[D] TvT forGGeddon strategy (45 wins 3 losses) - Page 5

govie

9334 Posts

July 29 2013 17:12 GMT

#81

On July 30 2013 01:56 Smackzilla wrote:
@Govie
How/when/where are you scouting the 2nd CC?

As stated im not good enough to get most out of unitcomp, so i scv-scout. Not that it gives alot of info, but i do it.. im sorry. its just that im not a nextterranbonja.. just a amove kinda noob, so i need some sort of scouting right? I go slow.. slow for oldies

teuthida

United States104 Posts

July 29 2013 18:14 GMT

#82

Using this build, I've been scanning around 5:30 - 6 min (I think, before my port is done anyway). If I see their tech is faster than mine (faster port or whatever) I pull my forces into the main and prepare for drops, and get viking instead of medivac. If I see banshee tech, I throw down an engy and turrets. I haven't had any real troubles with banshees using this build. The tank push / tank drops can be a pain though. As govie said, make good use of your raven, it can be really strong in the early game.

I was SCV scouting for a while but I find usually it is just walled off and impossible to tell if they are 1-base attacking or expanding in their main, so now I just scan instead.

wRitheSC2

United States2 Posts

August 04 2013 17:11 GMT

#83

It was amazing to see forgg break a contain and destroy strelok with it. So, I adopted the build, and it was pretty amazing. Plus it was a really fun midgame transition. But the build kept failing in weird ways. Probably because it is so gimmicky.

In this first replay, I easily defend the reaper harass, and do some economic damage to his nat, but then he continuously rallies bio to my base and after a really frustrating back and forth, takes me out.

http://drop.sc/352214

In this second replay, the build shows it's weakness in defending cloaked banshees, since it came out before the buff.

http://drop.sc/352213

In the third replay, I modify the build to try and get a raven out quicker. I guess this puts me behind a little though, and even though I kill a bunch of his scvs with a runby, my bad macro means I don't have enought to defend his response push (though I probably could have done a better job of it).

http://drop.sc/352212

So, any comments? Is there something I should be doing to make it work, or should I just switch to a different build? BF hellions seem so much fun and a nice break from hellbat-tank monotony.

doktorLucifer

United States855 Posts

August 07 2013 06:48 GMT

#84

On July 30 2013 03:14 teuthida wrote:
Using this build, I've been scanning around 5:30 - 6 min (I think, before my port is done anyway). If I see their tech is faster than mine (faster port or whatever) I pull my forces into the main and prepare for drops, and get viking instead of medivac. If I see banshee tech, I throw down an engy and turrets. I haven't had any real troubles with banshees using this build. The tank push / tank drops can be a pain though. As govie said, make good use of your raven, it can be really strong in the early game.

I was SCV scouting for a while but I find usually it is just walled off and impossible to tell if they are 1-base attacking or expanding in their main, so now I just scan instead.

I'm not sure if I should still SCV scout. On one hand, it helps me play greedier (low ground CC if I see marine first, high ground if reaper first) and by counting gas, I can determine if they are playing a mirror build or not.

If it's a mirror build (at least, if it's 15 gas) I have to determine what he does after his CC. I played a barcode who was playing random, and all he did was mass hellion marine and even got an extra rax (or was it a fac? can't remember, this game was a few days ago) and just facerolled me.

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