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[L][D] Formation of sixty, eighty four.

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neomahakala108
Profile Joined July 2014
Poland13 Posts
August 04 2014 10:29 GMT
#1
it's abstract strategy part, but perhaps has use in SC2.

it's discussion about how to compose numbers of units.

Form & Formation of 6 is very important, it can be spread into 2 * 3 or 3 * 2. there's the difference between triad of units cooperating and pair cooperating. this forms basis for subtle differencies between cooperation of pair of triads or triad of pairs, for example in how they can be split to perform how many tasks at once and of what type. Formation of 6 can reform between 2 * 3 and 3 * 2 fluidly, if unit is prepared, i think.

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i think it's another very important number when Forms & Formations are considered.

60 + 84 = 144 = 12 * 12 = 3 * 4 * 3 * 4 = 3 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 2 * 2 = 36 * 4 = 36 * (3 + 1) = 36 * 3 + 36 = 108 + 36 = 108 + 3 * 12 ...

these numbers can translate to forces that form a larger force, for example 108 + 3 * 12 can mean the Task Force of 108 units, with 3 reserve forces of 12 units (operational, all of them).

how to transform such numbers in this system?

in many ways, but i'd rely mostly on shortest, quickest, most secure of moves (Martial Arts Philosophy).

i'd spread these forces into 3's and 2's then use these groups to form larger numbers.

it's based around quality of 108 number that's composed of 3's and 2's (triads & pairs).

108 = 1^1 * 2^2 * 3^3.

also:

108 = 36 * 3 = 6 * 6 * 3. i'd call it FormTri108, a very important Form, and core of Formational Strategy.

and:

108 = 27 * 4 = 33 * 22. i'd call it FormQuad108, also the very important Form.

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but still 108 is Most Beautiful.


108 + 108 + 84 = 300 = 144 + 144 + 12 ...

that's how these forces can be transformed from a Form to a Form.... 108 + 108 + 84 can be joined into 300, then spread into 144 + 144 + 12, for example.
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watchlulu
Profile Joined February 2013
Germany475 Posts
August 04 2014 10:41 GMT
#2
To much maths for me at TL in the past couple of days, i don't really understand what you want to say to me sorry.
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vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
August 04 2014 10:45 GMT
#3
This guy is the number-version of Deepak Chopra:
http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/
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neomahakala108
Profile Joined July 2014
Poland13 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-04 11:14:53
August 04 2014 10:46 GMT
#4
most important is:

number of 6 units is very important, it can be spread into 2 * 3 or 3 * 2. there's the difference between triad of units cooperating and pair cooperating. this forms basis for subtle differencies between cooperation of pair of triads or triad of pairs, for example in how they can be split to perform how many tasks at once and of what type.

12 units as well, as i can judge from my games.

this boils down to using pairs & triads, and investigating what can do combinations of these numbers of units, of varying type. for example - 2x2 units of zealot type can protect that ramp, perhaps.

many can assume that 6 number is superior because of that and it's true.

can it be countered easily with 7?

yes... but second wave of 2-3 can strenghten it... so we retreat to reinforcements and press on with attack.

in my opinion most effective unit numbers are: 2, 3 then also 4, 6, 8, 9, 10, 12 and so on...
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nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15845 Posts
August 04 2014 11:10 GMT
#5
You did not take into account that different units have different supply cost.
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neomahakala108
Profile Joined July 2014
Poland13 Posts
August 04 2014 11:16 GMT
#6
@nojok: yes, it's only part of abstract strategy, not SC2 strategy in itself... and it's optimized for keybindings/macro keyboards etc.. not for producing amounts/timing.

just a beginning of thought process.
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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
August 04 2014 14:20 GMT
#7
On August 04 2014 19:29 neomahakala108 wrote:
60 + 84 = 144 = 12 * 12 = 3 * 4 * 3 * 4 = 3 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 2 * 2 = 36 * 4 = 36 * (3 + 1) = 36 * 3 + 36 = 108 + 36 = 108 + 3 * 12 ...


On August 04 2014 19:29 neomahakala108 wrote:
Martial Arts Philosophy



On August 04 2014 19:29 neomahakala108 wrote:

but still 108 is Most Beautiful.


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