i need advices how to deal vs gay protoss who going to prism DT and then insta-switch to colossi or HTs (i once played vs dude who went both. so i've came to him, saw 1 colossi(not illusion) and 3 sentries, denied his thrid and then BAM - when i've come with next attack he had 2 colossies and 4 full mp HTs)
i now able to deal vs DTs, but after that i have no idea what to do
2 base replay: http://drop.sc/361711
but often when i come to toss i see 1 colossi and 3rd on the way.
srsly is this strat so good or im doing something TERRIBLY wrong?

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Everlong

Czech Republic1973 Posts

October 08 2013 10:56 GMT

To deal with gay protoss, I'd recommend buying chastity belt. You will thank me later..

Dan26

Australia239 Posts

October 08 2013 11:24 GMT

On October 08 2013 19:56 Everlong wrote:
To deal with gay protoss, I'd recommend buying chastity belt. You will thank me later..

^^Lol... admin didn't remove this post? I'm surprised.

The manner in which the OP has been typed, you'd think a 10 year old mashed his face on a keyboard...

OneSpeed

Norway47 Posts

October 08 2013 11:29 GMT

On October 08 2013 20:24 Dan26 wrote:

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^^Lol... admin didn't remove this post? I'm surprised.

The manner in which the OP has been typed, you'd think a 10 year old mashed his face on a keyboard...

You make yourself look way better, no? /sighface

Slydie

1923 Posts

October 08 2013 15:16 GMT

2-3 turrets vs the dt, which will be late, and you should get ahead as his AOE will be delayed as well. It is a very strong build though, and hard to scout. I think the key is to keep calm and macro during the DT harass, but im no expert at that. If you poke early and see very few gas units, it probably means hard greedy teching.

never_Nal

Costa Rica676 Posts

October 08 2013 16:45 GMT

You need to learn the protoss timings, If I recall correctly FASTEST Dt Drop can hit your base at 7 22. and fastest DT is around 7 min mark, so you need to time your engineering bay for this. There is also the reason why Terran opens for Reaper, the scouting information in this Match up is vital.

Things you should be looking for:

Amount of Gas Mined
Fast Expand
Pylons
Units
This part I think is way complicated to understand easily, Day9 in his initial TvP dailys said that protoss units are way to expensive always on 1 side, Minerals or Gas. Bunch of Stalkers could mean delayed Tech/Gates, since every Stalkers is high on Minerals, if the protoss player uses hi minerals for Buildings, he probably will warp in Sentries, that cost only 50 minerals

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In TvP to stay alive you need to learn how and what to scout. try analyzing Taeja's decisions, pause the game and ask yourself what did Taeja saw that triggered certain decisions or movements, I guarantee you will find some sort of Pattern and learn why Taeja adds Starports/Barracks/Ghost Academy even before the spectator can see what style the Protoss will play

. or pay a coach to tell you all those things :D

Fen1kz

Russian Federation216 Posts

October 10 2013 14:01 GMT

My main question is what to do after u defended from DT.
Usually its this situation:
You defend from DT, protoss already have colossi-DT tech and 3rd on the way, and i dont know what to do.

DinoMight

United States3725 Posts

October 10 2013 14:24 GMT

On October 08 2013 18:40 Fen1kz wrote:
i need advices how to deal vs gay protoss who going to prism DT and then insta-switch to colossi or HTs (i once played vs dude who went both. so i've came to him, saw 1 colossi(not illusion) and 3 sentries, denied his thrid and then BAM - when i've come with next attack he had 2 colossies and 4 full mp HTs)
i now able to deal vs DTs, but after that i have no idea what to do
2 base replay: http://drop.sc/361711
but often when i come to toss i see 1 colossi and 3rd on the way.
srsly is this strat so good or im doing something TERRIBLY wrong?

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First of all, fix your attitude. I do that strategy sometimes. If defended properly and if the Protoss doesn't have good multitasking, the Protoss is way behind. So it's just another strategy you need to learn to defend.

The earliest a WP DT drop can hit (realistically by anyone you will play on ladder) is around 7:25. To hit this early timing, the Protoss will have AT MOST 1 mothership core and 1 Stalker. It's just not possible to do it that fast with other units.

This means your Reaper should be able to get a full scout off (unless he proxied the DT shrine somewhere, but then the lack of units should be a giveaway). When you begin suspecting something cheeky, start saving your scans.

What you need to do when the DT drops hit is use the scans to force the DTs to run away while you build your turrets. Build one in each mineral line and 1 near your barracks. Don't use the scans to chase and try to kill the DT. You will run out of scans, he will dodge them, and then kill everything.

TLDR Just scout better camp by your building turrets and scan everytime he comes close, but don't chase too far.

DinoMight

United States3725 Posts

October 10 2013 14:26 GMT

On October 10 2013 23:01 Fen1kz wrote:
My main question is what to do after u defended from DT.
Usually its this situation:
You defend from DT, protoss already have colossi-DT tech and 3rd on the way, and i dont know what to do.

If you defended properly, you should be way ahead economically and can continue to play the game as normal. If he already has Colossus and a 3rd, then you didn't do a good enough job defending/macroing.

It's very important to see which tech path he choses when going DT. I usually transition to Templar because I already have the Twilight out and started mining lots of gas early. Either way, SCOUT and react accordingly. Colossus -> Vikings and Templar -> Ghosts obviously.

If he is taking an early 3rd off of this DT harass, he will be spread pretty thin. You shuld try to drop his main and attack his 3rd/natural (depending on the map).