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EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 03 2013 01:02 GMT
#21
On October 03 2013 09:40 FuriousKobu wrote:
Set 1 and 3, Dear open DTs, really good games.
http://www.gomtv.net/2013wcs3/vod/80867


Thanks a lot man, added to the OP! Those were some of the most beautiful PvP games I've seen. Dear came so prepared to dominate. :D
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
gobbledydook
Profile Joined October 2012
Australia2605 Posts
October 03 2013 01:58 GMT
#22
in the DT rush opening, there is no mention of when to get warpgate. Do you get it before or after twilight council?
I am a dirty Protoss bullshit abuser
vhapter
Profile Joined May 2010
Brazil677 Posts
October 03 2013 02:52 GMT
#23
Oh shit, I've been quoted. Now my post looks blue! lol

On October 03 2013 10:58 gobbledydook wrote:
in the DT rush opening, there is no mention of when to get warpgate. Do you get it before or after twilight council?


You're getting 6 probes on gas very early, so you're supposed to start about everything at the same time (twilight + msc + wg). If you're going for the fast dt version, building your twilight council is still the first you should do, even if you have money for everything.

You can also get 16 probes on minerals before getting a msc (extra minerals ftw). The only different this makes is that you have to buy about 20 seconds to cast photon overcharge against a 10 gate or something, which is just a matter of keeping your msc away from stalkers. But if you want 100 energy on your msc asap for some reason or more time to scout around your base with your msc - which I personally find unnecessary, at least currently -, then obviously you should get your msc right away.
To live is to fight, to fight is to live!
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 03 2013 11:37 GMT
#24
On October 03 2013 10:58 gobbledydook wrote:
in the DT rush opening, there is no mention of when to get warpgate. Do you get it before or after twilight council?


My bad, fixed. If it's ever not mentioned in a build order, it's generally started at the same time as the MSC.
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
.kv
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-03 20:50:09
October 03 2013 20:49 GMT
#25
Your Dear vs. Trap Game 1 Twitch Link is Game 2
EsportsJohn
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States4883 Posts
October 03 2013 23:01 GMT
#26
On October 04 2013 05:49 .kv wrote:
Your Dear vs. Trap Game 1 Twitch Link is Game 2


Thank you, it's unbelievably hard to sort through Twitch's videos because of how they're arranged :/. Fixed now!
StrategyAllyssa Grey <3<3
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