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alpenrahm Germany617 Posts June 21 2022 15:50 GMT #1 Hi generous people, drop.sc <--- replay The game is a CC first --> 3 rax marine vs a 3 hatch ling bane Zerg Nothing much happens in the early game and I make to 1-1 with stim combat and medis to the midgame. Supply is still evenish with a slight advantage for zerg, but I have a double upgrade lead. And then I just get outplayed. Don't have my tanks in the right spots and take way too much damage from ling runbies, try to fight back for mapcontrol but don't manage to get any eco dmg done. We trade a bunch of armies, and eventually I can't keep up anymore. It was a struggle. Things I plan to correct in my play here - put a F**** tank in the 3rd base. - consistently rally units to the natural ramp to prevent the stupidest of runbies. - macro cleaner ... - use more drops to stretch the zerg out. - make it to the lategame and put myself in a position where I can afford to switch into ghosts or whatever Any advice on what I should focus my efforts on would be appreciated edit: and another replaydrop.sc

zatic Zurich14816 Posts June 22 2022 07:13 GMT #2 Honestly I would recommend adopting a proper build, or at least optimizing the one you came up with. You go CC first into 3 rax, but then you don't use the 3 rax, go shields before stim, (no scout), double bunker into double ebay into 3rd CC. This is all over the place. You could go standard 1 rax reaper into 3CC (or any other standard build) and have the same, or even better outcome with better eco. Just look at 5 minutes: You have 10 marines, stim isn't even started yet, starport half finished, your natural has 10 SCV. With a standard 2-1-1 you could have 16 marines 2 medivacs with stim and a saturated natural. The only reason you are not terribly behind after 6 minutes is because the Zerg doesn't spend their larvae. Had you gone a 2-1-1 with just somewhat clean execution, the Zerg would have straight up died to your 16 marines. Even at 7min you could have just stimmed in and ended the game since the Z at this point had 3(!) roaches and 3 larvae against 31 marines. But you don't know that because of zero scouting. You haven't even seen the Z 3rd yet. After you missed that window the Zerg eco kicks in. Mind you you are still somewhat even with the Z - but you could be way ahead at this point or rather have won the game already. All the things you pointed out are good improvements. But none of them will help you if you are behind from the start because of a poor early game. I suggest you adopt a proper build, for example 2-1-1. Aim for 16 marines 2 medivacs with stim at the Z 3rd by minute 5. Even if you are a little late, you will straight up kill Zergs like the ones you played against. Once you have the early game down at least somewhat, work on things like rally points, drops, clearing creep, etc.

dragoon United States695 Posts June 27 2022 20:19 GMT #3 sharp timings steal a build from a pro, run it vs AI till you can hit w teh same scv count, units, upgrades, at the same time. you will dominate zergs

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