as im concerned its a 500$ match and whatever you do is your own business. Are you stupid, its a $5000 match because thats the minimum bet. Its effectively a $500 game for you because thats all youll be putting in and thats all you could potentially gain. But I'm not sure why youre not acknowledging that you have backers, its not like you would owe them anything if you lost. Stop being dumb.
You guys seriously haven't been following this thread? This is a GRUDGE match. Idra is not going to be nice (if he ever is) to the people who he's GRUDGING against. Fayth is in this, if I'm not mistaken, for the lulz and also to contribute to the community (props to Fayth for that). But you can't expect Idra to care about that since he's not playing for the community, he's playing for his nerd honor and if people didn't back him for $5k, he'd just assume Smuft dodged and that he won by default.
Having said that, Smuft asked for no observers. Since he's putting in $5k of his own money, I think he should decide.
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yeah I'll let smuft decide, it's not like IdrA can be scared of cheating going on, cuz if idra lose, we lose our money
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On April 07 2010 01:29 Fayth wrote:
I think people backing IdrA should be able to obs, we all put in twice as much money IdrA puts in lol
dude no obs is absolutely reasonable considering how many players have complained of obs lag in important matches.
Maybe something like Day[9] private cast for you 4 that later will be released to general public is a bit more sensible.
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United States1967 Posts
On April 07 2010 02:16 Fayth wrote:
yeah I'll let smuft decide, it's not like IdrA can be scared of cheating going on, cuz if idra lose, we lose our money
$1k might be worth it for you to see Idra lose though, seems like it's win/win situation for you... I'm joking of course... or am I.... 
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heh well I don't recall ever lagging when I obsed a game, except the 1st game of smuft's tourney where Heaven was trying to cast but failed and thus was lagging game out by alt tabbing
mez doesn't lag either, lag usually involves streaming
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On April 07 2010 02:20 TheMango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 02:16 Fayth wrote:
yeah I'll let smuft decide, it's not like IdrA can be scared of cheating going on, cuz if idra lose, we lose our money $1k might be worth it for you to see Idra lose though, seems like it's win/win situation for you... I'm joking of course... or am I....
I'm not that nuts lol, I still know what you can do with 1000$, so I'd rather win 1k than lose it to see IdrA rage
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United States1967 Posts
On April 07 2010 02:23 Fayth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 02:20 TheMango wrote:On April 07 2010 02:16 Fayth wrote:
yeah I'll let smuft decide, it's not like IdrA can be scared of cheating going on, cuz if idra lose, we lose our money $1k might be worth it for you to see Idra lose though, seems like it's win/win situation for you... I'm joking of course... or am I.... I'm not that nuts lol, I still know what you can do with 1000$, so I'd rather win 1k than lose it to see IdrA rage
Theoretically, one could easily make a deal with the other player to offset your 1k bet :p Im not really serious and dont think anyone would actually do it in this case, but since its a possibility, best to keep it obs free so that there can be no excuses of lag, cheating/collusion, etc.
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wat do you mean make a deal to offset my 1k bet, how so? I don't understand
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On April 07 2010 02:22 Fayth wrote:
heh well I don't recall ever lagging when I obsed a game, except the 1st game of smuft's tourney where Heaven was trying to cast but failed and thus was lagging game out by alt tabbing
mez doesn't lag either, lag usually involves streaming
yea you're right Day "i'm slowing down the game" Nine isnt the best example perhaps
But there are plenty of casters with lagless track record.
All i'm saying is Idra is still playing for a lot of his own money, and he knows, and i know, and everybody else knows that a small lag spike can easily send him into a fit of rage.
Give the kid a break eh.
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On April 07 2010 02:28 Fayth wrote:
wat do you mean make a deal to offset my 1k bet, how so? I don't understand
$2000 on smuft to win. :D
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On April 07 2010 01:52 IdrA wrote:
? i was responding to his post that acted like he deserved something for putting in money. and no, its not a 5000$ match. i agreed to a 500$ match, and if you want to go by total money riding on it theres alot more than that because the betting didnt stop when people hit smuft's 5k.
In a way they are doing you a favor, you want this match to happen so you can beat Smuft and double your money. Smuft is only playing with a $5000 MINIMUM. This match wouldn't even happen if these backers hadn't put their own money so YOU could meet that minimum. They contributed money so you could ALL potentially gain, not just them, so they are doing you favor because without them this match wouldnt even happen.
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United States1967 Posts
On April 07 2010 02:28 Fayth wrote:
wat do you mean make a deal to offset my 1k bet, how so? I don't understand
Assuming you get to obs, could easily feed information to other player, and make a deal to get x$ if they win, thus offsetting or even making money off your original bet of $1k. Again, not saying anyone here would do such a thing, but just the possibility of it should be taken into consideration when this much pride/$$ is on the line.
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On April 07 2010 02:31 Kralic wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2010 02:28 Fayth wrote:
wat do you mean make a deal to offset my 1k bet, how so? I don't understand $2000 on smuft to win. :D
oh you mean I would bet 2000$ on smuft myself? lolol
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Braavos36401 Posts
On April 07 2010 01:57 Fayth wrote:
man Idra's parents failed hard when they raised him, anyway, good luck
Okay, I've tolerated a good amount of trash talk in this thread, mainly from Idra and Smuft because they are in a grudge match and a certain amount of back-and-forth rope is allowable.
But you are a third party who is simply betting on it. You were even warned, via a long MSN conversation with me, about how you would improve your posting and wouldn't act like a douche on the forums. You and Idra clearly don't like each other, but you guys (both) acting like douches is not productive for this forum.
Idra gets 1 week you get 30 days given your history and the prior warning. Cheers.
edit: I appreciate the entertainment value of this match so for its sake, so the rest Idra's ban will be served at a later date (2 days now).
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